22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

yep, absolutely, turnbuckles - we call them straining wires and they are essential to avoid the saggy wire look and can be tightened as the wires will be ductile and stretch a bit over time.

I have spent too much time prising plant material off splintered timber trellis to want to take that route again - whereas a quick snip with wire cutters - sorted......and the whole horizontal support can be restrung with new (and cheap) wire.

My Galway Bay was planted against the brick wall on the front of my house. I had used concrete nails and twine to train it.
Now it is about 8 feet tall in front of the wall with most growth away from the wall. I gave up trying to force it.

Well, I do have a big, white-flower bush just to the left. Looks promising. Thank you!

The brown, crispy looking edges are due to the thrips. The fading wouldn't be. That may just be the variety of rose it is or it could be due to your current weather conditions.

Knockouts here in our town are just now starting to bloom...
Maybe give it alittle more time...

But a photo like roseseek said would help a lot in case something else is wrong....

This post was edited by jim1961 on Mon, Jun 3, 13 at 23:16

I'm sitting here wondering if your roses ever bloomed yet?
And please include a pic if you can as Roseseek mentioned if they haven't bloomed yet...

Thanks for the pruning tip!

He's a pic of my Charlie (from Hortico), planted in mid-December. Probably too early to say but I think he'll be a favorite next year.

This post was edited by Jim_in_AV on Wed, Jun 5, 13 at 14:54

Fragrance? Is it body-bagged from a big-box store or was it from a garden center with a weeks or star tag?

Here's today's pic of the leaves, etc. Sorry for the double posting. I purchased it online bareroot at Garden Valley Ranch and their website is closed this time of year so I can't look at their offerings. It had a white nursery tag that said Kardinal.

Yup. Ground-Cover = FLOP. Meant to lie on the ground as a carpet of roses.

Jeri

Roses need 6-8 hours of sun per day. Not enough sun will cause your rose to strain for the sun and flop over. Also, too much nitrogen will cause roses to flop vs phosphorous and potassium.

My secret to digging holes....add water, come back the next day and dig some more...add more water.

I agree with Kippy but I would put Gypsum in the hole..it breaks down hard soil.

I am posting again about this rose. It does have a slight fragrance. It is so spectacular. The color is just delicious.

Well here we are two years later..This rose has more blooms on it this year than ever before!

Thanks for the pic advice. I will try that. The rose is climbing America.

deb

Wow, that is a beautiful picture, what a pretty rose. I've had a Cl. America for several years that hardly blooms, but it has more this year than it ever has. Would like to see some more pictures of your roses.

If it was a body bagged rose, there is a liklihood of it being a rose that is not named - just a rose that was bagged up and given a name. Usually not the correct one. I bought some beautiful potted roses from Walmart a few years ago, was excited to get roses like New Year, Old Timer, cant recall the rest. I put them in a great raised bed, coddled them all winter and when spring came - they were all the same orangish colored rose and were most certainly not what they were supposed to be. Worse......even with the best of care, they all sickened and died. That did it for me on the bagged or potted roses from stores like Walmart. What a waste of time. My guess would be its an unknown, unamed rose and unless some more knowledgable than me can come up with a name - I would just enjoy it and not worry about a name. Hope I am wrong and it can be identified - but I have become suspicious of bagged/potted roses from box stores since my experience. Good luck!

Thanks, guys!

Good information, Cynthia!

Alameda -- I had no idea that there were just random roses out there, I thought they were all something named (possibly mislabeled, but still named) unless you were growing from hips/seeds yourself.

This is only my second year growing and I kind of threw together this bed with body bags from Lowe's and online orders from Heirloom and Rogue Valley so I'm hoping I didn't mix anything up although I'm pretty sure that the Gene Boerner was a bagged one.

Anyone grow Carefree Beauty or Neon Lights or do you all think this one is just an unnamed mass produced one?

Moles loosen the dirt, disturbing the roots. They eat earthworms, NOT plants. Gophers eat the roots of the plants. I've never had gophers eat the entire plant. If the WHOLE plant is gone, someone stole it.

Get out your hose. Turn it on high. Begin poking it into the mounds of soil you find to see if the water flushes the plug out of a tunnel. If it suddenly finds the tunnel and the water flushes into the soil, you have gophers. Mole tunnels run just under the surface. Gopher can tunnel many feet down. If you have pocket gophers, you CAN flush them out with the water. I have stomped three this way in the past two months and literally drown one with the hose four days ago. The one I found eating a perennial (whose name will not come to mind) in the highest front raised planter night before last, I flooded and couldn't catch him. I took the dogs out and in the front lights I could see the plant shake. It's at eye level from the house level. I grabbed the flash light and hose and easily found his tunnels but not him. Dangit!

I have tried EVERY trap known for gophers and none work well with these. Ours are smaller than the usual, not even the mole traps work. They just tunnel around them. Cooke's Gopher Bait (poisonous) works well and I use it where I know the Toy Fox Terrors won't be able to get to it or the carcasses. Otherwise, I flush their poop and lots of water down the tunnels until they either stop activity in the area or I continue working with the hose until I can find and stomp or drown the critters. If you do actually get him, put his carcass back in the hole and leave it. Not only do they make great fertilizer, other gophers stay away from the decomposing animal until it is fully gone. Good luck. You may need it. Kim

There's not enough water in the world to flood the gopher tunnels here. The warren of tunnels extends all over the hillside. Maybe all of Camarillo . . .

I have found that gopher holes DO make a great place to put dog poop. And it DOES seem to drive them away from that area. Katie has a real talent for digging them up and killing them, but it does play h*ll with the "lawn."

We have a new vermin-control device here lately, however. It seems to be effective on gophers, rats, and squirrels . . . NESTING HAWKS. I sort of wish we could keep them here ALL the time.

BTW -- this is why we do not use poison on vermin. I don't mind if a gopher dies in agony, but I don't want to chance harming the hawks.

Jeri

Rogue Valley shows Singin' in the Rain on their list. It would be own root.

It is too late to order bare roots. Most of the bare root vendors will open for ordering again in September.

Hi Mark

Roses Unlimited (rosesunlimitedownroot.com) has both Christian Dior and Livin' Easy listed. I don't think you'll find all three from the same vendor - I got my Singin' in the Rain from Rogue Valley. Both are great companies, and Roses Unlimited has large gallon pot roses that will settle in well even relatively late in the year as now. Given that you're in Iowa, it's definitely rose planting season, and the extra size is a boost toward winter survival. The postage isn't too bad from Roses Unlimited for you being on the edge of the Mississippi.

Cynthia

That will look wonderful! Looking forward to seeing the in ground photos.

Thanks everybody.

Yes it is all roses but the program only gives you limited plants to work with in the trial version so I had to use begonias to represent white roses LOL.

We are still a ways off before being able to plant. We will put the buxus in the ground in November and I think the roses will go in the following autumn. Currently we are working on clearing the land. We dug out 6 tree stumps from that tiny front yard LOL. Someone also thought it would be a good idea to dump a ton of rocks into the ground and then cover it up with dirt making it impossible to put a shovel in the ground. So now that the tree stumps are out we are taking the rocks out one by one. Its tedious!

The buxus is ridiculously expensive to buy in the size I actually want them to be in so I will be buying smaller versions and give them a chance to grow before I plant the roses. The difference in price by doing this is immense. If I bought them in the size I want them to be it would cost 1800 Euro (roughly 2100 dollars) but If I buy them in smaller sizes it will only cost around 640 Euro (roughly 800 dollars)

Anyways glad you guys liked my design. The original design had the buxus in an octagon shape in the center and the four corner boxes had an angular row (see picture) this really limited the walking space but looked nice. I still havent sold my husband on the new design yet lol but i'll talk him into it unless he manages to talk me out of this one.