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I grow Queen Elizabeth here in N. Texas, and from my experience she enjoys a properly brutal pruning. Try deep watering her, pruning her down, and administering a weak liquid fertilizer. It may be that she is simply using the nutrients to create a stronger root system; often times I find that my roses may not be growing above ground because they are growing below ground.
My QE grows to become a monstrosity, and has breached the 7' threshold already before the summer has hit. Don't lose faith, she's a hardy one.
If you see a huge graft union (knot) in the middle of the rose at the bottom, that indicates that the plant is probably grafted onto Dr. Huey. While it is not 100% bad, in my garden, it does have the tendency to sucker (send up canes of Dr. Huey) more than roses grafted on R. multiflora rootstock. I do still have older plants that are grafted on Dr. Huey, but I keep a close eye on them to watch out for Dr. Huey suckers. I have one on my Touch of Class where I have been battling a Dr. Huey sucker. If you bury the graft union, you may have a better chance of avoiding suckering.
I had a cherry parfait bare root rose that didn't bud out for almost a month! The canes weren't brown but it just sat there..annoying me. Someone on here mentioned to take a plastic grocery bag and cover the the plant, then you should have a stern talking to it. Within a week the plant started sending out new life! It may have been a coincidence but the bush grew fast and caught up to the other bare roots in no time!
Tammy O
Longest lasting are probably Falling in Love and Veterans Honor....both last forever on the bush and in a vase and look good from bud until the end. Always covered in blooms are Easy Going, Julia Child, Easy Does It, Outta the Blue and Passionate Kisses.
The Drift Roses series here in the US would fit your requirements. They stay in that height range, bloom continuously with no maintenance and are extremely disease resistant...no fragrance, though. It appears they are available in Europe...http://www.driftroses.eu/
Thank you both for your answers. I really like the drift roses. I have sent them an email. I have spoken with bierkreek.nl and they initially responded saying that someone was on vacation and they would get back to me in a week. Its been a few weeks since then already and I still havent heard anything back from them. I have looked over what they have available from their website but since I don't have any idea as to what to look for that doesnt do me much good.
Whlle I amOK with getting rid of most of my rose bushes that are infected right now, I will find it very difficult to get rid of my 'Dream Come True' rose bush. That is the one I am trying to salvage.
http://www.rose.org/2008-winner-dream-come-true/
Enjay
Hi Enjay -- I will try to post the pictures this weekend. Long commute/work hours means I am lucky to get home when there is still light. :(
For now, here are links that you can see the pictures as well as description of Bonica and Belinda's dream.
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=792&tab=36
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.574&tab=36
Also, I am 100% with Diana-NJ that you cannot generalize too much when it comes to roses. People might have vastly different experiences even with the same rose in the same area. Although Bonica is doing quite well in my garden, I saw last year the ones at the Brookdale Park (near Bloomfield) seem to suffer quite a bit from blackspot. Being a Newbie myself, I guess how the roses do for us has a lot to with a lot of variables (e.g., quality of specimen, soil, sun exposure and water habit). Carefree Bueaty, another reportedly bullet-proof rose, is a total dud in my garden.
I saw another pink rose, Cape Diamond, there last year, which did not seem affected by any disease at all. http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.44277.0 However, I dare not to grow it as, by the look of its size, it seems to have exceptional vigor and I can only handle smaller roses given how small/crowded my garden is.
If you can manage the time, in addition to the NY Botanical Garden, try the Brooklyn Botanical Garden and Longwood Garden⦠But be forewarned: shopping spree might follow after your tripsâ¦
Mark
I can recommend Teasing Georgia & James Galway (see pic). These were planted in April 2011 and look at them now. They are gorgeous. I counted the number of buds on one cane of TG - 19 soon-to-be flowers! This pic was taken last week & there are many more flowers now.
Another plus - they bloom until December, and come thru our NY winters like the champs they are. No winter dieback & all I do to protect them is throw some mulch around the base.
"...there is life beyond KO :)"
But what if there wasn't? What if we all submitted to the marketing and agreed that Knockout is the only rose worth growing and is the most excellent easy care rose of all time? What if it had been invented 3,000 years ago and no one ever had to breed another rose?
-The houses of Lancaster and York could duke it out in the "Wars of the Knockouts."
-The perfume industry could use "Attar of Knockout."
-The Empress Josephine could have filled the gardens of Malmaison with Knockouts and impressed the French people with her prudent use of easy care landscaping.
-We could be watching the "Tournament of Knockouts" parade.
-The Beast would have to make Belle fall in love with him before the last petal of the magic Knockout rose fell . (He'd better hurry)
-We could enjoy the hit song, "I never promised you a Knockout garden."
The people who like Knockouts should enjoy them and buy them by all means. Aesthetically they're not my cup of Tea, but I've seen a few well-tended ones look very pretty (I think
Blushing Knockout is the prettiest.) They are not the best roses. Even the best rose wouldn't deserve so much gardening space. Variety is the spice of life after all.
This post was edited by amberroses on Sun, Jun 2, 13 at 16:59
Knowing my love of roses, my two teenage children bought me a pink double knockout, and planted it in a large pot last year for Mother's day. They were so proud to do this all on their own.For all the gorgeous/highly scented roses I have, this plain Jane/ common Knockout will forever be my favorite, nothing ugly about it!
Thanks everyone. I think I can get some loam from my brother. I have peat moss also . I'll dig a little of that in also, along with some composted manure. As far as watering my rose goes, we've had so much rain here that I've had to wait a few days to dig because of the mud. I most definitely won't use the stone mulch around my roses. Shredded cedar or pine mulch only. It's amazing how much improved the soil is after that is down for just a year.Well, my back and knees are hurting so I need to get out there and finish the job. Hopefully brother can bring the rest of the ingredients tomorrow and I can get her planted. She was supposed to be 4-5'x4' . At 1 year old she is now at least 7' x 6' and intruding on her neighbors.Thanks again,
deb
Thanks Anntn6b. I always check for drainage before putting a rose in. So far I've been lucky and only had 1 area of heavy yellow clay. I swear you could fashion a pot out it and have it fired and end up with a usable flower pot! This soil looks to be a bit more loamy than the back yard but I will certainly have a soil test done.
deb
Starting on page 67 some blackspot experiments are described.
Here is a link that might be useful: Vol.3 1918 American Rose Annual
This post was edited by henry_kuska on Sun, Jun 2, 13 at 21:50
In 1813, the only highly susceptible types were damasks and centifolias. (Bourbons just being disseminated, IIRC). Gallicas, albas, teas, and chinas are still generally resistant groups. So the worsening problem was due to a change in the population of rose plants. He cites a source claiming that centifolias are resistant, but that could be an error.
The author Wolf discovered the secondary life cycle of blackspot named Diplocarpon. This can form in dead leaves during winter and release airborne spores in spring. Wolf thought this was how BS overwinters. According to modern researchers such as Horst, he was wrong about that. This form of blackspot has only rarely been observed to sporulate. Horst says it doesn't play a significant role in infecting garden roses.
Often this is a small scale problem that doesn't call for a preventative response, so maybe you don't need to do anything.
The bug you found in the hole is not necessarily the culprit. There are sawfly larvae (green worms around 1") that tunnel in buds, and spinosad will kill them.
Being the terribly patient person that I am, (boy did my nose just grow), I will try to refrain from any action until I see more damage....BOY THIS WILL KILL ME!!!!
But I'll try.
thanks, andrea