22,795 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

I have never grown any, but have observed several climbing hybrid teas and other climbing sports of modern bush roses.. The general view is that most do not repeat as well as the better climbers and should be expected to give little or no repeat bloom. A further drawback that some have is blooming on long, 2-foot laterals that are good for cutting but look awkward on a climber. I hope someone can give information about the varieties you mention.

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vasue VA(7A Charlottesville)

Haven't grown the climbing sports of Blue Girl or Tiffany - though I'd like to. Do grow Talisman, Climbing, the Western Rose Company 1930 sport of the HT. The current one's from Angel Gardens & only 2 years old. A previous one from Rogue Valley some years back perished from unintentional neglect when it was young & I was ill, but its beauty & fragrance prompted me to replace it. This one's given 2 flushes already this season at only 3' tall, so quite promising. http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.22066&tab=1

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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Same here as altorama. Lots of little sprouts, easy to pull up, that must have escaped from someone else's garden. They are a minor pain, but don't threaten anything. I have LOTS worse things to deal with. Like 101 today when things were starting to look a little better. Phooey. However in Jackie's case the year round mild climate may have created a mint monster (plus being ignored for years helped, too.) Diane

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Turtleturtlemeow(USDA zone 9b; Sunset Zone 13)

The mint is more than a foot tall in the rosebush and the temp is typically 107 in the afternoon. Today it was only 100 because it rained last night and it is cloudy. We ignore ours as well, except for mowing it with the grass.

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HiRoses are doing well and the young deer are fearless.
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kittymoonbeam

Are you out of room yet or are you going to order more roses this winter?

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deervssteve(9)

I've got the room not so much the time and with the water rationing, maybe the following season. Everything is doing well so no replacements.

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James_Shaw_San Francisco Bay Area

Thanks for the kind comments everyone. Holly, I just went outside to check scent and didn't smell all that much. If OR means own roots then no, mine is grafted. I posted an earlier photo of Mohave and was told the colors reminded her of a desert sunset when there is smoke in the air. I think that a neat description. Again, thanks everyone.

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roseseek(9)

Beautiful, James! It looks like a catalog photo from sixty years ago!

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jasminerose4u, California 9b

I don't think mmjau's rose looks like Burgundy Iceberg. The form is different.

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susan4952(5)

I think it's intrigue but I was shot down. Lol

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Cool experiment!

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countrygirl_sc, Upstate SC(7a)

I got 13 in the little bucket on the front porch yesterday. LOL! I haven't checked the others today.

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msdorkgirl(11)

Your leaves do look healthy, by the height it looks like own root? It looks like a mini rose but pictures are sometimes deceiving.

Prune to the next five leaflet and wait 6-8 weeks for its next flush (or 3-4 weeks if it is a mini)!

Good luck!

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bart_2015

I'd think that it is working on growing roots ,and therefore can't afford to spend much energy on producing good blooms. The leaves look fine; I'd say give it time. I bet next year it will be consistently pleasing.

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Poorbutroserich Susan Nashville

Ok thanks Ann. These are softwood cuttings. There is one plant that has leaves unlike others but this is my first rodeo at cuttings. The mother plant has not shown any signs. I will post a photo soon. What I see may be entirely normal. I hope you know what a help your knowledge and willingness to share is for all of us. I'm truly grateful!

Susan

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stillanntn6b

Thank you for the kind words. This is something we learn by sharing.

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altorama(5/6 MA)

It could be reblooming, just in between flushes right now.

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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

A lot of climbers don't rebloom until they get to a certain height. Three feet isn't nearly tall enough.

If it still doesn't rebloom five years from now, there may be a problem. Before that, it is probably just getting established.

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enchantedrosez6a

Kate your 'Eden' is stunning. I bought her own root from Heirloom last year. She survived the winter pretty much unscathed but only had one flower this year. But I've read that she's a bit stingy at first so I'm willing to be patient with her since her flowers are so gorgeous and she has been disease free.

I also have Clair Matin and Compassion. Both are own root from last year. Compassion died back to the ground and seems to be putting all her energy into growing canes this year since she only flowered once so far, but I'm hoping some of the new growth has buds hidden within :). I hope she'll get more cane hardy with age since her flowers are gorgeous and have such a nice scent and she has hardly any thorns so perfect for an entrance arbor. Clair Matin was very winter hardy with little cane damage and is on her second flush while being grown in partial sun so not the best conditions. She is very healthy so far, the flowers are a beautiful soft peachy rose with dark buds, are bumble bee magnets and have a wonderful soft scent. Overall I'm very happy with her.

New this year are Kordes 'Rosanna', 'Golden Gate' and 'Moonlight'. So far 'Rosanna' is growing the best and is now setting buds. 'Moonlight' and 'Golden Gate' don't seem very vigorous and have not flowered but they were both pretty small when I got them so I'm learning patience. These are all own root as well and none are sprayed for disease or insects.

Sharon

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Sara-Ann Z6B OK

Kate, your Eden is gorgeous! Ive always thought that it is such a beautiful rose!

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bart_2015

Thank you!!!

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Or you can do it right after you comment on a thread. Submit your answer than go back to rose main page. Go to the thread again and at the bottom of thread you will now be able to deactivate the email.

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

One more comment, is that cane receives sunlight and those bottom leaves don't start green up more than that fast. I personally would not wait long to remove the cane. No I don't run around my yard starring at all the red growth. Almost all of my roses have red new growth some vary dark red. I do thou notice one that has to many red leaves on a cane and will make a note to watch for it to begin to green up. Why think about taking off a healthy cane when I know it's growing fast and the leaves haven't had a chance to green up yet. I won't but I won't wait to long because I have 100 others roses to protect. Better to lose a cane than the whole bush. Having lost many roses to rrd sometimes I go with my gut instincts.

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Poorbutroserich Susan Nashville

I hear ya Patti! I took out the cane. Healthy new growth or not. After the Clair Matin experience it's just not worth waiting. Not at this time anyway.

For me, removing a cane is far better than removing a bush!

Just something weird about it. Doesn't mean it's RRD.

Susan

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Beth zone 8a Dallas, TX

Thanks irisgal. When my granddaughter was two she watched a video over and over and over and.....well you get the idea, that was titled Rascal the Rabbit. She'd come into the den and ask to watch Wascal Wabbit so anytime I think of rabbits I think of her talking before she could say her Rs.

The rabbit hasn't been back and I haven't seen anymore symptoms of him eating my roses so I'm hopeful he moved on across the field into someone else's yard.

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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

I have a really polite rabbit that lives in my extremely old/big boxwoods behind my front and side rose gardens right by the house. He rarely eats any roses or their leaves at all! It's very nice of him/her :) I do have a bunch of clover and violets right nearby, so maybe rabbits prefer those for salads?

His cousins in other parts of the yard, however, are not so nice to the small roses. Has anyone ever tried Tobasco sauce? I have one poor rose that gets eaten down to twigs every single spring!

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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

@Rosecanadian...lol. Whether we plan to or not, we will always buy more roses. Having said that, the JB are relentless this year in my garden. Nasty things, just wouldn't go away. That will definitely put my rose expansion on a hold.

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Ninkasi(6-7 Germany)

White, ivory, cream and then apricot. I also love the softest shell pinks, like sdlm or new dawn. But I am also drawn to very dark colors too, like Tuscany superb or night owl. I like a bit of contrast.

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kittymoonbeam

What you need is a baby shower with compost and liquid kelp, etc. as gifts. Welcome rose babies!

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titian1 10b Sydney

Impressive - lovely colour/s.

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