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Here are a few photos of my "pink" border. There are a number of different roses, not a mass planting of one. Evelyn is the only one in multiples and that is just three, though she is pretty big. I use a variety of pink annuals and perennials to tie it all together. In my climate, some snapdragons last two or three years, while others reseed, though I still managed to plant about 100 new snapdragon plants this spring (boring!). Diane
I wish the neighbor's guest house, or whatever it is, was not so prominent in this photo. This is a partial shot of the pink border. Evelyns are on the left end, then Royal Bonica with some of
Brother Cadfael showing on the the right.
A close up Evelyn and the surrounding snapdragons
Another section of the border showing the rose Royal Bonica, pink daisies, snaps, and alyssum just getting started.
Diane
So, today I was heading out of the subdivision and at the front common grounds a group of men were working. One was mowing, another weed eating and another spraying the rocks and brick edging on all the flower beds. I stopped to ask just what they were spraying. Either they spoke no english or acted like they didn't because I didn't get an answer.
It may be a time to get up a petition about them spraying round-up. They can just pull those weeds by hand! I bet if the residents in the subdivision knew they were spraying round-up in all the common areas on a weekly basis they'd be upset. The children play in those areas!
There's a park in Southern CA where the City came in, and sprayed the entire park with Roundup.
Their idea was that if they killed everything in THAT park, that would take care of their required water-use reductions for the whole City. Never mind the health-and-property consequences to surrounding residents (who were not warned in advance).
They just figured, children and pets could go right on playing on the chemical-soaked dead turf. GAAAAAHHH!!!
I saw Eden at the Huntington Gardens and was awestruck by seeing the blooms in person. I'm not sure of Huntington's zone, 10 maybe? But they are definitely frost free. I promptly looked up Eden when I got home, but was scared off by reports of rust and thrips. She sure was pretty at the Huntington though.
Mine is about the same size as Patbama's though not quite as broad since it has to recover from being trimmed to the ground each year (mine's probably about 3X3). Nice pictures, Pat. Regardless, it's one of my more reliable bloomers and clearly in the top 5% of the roses I grow (and I have a lot of them). Every now and then I'll get a mostly white bloom, but it's pretty consistently picoteed and has long-lasting blooms.
Thanks for the info on the grandi- vs. flori- distinction, Jeremy. I rarely trust how tall a rose is "supposed" to grow from its label, since even HTs can vary immensely in my yard. HMF sure helps get a range, but even then I'm frequently surprised, particularly for roses that are supposed to be large but aren't in my yard.
Cynthia
Rugosas are as delicious to borers as raspberries. I have at least three types of borers. I find primacanes wilting from just inches above the ground (with no other visible damage) and find a grub, having gained entrance to the cane via puncture in the side of the primacane, burrowing a few inches below. I also find new growth tips ragged and blackened with a grub gaining entrance into the cane by chewing through the center of the new growth. Lastly, I find cigar-like swellings mid-cane (with no sign of wilting), that sometimes contain a stem-girdling grub. I've found the literature confusing when I've tried to ID these pests. The good news is the treatment is the same: cut the damaged canes progressively lower until there is no visible damage to the interior. The bad news is that even though there is one generation of each type per year, the fact that the pests emerge at different times makes mine an all-summer battle.
Thank you Kim for getting back to me. Most of my roses get morning until about 1 to 2 depending on the time of the year. Though I could plant her in a more shadier place. (Dappled sun) MAybe I should try her in a pot first to see what she would like the best, though I probably wouldn't leave her in the pot.... which means do you think she should be on fortuniana woodstock?
Thank you.
Hi Sharon, you're welcome. If root knot nematodes are an issue where you are, I'd think Fortuniana would be helpful. The three plants I posted photos of above, I budded to virus indexed Fortuniana last year (6-16-14) and they're growing well. They're in too small pots, but finding used larger ones here is problematic. Almost all of my roses are complaining about the UV being too extreme here near the ocean, unless they are provided some respite from the worst of it. If yours is as extreme as it is here, probably everything will appreciate some protection against it. As the climate continues changing, even positions once felt inappropriate for roses are likely to become increasingly beneficial. Annie Laurie McDowell is quite shade tolerant, particularly where shade is comfortable for YOU. I plant to situate mine where they will receive protection against the hottest, most extreme sun. I'll plant others which are less fragrant with heavier petals and which require more sun to perform in the more brilliant positions.
Your idea of testing the plant in the different situations is good, but I would caution that hotter positions are also going to be hotter to the pot surfaces and may seem to indicate the plant won't be happy, when it is the overheated soil ball causing the issues. I'd make sure the pot remains shaded so the roots stay cool, as they will in the soil, to isolate the effects of too hot sun on the foliage from those of the too hot sun on the roots through heat absorption through the pot walls. Good luck!
Thank you so much, fragrance. I love, and am astounded at, the gorgeous roses you grow. I'm still thinking about that wonderful Sonia. Sadly, I don't believe Love Song has much scent, but I haven't really checked, and I haven't used her blooms in a bouquet. Both my LS are pretty new, so I've just left the blooms on the plant. Maybe someone else can give a more definite reply. Tomorrow, I'll run out and check for scent. I am so pleased with Love Song, though, not only for the constant flowering, but the rounded, neat shape of the plant reminds me of Julia Child. Diane
Again, $200K US is not enough. It is not even close. You seem to know very little about roses, importing and sustaining, agricultural products, and not very much about business. Perhaps you should come up with a money-making scheme in an area you do know something about.
@kippy..thanks for your advise..and catrose,money making scheme? im not desperate about money and business at all..
i love rose and just a little idea cross my mind..who knows this could be a business opportunity..if its not..then its fine..
yes i think 200k might not enough for big garden,thanks for that.
maybe i should try another idea like a restaurant or hotel with small rose garden as kippy suggested?maybe the next thing that i need to have is the rose from overseas
.any nurseries out there who can ship overseas?or any member here could help me to send the rose by fedex or dhl?i could pay for that..thank you
FWIW, I've ordered it twice from Edmunds and it rapidly cankered down to nothing within a few weeks and died. They've replaced it when I emailed, but I obviously can't comment on its growth habits when happy. You might try it from HD if you can find one that has healthy canes on it. I think Gold Medal is in a different and higher range of quality - both for disease resistance and beauty of the blooms - but that's my impression. I love that rose too. It's getting toward the time of year when HD might discount their potted roses, and that would be a good excuse to give it a try.
Cynthia
I've only seen pictures of Princess Anne, but here is how David Austin describes her color:
" The young flower is deep pink, almost red, gradually fading to a pure deep pink as the bloom matures. The undersides of the petals have a pleasing hint of yellow."
I personally like roses that go through a series of color changes. Molineux is another Austin rose that can bloom anything from apricot pink and cream to golden apricot and bright yellow to mellow yellow and cream. Fun to see what color it will be each day.
No lavender in Princess Anne, according to DA. However, other sources mention the attractive lavender-purple shades the blooms pick up as the bloom ages.
One virtue Princess Anne has that is very important in my garden--it is rated as "very disease resistant." She also seems to be a really good bloomer.
If I had any room left in my garden, this is one rose for sure that I would plant.
I'm looking forward to those pics!
Kate
SoFLRose10, thanks for the suggestion. I didn't want to use 2 of 3 different roses since I tend to plant in couples or threes. This way I'll still have 3 First Crush left.
Kate~ I went with your and Seil's suggestion: 3Princess Anne, 3 Boleros. Now I'll just have to wait until they flower. The growth on the PA is still pretty minimal. These have only been potted for about 3 weeks, but they are growing nicely, sending out lots of shoots. The Boleros already have flowered and have set a second flush of buds so these should be flowering in about a month. I hope PA flowers at least once so I can see her color. Even DA's pictures look lavenderish in the catalog, so I'll just have to wait and see. Everyone raves about the prolific bloom, hardiness and disease resistance so she does sound like a winner!
I will post some pics when the garden is finished :-)
Sharon
Very nice SoFL Rose z10! I can't wait until our new EDI blooms again!
Dry heat or not, heat is heat and the direct sun has played hob with my (already age-challenged) skin. Frankly I'll be just as happy to get back to somewhere where there is humidity. Dry eye is mondo uncomfortable.
It does do wonders for the roses, though. The roses in the backyard of this rental are totally neglected, and they are out of control. Nary a spot of black spot, or any other fungi or diseases. The biggest problem with them is the shoots from the neighbor's trumpet vine that come up in the middle of Thorn Central there, and then can't be reached because of the wild growth of the roses.
Diane, I have never seen blister beetles up north, but we have terrible emerald ash borers here, a lot of ash trees got killed, the tree services are making a lot of money treating ash trees these days. It costs about $1000+ to cut down a tree, so you can see badly damaged ash trees everywhere in the neighborhood.....
Zensojourner, Trumpet vine is hard to control, and it has gaint roots, pull it out as soon as you see it. It can take over a yard really fast. Good luck.
And guys, I know how to make your face as soft as baby's bottom, apply Queen Helene Natural Cocoa Creme (15oz/ $6.25 @ Rite Aid) after washing your face at night time. It renews skin from the summer heat. Just try it for 2 weeks, you will see the difference. :-)