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Over the Moon (discussed here on another thread) is not ultra fragrant to my nice but it is gorgeous and a bloom machine. Check out Lady of the Mist. She is gorgeous too and fragrant (to me).
Ultra fragrant just seems to be rare (to my nose).
Jude is ultra fragrant for me but I didn't find Julia to be so.
And Diane your roses are just so gorgeous.
Susan
@ jim1961: Yep! That's the rose.
@ racin_rose & susan4952: Thank you! Was unsure how the light pink blooms would look after a couple of days because my other lighter colored plants tend to look kinda gross (dirty, faded and blah). But! Not so much here. This rose is extremely fragrant like WOAH!
Will see though how Gay Princess looks next year this time because its only in its infancy. :-) A lot can happen in 12 months.. (will definitely be keeping my fingers crossed!)
They weren't actually cut back by the goats, just had all the leaves and the tender tips nibbled off. They didn't break any stems or jerk it out of the ground at all, just ate the leaves. I'll try to get a pic of it this evening but there's not much to see - it's just black. The entire bush is black, like it had been burned somehow. But the canes aren't shriveled in any way....and it happened so fast! I was out there Saturday evening and snipped off the black tips - Monday night the whole plant was black. And this was a one-gallon bush, not a band.
Browsing by goats wouldn't cause that effect. This is puzzling. It sounds like the rose might have been poisoned by something being dumped on it. There is a bacterial blight of rose similar to fireblight that causes black tips and dieback, but I doubt it would kill the whole plant in three days.
I can't answer your scent questions but here is
some great pics of Louise Clements...
Here is a link that might be useful: Louise Clements & other Clements roses
Kate--notice the females keep on eating--a romantic dinner with roses on the table.
Kitty--yes, netting would work, but a rose garden is supposed to be an ornamental garden. To me it makes more sense just to remove all the flower buds during the bad part of JB season.
Thank you, I'll try those suggestions for this winter. Don't need to worry much about them not being covered in snow, once it starts here... It doesn't stop until march! I'll look for the far north forum too, thank you. I think if they remaining 3 don't come back next year I'll replace with something else besides roses. Something that will survive up here :)
a few come to mind. #1. Bought a Tropicana at Kmart for 50 cents in the early 70s, had beautiful fragrant blooms for 30 years before I lost it. #2. bought La Marne at Home Depot about 10 years ago in a two gallon pot for $1. It's always the first to bloom and blooms all summer, never has a problem with disease. Talk about the best $1 that I ever spent! #3. About 7 years ago someone pulled up a white rose by the roots to bring to a plant swap and didn't wrap it in wet newspaper or anything. Didn't know the name, it only had two little canes. I took it at the end of the swap because she was going to throw it away. Drove around all day with that poor rose in the back of a pickup in the hot sun. Put it in water that night and the next day it had perked up. So I planted it. It has been a consistent bloomer, but this year WOW! It has been covered with fragrant blooms all summer! I suspect it might be Iceberg, but haven't seen one that I can compare it to.
Stems would have to be totally encrusted with aphids for a week to cause any noticeable damage to the subsequent flower.
Freezing can cause a pebbly texture to petals, but that's impossible in midsummer.
I would dismantle the buds and look with a magnifier for small critters. This doesn't sound like damage from flower thrips, but maybe so.
Thanks a bunch for the encouragement. Carding Mill and the 3 miniatures are all doing beautifully. They have even made some new babies (sorry, I'm mushy) since I put them into their new homes.
Since you already have experience with potted roses, can you tell me how much work it is to repot them when they need it? The miniatures don't worry me, but the Carding Mill is in a container that took 3 bags of E.B. Stone Edna's Best. (1.5 cu feet apiece). That's a lot of dirt to wrestle with. I understand that it should be done about every 3 or 4 years.
Do you do this?
thanks again,
andrea
Well...to be honest I haven't had mine 3-4 years...but as big as your pot is, I would treat it like a rose in the ground. I would prune it, shovel it along the dripline to a manageable root ball, and re-pot. If you think about transplanting a mature plant that's been in the ground, we are able to really cut through the roots and after a break the plant bounces right back.
Your container seems huge, I wouldn't really anticipate having to re-pot it. The only issue of concern to me is that over the course of several years the soil will degrade to the point where you'd almost be growing the rose hydroponically because you'd have to provide everything for it.
I've read up on this quite a bit, and it seems to me that most people only observe that container growing limits the overall size of the plant, and binding of the roots can be a concern after several years in a pot. I have noticed that miniatures outgrow their containers very quickly!
I'm putting up a greenhouse and doing a long-term study on growing roses in "smart pots" or "grow bags" instead of non-porous containers. In theory, they should never require re-potting because of the air pruning effect of these containers. We shall see...
I'm hoping some experts can give you better insight into this.
That's a shame! I agree, fire him! But don't worry because your rose will grow back. If he left you 3 feet of cane it should start to branch out again from there. There's no way to know how long it may take for that variety to return to it's former stature. It will depend a lot on the vigor of your rose but it will be beautiful once again I'm sure.
I don't grow it, but if you google "Help Me Find Roses" there is a website where you can look it up. Where are you? Roses do way differently in different climates, and if we know where you are (what part of what state), folks on here who live nearby might be able to give you more info.
Jackie
Thanks Jackie, I will look it up. We must be neighbors of some sort. I live in San Jose foothills.
This is a PS to the above message. Thanks for the site Jackie, I just looked up my rose and it was listed plus it gave the rose an excellant rating! The one in my container on the porch looks exactly like the picture. It has to be one of the most true, bright red full roses I have ever grown.
This post was edited by grambu on Thu, Aug 15, 13 at 2:08