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Knockouts here in our town are just now starting to bloom...
Maybe give it alittle more time...
But a photo like roseseek said would help a lot in case something else is wrong....
This post was edited by jim1961 on Mon, Jun 3, 13 at 23:16


Here's today's pic of the leaves, etc. Sorry for the double posting. I purchased it online bareroot at Garden Valley Ranch and their website is closed this time of year so I can't look at their offerings. It had a white nursery tag that said Kardinal.






If it was a body bagged rose, there is a liklihood of it being a rose that is not named - just a rose that was bagged up and given a name. Usually not the correct one. I bought some beautiful potted roses from Walmart a few years ago, was excited to get roses like New Year, Old Timer, cant recall the rest. I put them in a great raised bed, coddled them all winter and when spring came - they were all the same orangish colored rose and were most certainly not what they were supposed to be. Worse......even with the best of care, they all sickened and died. That did it for me on the bagged or potted roses from stores like Walmart. What a waste of time. My guess would be its an unknown, unamed rose and unless some more knowledgable than me can come up with a name - I would just enjoy it and not worry about a name. Hope I am wrong and it can be identified - but I have become suspicious of bagged/potted roses from box stores since my experience. Good luck!

Thanks, guys!
Good information, Cynthia!
Alameda -- I had no idea that there were just random roses out there, I thought they were all something named (possibly mislabeled, but still named) unless you were growing from hips/seeds yourself.
This is only my second year growing and I kind of threw together this bed with body bags from Lowe's and online orders from Heirloom and Rogue Valley so I'm hoping I didn't mix anything up although I'm pretty sure that the Gene Boerner was a bagged one.
Anyone grow Carefree Beauty or Neon Lights or do you all think this one is just an unnamed mass produced one?

Moles loosen the dirt, disturbing the roots. They eat earthworms, NOT plants. Gophers eat the roots of the plants. I've never had gophers eat the entire plant. If the WHOLE plant is gone, someone stole it.
Get out your hose. Turn it on high. Begin poking it into the mounds of soil you find to see if the water flushes the plug out of a tunnel. If it suddenly finds the tunnel and the water flushes into the soil, you have gophers. Mole tunnels run just under the surface. Gopher can tunnel many feet down. If you have pocket gophers, you CAN flush them out with the water. I have stomped three this way in the past two months and literally drown one with the hose four days ago. The one I found eating a perennial (whose name will not come to mind) in the highest front raised planter night before last, I flooded and couldn't catch him. I took the dogs out and in the front lights I could see the plant shake. It's at eye level from the house level. I grabbed the flash light and hose and easily found his tunnels but not him. Dangit!
I have tried EVERY trap known for gophers and none work well with these. Ours are smaller than the usual, not even the mole traps work. They just tunnel around them. Cooke's Gopher Bait (poisonous) works well and I use it where I know the Toy Fox Terrors won't be able to get to it or the carcasses. Otherwise, I flush their poop and lots of water down the tunnels until they either stop activity in the area or I continue working with the hose until I can find and stomp or drown the critters. If you do actually get him, put his carcass back in the hole and leave it. Not only do they make great fertilizer, other gophers stay away from the decomposing animal until it is fully gone. Good luck. You may need it. Kim

There's not enough water in the world to flood the gopher tunnels here. The warren of tunnels extends all over the hillside. Maybe all of Camarillo . . .
I have found that gopher holes DO make a great place to put dog poop. And it DOES seem to drive them away from that area. Katie has a real talent for digging them up and killing them, but it does play h*ll with the "lawn."
We have a new vermin-control device here lately, however. It seems to be effective on gophers, rats, and squirrels . . . NESTING HAWKS. I sort of wish we could keep them here ALL the time.
BTW -- this is why we do not use poison on vermin. I don't mind if a gopher dies in agony, but I don't want to chance harming the hawks.
Jeri


Hi Mark
Roses Unlimited (rosesunlimitedownroot.com) has both Christian Dior and Livin' Easy listed. I don't think you'll find all three from the same vendor - I got my Singin' in the Rain from Rogue Valley. Both are great companies, and Roses Unlimited has large gallon pot roses that will settle in well even relatively late in the year as now. Given that you're in Iowa, it's definitely rose planting season, and the extra size is a boost toward winter survival. The postage isn't too bad from Roses Unlimited for you being on the edge of the Mississippi.
Cynthia


Thanks everybody.
Yes it is all roses but the program only gives you limited plants to work with in the trial version so I had to use begonias to represent white roses LOL.
We are still a ways off before being able to plant. We will put the buxus in the ground in November and I think the roses will go in the following autumn. Currently we are working on clearing the land. We dug out 6 tree stumps from that tiny front yard LOL. Someone also thought it would be a good idea to dump a ton of rocks into the ground and then cover it up with dirt making it impossible to put a shovel in the ground. So now that the tree stumps are out we are taking the rocks out one by one. Its tedious!
The buxus is ridiculously expensive to buy in the size I actually want them to be in so I will be buying smaller versions and give them a chance to grow before I plant the roses. The difference in price by doing this is immense. If I bought them in the size I want them to be it would cost 1800 Euro (roughly 2100 dollars) but If I buy them in smaller sizes it will only cost around 640 Euro (roughly 800 dollars)
Anyways glad you guys liked my design. The original design had the buxus in an octagon shape in the center and the four corner boxes had an angular row (see picture) this really limited the walking space but looked nice. I still havent sold my husband on the new design yet lol but i'll talk him into it unless he manages to talk me out of this one.









yep, absolutely, turnbuckles - we call them straining wires and they are essential to avoid the saggy wire look and can be tightened as the wires will be ductile and stretch a bit over time.
I have spent too much time prising plant material off splintered timber trellis to want to take that route again - whereas a quick snip with wire cutters - sorted......and the whole horizontal support can be restrung with new (and cheap) wire.
My Galway Bay was planted against the brick wall on the front of my house. I had used concrete nails and twine to train it.
Now it is about 8 feet tall in front of the wall with most growth away from the wall. I gave up trying to force it.