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While you're researching roses, you should also read up on blackspot, a fungal disease. In the mid-Atlantic area, BS (blackspot) is a serious issue. Some roses are BS resistant, most will require regular spraying with a fungicide to keep their leaves. Whether you are willing to spray every two weeks throughout the growing season will determine which roses you should plant. Just something to consider.

Go to the American Rose Society web site and find a rose society or a Consulting Rosarian near you. That's the best place to start to find roses that will thrive in your area. These people have been growing roses for a long time and will know which ones do best in your climate. And they'll be more than happy to help you!

Antique Rose Emporium knows their hot-weather roses. Look up some of their pioneer roses. They only do own-root though. (I grow only in pots, so nematodes are less of an issue for me) David Austin as some that are supposed to do well in the south, but I'm not sure if quite as far south as you are!


David Austin's site lists the roses that do best in hot sun (see the link below--scroll down on that page). I don't know if he hasn't gotten around to classifying his newer roses or not, but most of them are not on the list. Abe Darby is, however.
The only one that I grow on that list is Molineux and July and August here are often 100 degrees or higher, so I guess that might qualify as hot.
Molineux does fine through most of hot July as long as I don't forget to water it. However, a few weeks into August, and it tends to give up struggling against the heat and goes semi-dormant, waiting for the cooler autumn weather to return.
While some Austins get fried edges in the strong sun, others aren't that much affected--Molineux being one of them, although there have been occasional days when its blooms get wilted in the sun. Usually that means they need a drink.
By the way, I do not find that my Austins need noticeably more water than my other roses, but that may be because I don't grow GC which some claim is a waterhog. On the other hand, my Austins definitely do not like missing their watering when it gets that hot. so just water regularly.
That said, many Austins prefer some afternoon shade -- to look their best.
Kate
Here is a link that might be useful: Austins for hot weather

I hate to say it, but fragrance seems to accompany disease susceptibility.
No one seemed to mention Fragrant Cloud - probably among the best stinkers around, it's a high-count double with exhibition quality. The lower petals reflex downward very much like Touch-Of-Class and other exhibition winners. It blooms constantly, is a fairly compact HT and more bushy in shape.
Of course, one of the finest roses ever bred is Double Delight - second only to Peace in historic popularity, it's a great stinker and the flowers are incomparable (except for Peace, perhaps). It's also fairly compact and available almost everywhere.
Both Fragrant Cloud and Double Delight are Gamble award winners for fragrance. Secret is too, but I have severe issues with thrips on mine. If that new fungus chemical from Rosemania works this coming season, I may change my mind on Secret. ;-)
You will probably have to spray any of these, though, to keep the BS off.

^ I was honestly a little stumped when trying to think of a very fragrant rose that was also long lasting around here. I have around 100 roses, so I honestly don't always notice whether or not single blooms stick around, as there are always others nearby. I agree too, that Austin roses turn into monsters here, as do a great deal of antiques. Pretty much count on sizes being at least double what they're reported to be in the catalogs.
Hybrid teas that I do like, and that do reasonably well during our heat are Pope John Paul II (white, very fragrant), Pink Peace (med. pink, very fragrant), Grande Dame (dk. pink, very fragrant), Gemini (pink/white bicolor, little fragrance), Veteran's Honor (red, lightly fragrant). I have several others that are new, so can't really comment on them.
I also like Hot Cocoa (russet, lightly scented), Koko Loco (lavender/tan, moderately scented), Archduke Charles (lt pink/fades? to dk pink, lightly scented), and Belinda's Dream (lt. pink, lightly scented). These will be larger and shrubbier than the hybrid teas.

Camps, I think our down time is in the middle of summer when the veggies start frying, of course that is when the canning starts for all the fruit trees. I would love a couple of off months, but I would also hate the time spent prepping for snow, so I guess I like our seasons.
I have about 3/5s of the patio leveling first phase done. just have to finish the last section, move and level where the green house was, raise the Hoe House, move the fencing inward, build the benches, add the retaining wall (not in that order) build an arbor covered bench, plant, paint....YIKES

Three weeks later....
The fruit trees did not get sprayed (yet) either about to rain or roast.
The retaining wall is mostly in.
Just a couple more loads of dirt needed
A bunch of more stepping stones needed too
Half the fence is moved-just one small gate needed and then the actual building part.
All the painting and then the built in benches etc.
But, a ton of dirt has been shoved up the hill and the Hoe House is in a new elevation.
And I am taking a break (oh ya and 3 of the rentals are done too)
The section of the fence to the left of the hoe house is where my SldM cl is going to have a small arbor/bench built. The two citrus trees will replace the jasmine as a hedge between us and the neighbors and the Mr Lincoln...well in there some where I think!



From my experience, Memorial Day has been the best black spot resistant rose I've ever had. It blooms constantly and I love it. Other roses I have had that have issues include:
Frau Karl Druschki - easy to take cuttings from, nice blooms but it does get BS very easily.
Peace - never had much luck with this and it really gets BS - can weaken a plant to death.
Double Delight - same as Peace.
Chrysler Imperial - Blooms and fights BS but drops leaves everywhere.
Mr. Lincoln - blooms and will drop every leaf that has BS.
Whisper - One of the worst roses I've ever tried to grow. nice blooms but BS will kill it.

Golden Fairytale- No BS in 4 years now. Slight late season mildew in Sept./Oct. Almost always in bloom.
Eliza- No disease in 4 years now.
Grand Amore- slight affliction to BS in late season in 5 years now. No mildew.
La Perla- no disease in 2 years.
Beverly- above average disease resistance, but not perfect. Some mid to late season BS and late season mildew. Huge, long lasting and exceptionally fragrant blooms make it worth it regardless.

Yes, many roses are hard to locate, but 'Jardins de Bagatelle' doesn't appear to be one of them. One reliable source for healthy own-root plants is Roses Unlimited. I've just checked their 2013 catalog and find that JdB is listed. Perhaps they've already sold out, but I suggest that you contact them to see if they still have it available.


Belinda's Dream is a must. Big healthy bush. Tons of beautiful, fragrant pink blooms with nice cutting stems. Beautiful foliage that stays clean all the time. Also Grand Amore. A beautiful red HT that blooms like crazy and stays clean all season. It passed Germany's ADR 2 yr test, so it should do quite well over on this side of the pond.



I frequently have 2" - 4" of new growth on my roses when I prune them (usually in late March/early April), with no problems. It happens some years, last year, most of them had fully leafed out, but I still waited until the forsythia was in bloom to prune.

To see a photo of a magnificent Purezza, check out the letter "P" post that was part of an entire alphabet in rose photos on the Rose Gallery Forum recently. A Forum member, dark lady, showed this gorgeous photo, along with many eye popping other photos.. That alphabet was huge, with hundreds of photos posted. Great participation. Diane


'New Dawn' and 'Dr. W. van Fleet' are identical, since the former is a remontant sport of the latter; there are no visual differences between the two. The only clue as to their identities is that 'New Dawn' reblooms but 'Dr. W. van Fleet' does not.


If you have had temperatures near zero, there may be some winter damage on the upper canes. This would show as exterior shrivelling or as brown center pith when you cut into it. Damaged wood should be removed along with twiggy growth on the inside of the plant. I wouldn't cut them way down.
If they were sold as potted plants, did you take precautions to spread the roots out. A potted root bound plant can be reluctant to spread its own roots.
Here is a link that might be useful: If your rose is