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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

one other thing i dont see mentioned ...

NEVER water in the evening.. by spraying down the plant ...

molds/mildews/etc.. thrive in the dark.. at night. when it balmy ... and wetting the leaves.. just encourages them ...

it is the sole reason i bought and use a breaker bar.. otherwise known as a watering wand ...

roses are one of the few plants.. where you must water the soil .. not the plant ... which can be problematic ... if you have a sprinkler system ...

also .. consider getting a more carefree variety ... i gave up on roses ... because of all the feeding.. spraying.. etc ... many are just too foo.. as in foo foo ...

ken

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 8:04AM
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agardenstateof_mind

Just getting back to GardenWeb after a long distraction.

If that 3-in-1 product contains imidacloprid, just be aware that that chemical is suspected of causing the decline of honey bees and several of our native bees, particularly bumble bees. The insecticide is systemic - taken up into the plant tissues - and often present in the pollen and nectar, delivering a sub-lethal dose to the foraging insect, which transports it back to the nest or hive where it is fed to the developing larvae or stored for future use.

To choose the best roses for your region, check to see if your local or state Rose Society has a list of such roses. Ours has their list of recommended roses and "no-spray" roses on their web site.

Roses are more vigorous than most people give them credit for. Do your best to meet their cultural requirements for best results. I focus on adding plenty of organic matter (compost) to my sandy soil to improve soil structure, water retention, fertility and biological activity and I feed the roses well, but never after Labor Day, as they need to stop pushing new growth that won't have time to harden off before frost.

If you are going to start any kind of spray or soil drench regimen, it is important to follow the directions as to rates and timing - you cannot let up or you give the fungus a window of opportunity to infect your plants.

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 11:05PM
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reemcook(8a PNW)

The shipping costs to PNW is high. I don't blame the sellers (they have to charge the buyer the price mandated by postal carriers).
I wish postal carriers would give small businesses a break with the shipping charges. It would really help the buyer and the seller.

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 5:57PM
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TNY78(7a-East TN)

That's how I always feel when I order from sellers on the West Coast. :( I guess you have to weigh how much you want the item, verses the cost of shipping. Most of the time I just grin and bare it!

Tammy

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 10:36PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Oh, I didn't realize you had amended the topsoil so well already. So you only need be concerned about the subsoil. If you judge it is too bad for roots to penetrate at all, then amending it might help your roses during the California dry season.

I would treat the topsoil and subsoil separately rather than mixing them. Remove the topsoil from the rose holes, reserve it in a pile, and use a pick to break up the subsoil into chunks. Add some manure and compost and a cup or two of gypsum and mix a bit. Then replace the topsoil so it is uniform across the bed. This is the old technique called "double digging."

I would till the Turface into the topsoil of the whole bed. Again, it is best if the soil is fairly uniform across the area.

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 3:20PM
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andreark

I (with a lot of help) will do as you suggest.

I just picked up my 7 new beauties at Regan's. The first were purchased from a friend...NOT A GOOD IDEA. The first 6 looked like weeds compared to these.

I also purchased a good (I think) pair of garden shears, ARS brand. I hope this is a good selection.

I will send photos as soon as all roses are in place.

And thank you all once again.

andrea

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 8:19PM
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Campanula UK Z8

yep, absolutely, turnbuckles - we call them straining wires and they are essential to avoid the saggy wire look and can be tightened as the wires will be ductile and stretch a bit over time.

I have spent too much time prising plant material off splintered timber trellis to want to take that route again - whereas a quick snip with wire cutters - sorted......and the whole horizontal support can be restrung with new (and cheap) wire.

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 5:41PM
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deervssteve(9)

My Galway Bay was planted against the brick wall on the front of my house. I had used concrete nails and twine to train it.
Now it is about 8 feet tall in front of the wall with most growth away from the wall. I gave up trying to force it.

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 6:22PM
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stevegjohns

Well, I do have a big, white-flower bush just to the left. Looks promising. Thank you!

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 4:09PM
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seil zone 6b MI

The brown, crispy looking edges are due to the thrips. The fading wouldn't be. That may just be the variety of rose it is or it could be due to your current weather conditions.

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 5:07PM
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susan4952(5)

Looks a bit like my Paradise.

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 2:55PM
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Tuggy3(9b NorCal)

I looked up Paradise and the colors do look very very similar. The reverse color doesn't seem to creep up over the front of the petals. Could be though.

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 5:02PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Knockouts here in our town are just now starting to bloom...
Maybe give it alittle more time...

But a photo like roseseek said would help a lot in case something else is wrong....

This post was edited by jim1961 on Mon, Jun 3, 13 at 23:16

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 10:54PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I'm sitting here wondering if your roses ever bloomed yet?
And please include a pic if you can as Roseseek mentioned if they haven't bloomed yet...

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 3:54PM
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ms. violet grey

Thanks for the pruning tip!

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 5:17PM
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Jim_in_AV

He's a pic of my Charlie (from Hortico), planted in mid-December. Probably too early to say but I think he'll be a favorite next year.

This post was edited by Jim_in_AV on Wed, Jun 5, 13 at 14:54

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 2:48PM
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kentucky_rose zone 6

I live in Lexington, KY. In the past 2 weeks I've seen RRD in 2 other gardens. Last year I lost Pat's Choice to RRD and another garden had it on Chris Everett. Thanks for posting the update.

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 2:40PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Fragrance? Is it body-bagged from a big-box store or was it from a garden center with a weeks or star tag?

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 11:02AM
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Tuggy3(9b NorCal)

Here's today's pic of the leaves, etc. Sorry for the double posting. I purchased it online bareroot at Garden Valley Ranch and their website is closed this time of year so I can't look at their offerings. It had a white nursery tag that said Kardinal.

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 2:10PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Yup. Ground-Cover = FLOP. Meant to lie on the ground as a carpet of roses.

Jeri

    Bookmark     May 20, 2013 at 8:00PM
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dog_wood_2010(7)

Roses need 6-8 hours of sun per day. Not enough sun will cause your rose to strain for the sun and flop over. Also, too much nitrogen will cause roses to flop vs phosphorous and potassium.

    Bookmark     June 5, 2013 at 11:33AM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

My secret to digging holes....add water, come back the next day and dig some more...add more water.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 10:51PM
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Zyperiris(Seattle)

I agree with Kippy but I would put Gypsum in the hole..it breaks down hard soil.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 11:54PM
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Zyperiris(Seattle)

I am posting again about this rose. It does have a slight fragrance. It is so spectacular. The color is just delicious.

    Bookmark     July 11, 2012 at 1:11PM
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Zyperiris(Seattle)

Well here we are two years later..This rose has more blooms on it this year than ever before!

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 11:51PM
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debandroses

Thanks for the pic advice. I will try that. The rose is climbing America.

deb

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 8:40AM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Wow, that is a beautiful picture, what a pretty rose. I've had a Cl. America for several years that hardly blooms, but it has more this year than it ever has. Would like to see some more pictures of your roses.

    Bookmark     June 4, 2013 at 6:57PM
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