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Ok...so Ingrid changed my mind.

Hybrid teas are the ones that got me hooked, so they will always be special to me. I think they can be quite beautiful planted en masse and the individual blooms are lovely, many have wonderful fragrances. I love all roses though and want to give them all a chance. Maybe not Knock Outs, but even they serve a purpose.

Why can't they understand? I feel your frustration. My dad made a mess of the garden too when I was just starting out. After a while he stopped. I have had plumbing crews and other service people smash down plants far outside of the work area, even those roped off. I can never understand it. Sometimes its like you have to stand right there watching and waiting to be ready to make a rescue. I do whatever I can myself and try to hire people that will listen if I can't do it myself. It's that " they're only plants " way of thinking and it drives me crazy.

Keep them watered and clean up any raggedy cuts. I would probably go in and cut out any dead growth and clean up/ shape the plants as long as they are getting a trim now. go together to buy some mulch to help them along since they don't have the leaves shading the roots now and the heat will come on. That makes a big difference in helping them bounce back. As soon as the heat passes, you can feed and I bet you'll have some great roses around Thanksgiving. Let us know how it goes.

Thank you all for your responses. Hopefully he will get the hedges cleared out soon as it is a mess right now. But I will keep in mind to water and fertilize after the heatwave is over. I'm going to cross my fingers that they grow back. I think I am more annoyed that he doesn't care about landscaping and can't appreciate it enough to maintain things. He just wants to get rid of all the trees, hedges that he can get his hands on. I need to keep an eye on him when he walks around with the cutters.

Steve, I'm glad you didn't give up. I think you have begun to beat them now.

That baby deer is giving you the stink-eye...

He's saying, "come at me, bro!"

Hi Tigers,
I have Chrysler Imp and Veteran's Honor. Plus I'm an aussie living in the USA but I know Melbourne fairly well! I love both these roses but 2 things: you will definitely have to spray regularly and I'd place them where they get sun from sunrise to noon or so. CI has the most fantastic fragrance, beautiful rose form and is quite a nice shaped bush to boot. Veteran's Honor is simply the most amazing vivid shade of red I've ever seen. It's incredible. Unfortunately, little to no scent. Seems like a nice plant too and pumps out the flowers. Have you been up to the rose gardens at Weribee Park? It's been quite a few years since I was there but they used to be great and they might have specimens for you to check out.

Thanks guys for all your help great info.Yes I have been to the rose garden in werribee wonderfull place and great roses there.I'm just looking forward to see how all 3 go to be honest after reading and speaking to people about them.I must say all 3 roses are pretty rare to come across here.

So sorry to hear about your Mom, Kousa. I've been through that too so I know what a strain it is. I'm glad my pictures were some comfort to you.

Thanks very much everyone. I feel for you too Seil and I know that it is not by accident that your roses are perfect and beautiful but by a lot of constant care, attention, and love that your roses give you such wonderful blooms.

I envy you guys who share your rose obsession with your S.O. But then I remember he shares my horse obsession, so it's all good. It's really kind of funny, because he doesn't understand spending hundreds on roses, but wouldn't blink if I suggested spending thousands on another horse.

Thankfully I do not have the room for spending hundreds on roses, well after I add in the fact I just started my 'container garden' this year. So now it'll just be maintaining haha.

My SO is half and half with supporting. He knows how happy these roses make me, though with the state of the porch, he kinda grumbles when I suggest walking through the garden center hehe. He's actually even helped me on occasion when I ask nicely for a strong man :)

And update for ya'll, those 3 roses came in today and not one comment was made by him, AND yesterday when we wandered through my Lowes, I found the stevia plant I've been looking for all season and he suggested I buy it now! Yippee!

I'm with Seil in the sense that I'll make a more convincing case for my nominees with pictures, though I admit I don't have photos of some that are true contenders. Like Kate, I left the Austins for the OGR list, and there are plenty of moderns to compete for the spots:

Apricot: AARGGGH - this was my (second) toughest category...Abbaye de Cluny? Polka? Bonita Renaissance? My beloved Versigny? Since I've posted one of Versigny recently, and the others are more Austin-like, I'm going with Celeb that I rarely see mentioned here on GW.

Bicolor: OK, for a lover of weird roses this is the only category that could be harder than Apricots. Heart 'n' Soul - already won my "best of Shrub" award. Edgar Degas - heartbreakingly lovely en masse and not too shabby individually. Red Intuition definitely but I don't have a photo. I'll have to go with the kind of rose that anti-modern rosarians hate, that's garish contrast, stiffly formed petals, and virtually indestructible lasting blooms. This could be either Love & Peace or Dream Come True, but my photo was better of Dream Come True.

Mauve: Poseidon would be my vote simply for the health and vigor of the plant, with very nice blooms too, but I don't have a photo. Elizabeth of Goshen and St. Elizabeth of Hungary were in the running but their pictures were blurry. I'm going to go with Pillow Talk below, which is much more purplish than this photo shows, though Nimbus will always have a special haunting place in my heart (but is it really mauve?)

Orange: OK, I thought about sneaking in Oranges and Lemons or Andre Willemse since they're orange stripes, but in the spirit of the thing I stuck with the solids. It came down to Buffy Sainte Marie, Liverpool Remembers, or my final selection that's something indefinably lovely more than orange, Gilbert Becaud:

Pink, warm/light: Aloha and Savoy Hotel are definite contenders for me here, but Spiced Coffee allows me to squeeze in a color blend without exactly cheating on the bicolor category:

Dark/cool pink: Wayyy too many contenders here, as half of the roses seem to be some variety of pink. So once again I'll cheat and put in a lovely eye-catching pink that has an intriguing contrasting flip side (not exactly a bicolor in my strictest interpretation of that term), Shades of Autumn

Red: As much as I love the modern reds and particularly the deep dark burgundy reds, there were only two serious contenders here for me. One is the elusive Messire Delbard, who arrived in mail order with the most heart-stopping intriguing quartered blooms in a deep romantic dark red. Being a climber, he's of course a diva, and so far this summer he's sat in his corner and sulked like the four-year-old he is, refusing to bloom. I'm swayed by a pretty face, so he stays in hopes of future glory. The winner anyway probably would have been Nigrette. I first saw it in a rose garden in Goteborg Sweden when I was on business there in late May. Not the best time for a rose garden visit - almost the only thing in bloom was Nigrette, but my jaw dropped and I resolved I simply had to have this rose. It really is this deeply sensuous dark burgundy red purple black as in this photo, which makes up for it being a scrawny, gluttonous, blackspotted knee-high mess of a diva as it is (thankfully, it's hardy or I might have to bash my head against something hard to stop planting it every year)

White: I have quite a few whites but none that excel over the others. Cream Flower Circus would probably be my pick, but it's too pink to be exactly white. I have PJPII and Bolero, but I couldn't catch them being good, so I'll put in a photo of Lorise that has hints of pink on the petals that are NOT officially bicolored (ahem), so I'm not cheating

Yellow: Sutter's Gold was jumping up and down to get my attention and I almost succumbed, but it's sort of a bicolor, and you know I wouldn't dare to put a bicolor in this competition outside of its category (snort). I'll go with Michaelangelo, who lives up to a rather ambitious name quite well.

Russet: See, I'm not even cheating with bicolors in my bonus category - here's a solid color russet that has earned its favorite spot not just for deeply saturated russet double blooms, but for sheer tenacity in the face of my zone 4 pocket and several clematis that have threatened to strangle it, and nearly succeeded some years. This is Terra Cotta.

Of course it's impossible to pick the most beautiful roses, and my undying loyalty is absolutely swayed by the fantastic choices here, well, all but Nigrette. I guess I have a weakness for scrawny mutts with big dark pleading eyes.

Cynthia

I'm just going to say my most beautiful are, and in no color order:

Cherry Parfait (love the pic above, mine are exact!)
Rose Rhapsody (bought it on whim and can't get enough, a deep dark pink)
Love Song (really pretty lavendar)
Cajun Sunrise (a bicolor cream and pink)
Elle (um, I was told apricot, pics look pink on websties, in RL? I'd go with pink, but maybe I got the wrong rose??)
Colorific (an orange that the heat turns into a nice light red)
Ketchup and Mustard (the name annoys, but the flowers are very eye popping)
Fire n Ice (added it because it was a friends and has as special place in my heart!)
An unknown red (bought at a box store and has been a bloom machine!)
Love and Peace
Dream Come True (both equally gorgeous!)
Some honorable mentions:
Strawberry Ice ( a light pink)
Falling in Love

One day I'll stop being lazy and actually take pictures of my plants! Sadly, at the moment, I've just not had the time to devote enough care for them to produce any kind of decent photo. :(

Here are some pics I took earlier this year! (I'm not the best photographer LOL)

Fire and Ice

Ketchup and Mustard (not the best pic, but it's all I have!)

There are lots of things you can plant in your lovely new yard! If you want roses though you'll have to plant them out from under that tree to get any kind of decent bloom on them. You could put in a nice rose bed out from under the trees in the sunshine as the entry into the more shady "secret" area.

Thank you for all of the replies! I have a newfound enthusiasm for my shady area. Now I have to decide if I should plant all one type of rose as a kind of hedge bordering my secret garden or mix it up. I'll definitely post pics as this project gets going. Thanks again!!

Over the Moon (discussed here on another thread) is not ultra fragrant to my nice but it is gorgeous and a bloom machine. Check out Lady of the Mist. She is gorgeous too and fragrant (to me).
Ultra fragrant just seems to be rare (to my nose).
Jude is ultra fragrant for me but I didn't find Julia to be so.
And Diane your roses are just so gorgeous.
Susan

Elle has a very strong sweet, sweet smell. Smells like candy.

Looks beautiful!

@ jim1961: Yep! That's the rose.

@ racin_rose & susan4952: Thank you! Was unsure how the light pink blooms would look after a couple of days because my other lighter colored plants tend to look kinda gross (dirty, faded and blah). But! Not so much here. This rose is extremely fragrant like WOAH!

Will see though how Gay Princess looks next year this time because its only in its infancy. :-) A lot can happen in 12 months.. (will definitely be keeping my fingers crossed!)

You're fine. Get the rose. It's a good one here in Coastal SoCal. Much better than Just Joey.

kstrong, thats what I needed to hear :-)
Thank you

They weren't actually cut back by the goats, just had all the leaves and the tender tips nibbled off. They didn't break any stems or jerk it out of the ground at all, just ate the leaves. I'll try to get a pic of it this evening but there's not much to see - it's just black. The entire bush is black, like it had been burned somehow. But the canes aren't shriveled in any way....and it happened so fast! I was out there Saturday evening and snipped off the black tips - Monday night the whole plant was black. And this was a one-gallon bush, not a band.

Browsing by goats wouldn't cause that effect. This is puzzling. It sounds like the rose might have been poisoned by something being dumped on it. There is a bacterial blight of rose similar to fireblight that causes black tips and dieback, but I doubt it would kill the whole plant in three days.