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I asked Beales about General Schablikine before ordering, and their nurseryman told me that in their chilly z7 ish area with cold easterlies, the General can still reach 5ft, although they keep it smaller usually. I was asking in the context of wanting a centrepiece shrub though, so big was good news for me. Unfortunately, it did not occur to me to ask exactly how they managed the trick of keeping it smaller, sorry about that!
This post was edited by FDUK on Mon, Feb 9, 15 at 7:55

Woo hoo! Sounds like a blast!! I just started pulling up pavers to continue a rose garden that I started this fall. The pavers covered 3ft of pure sand. No soil at all! I was so distraught. Now I'm just digging and adding soil. I kept thinking if I dig deep enough I would eventually reach dirt, but I just keep getting sand. I hope they do well in the amended 3 ft of soil I'm putting in over the sand. I may have to make a raised bed over the whole thing as well.
I have Eden climber, but she hasn't bloomed yet. It's been 2 years. Everyone says she takes 3 years to get going so here's hoping.
I too ordered lady Emma Hamilton. After seeing her at the golden gate park rose garden last summer while visiting the west coast I fell madly in love with her. I hope she does well in my climate. I don't know anyone who grows Austin's here in SoFL so it's all trial and error for me.
Good luck with your roses!!!!

I don't know that I would bother with a raised bed. People here around Houston suggest raised beds because of the clay, but I typically just work in rose soil and compost into the soil and improve it. I guess it might be a slightly raised bed, but it isn't like its framed with landscape timbers and built up a ft or more above the ground.

Here is Molineux with an apricot center, outer petals quite light. This is the shade I most often associate with Molineux, but really, he changes daily sometimes: 
I was going to insert several pics so you could see the range of colors, but most of my Molineux photos are on Photobucket, and I can't figure out how to use it with this new format. If anyone has suggestions, let me know.
Kate

I would call molineux a yellow rose. For the most part it is a yellowish rose. Jude however is not. She leans more towards cream colored, or beige as people have said. Honestly, her color is somewhat blah. What really makes her a spectacular rose is her fragrance. Bloom form and size are good too. But she has to be the most fragrant of all the Austin's and it's not just a rose scent either. She has a spectacular fruity fragrance that's very unique.
Also both of these roses have very different growth habits. Jude is tall and can make a huge bush in warm climates; 5ft x4ft. Molineux is one of the smallest Austin's reaching about 3ft x2.5ft so that's something to consider.


Purple TigerI'm dying to get my hands on Stranger! SO gorgeous.Personally I love my stripeys best of all. They're what started me with roses in the first place! I have a garden full of them and, IMHO, they fit in perfectly.
George Burns
Hypnotized!
Oranges and Lemons

Belle Doria (Commandant Beaurepaire)

Rock & Roll

Scentimental

Wonderstripe

Lyn can you right click on the link to bring up the option to open in a new window or tab?
Wirosarian you can change the page look so only the post appears with no replies. On the main page in the upper right there are a couple of grids you can click on to change the way it displays.
Beautiful pictures!
Julie

Besides being really old, this is a hilarious thread! Anyone want to buy some rare "Simplicity" tags.......I know Kim looooooves this rose.
With any luck the 10+ year old or so thread on Pizzles from the pet forum will return. That one was gold!

Kippy, I missed the Pizzles thread, and I think it's gone from the Wayback machine. Someone tried to find it for me. We need to try to gather all the funny threads from all of GW and put them together somewhere. We're a hoot, if I do say so, lol. Remember the one about the fish/alfalfa mix fermenting into....olfactory garden gold? Who was that?

Thanks for your compliments and well wishes, JJ. We all want to find roses that we love, and that perform well in our conditions. And we want to do it without picking too many of the wrong roses along the way. That's why I'm posting these rose reports on Humpty Dumpty House Facebook. I'm describing our conditions, the care, the age of the rose, and pictures of the foliage, the shrub, the buds, the blooms in all their forms, the color changes, and anything else I'd want to see before buying a rose. I'm hoping people who visit our facebook "like" our page because a critical number of likes can get us the help we need to reopen the gardens and resume our charitable work until I mend enough to rejoin the world. Here's the link:



suz, if you'd like your zone to be visible after your name, go in your profile and hit "edit". Then go to the line that says "first name" and make the zone part of your name and submit. That way it will show up each time you post. Ingrid

As per this webpage Reasons For Rose Leaves Turning Yellow, "Sometimes the rose’s foliage can be burned by either too much granular fertilizer of foliar feeding (Miracle Gro) and it will burn the foliage such that it will turn yellow in places and fall off". Are the roses young? If so, Kim Rupert recommended feeding weekly, weakly. Here's the link to the old thread that might be useful: Feeding-weekly-weakly (Hey, being able to post two links in one post is kinda cool)!

Has anyone received their DA orders yet? I am in FL so it says Jan/Feb for my zone. I called and they said sometime next week. I think I called on Friday -so this week sometime, *maybe* lol. I am really excited but I still need to go get some more pots.
For those of you who have received bare root roses from DA in the past, how large of a pot do they need to just start out in? I can always bump up the pot size later and I might put some in the ground once I figure out what conditions each one wants in my yard (shade/sun etc) and get some more beds tilled this spring.

Jasmine, I've planted ours in 5-gal nursery pots, but if your weather gets real hot, give the black pot some protection so you don't cook the roots.
Have fun!
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I'm posting evaluations of all our roses, along with lots of pictures: buds, blooms, burned blooms, the whole shrub. The good, the bad, and the ugly . On Humpty Dumpty House Foundation Facebook page. Link is below.
If you like what we do, please give us a page 'like'. This simple act can help us get the gardens and our work back up and running during my absence due to an injury.

Rogue Valley Roses has it too, but it's a band. I purchased from High Country Roses and Rogue Valley and was happy with both growers.

I would not call David Austin roses "easy" to grow. Easy to me, means you don't have to spray them.
There are at least 2 varieties of the Easy Elegance roses that are nicely fragrant. I grow both of them. Neither are Red, though.
Kiss me- Pink
and
Sweet Fragrance- Apricot.
It is supossed to be a non spray rose, but I spray all of mine anyway.
Here is a pictue of Sweet Fragrance (The apricrot rose in the foreground)- It is one of my all time favorites because it blooms constantly and grows to 3-4 feet tall on neat well proportioned bushes with beautiful shiny leaves. Fragrance is a 7 out of 10. Not bad for easy care!


My Kashmirs are huge, 5' tall, first year own root plants. Love em, but not low!
Prolific, hardy, fragrant, compact, shade tolerant is a tall order.
My Iceberg roses tolerate afternoon sun and still bloom a lot. Sorry, not fragrant.
Sweet Fragrance is lovely, may have to give that a try.

Heres my take on fragrant reds that I grow or have grown-
Papa Meilland- The best way to grow this is in a tightly planted group of 3, planted 1 foot or less apart. The branches are brittle and they will sometimes break in the wind. The bushes are awkward looking and mishapen when planted as single specimens, but the 3 together look pretty good. The scent is intense. On any given day, this could be the most fragrant.
Mr Lincoln- grows tall and throws off some very large flowers, along with some weirdly long canes. Like its brother Papa M, On any given day it could be the most fragrant rose.
Chrysler Imperial- Short, intense fragrance, not as winter hardy or as vigorous as the others.
Velvet Fragrance- Strong scent, good repeat, neat growth habit.
Firefighter- Grows taller and relatively narrow. Intense scent, good repeat. Could be the strongest.
Crimson Glory- Short ( I grow it ownroot) with nodding blooms, excellent repeat, Intense scent could be the strongest on any given day. I'm not a fan of blooms that point down.
Rouge Royal- Longest life in the vase, horrible if you let the flower open on the plant. You must cut every bloom off if you want to enjoy this plant, otherwise they open malformed with rot. Intence scent unlike the others, could be the strongest. This is not a true red, as it has purple tones.
Barcelona- Week bush, small blooms that get thrippy, intense scent.
Alec's Red- Has a lot of Pink, but still considered Red. Fantastic repeater, compact bush, intense scent, but just a half grade less intense than some of the others. One of my favorites.
Lasting Love- On the first flush, it's mostly one to a stem blooms, on later flushes it is more of a floribunda. Intense scent, could be the strongest. Good repeat, shorter, compact growth habit.
Oklahoma- Tall but not vigorous. I have tried 2x with this and they just never seem to like my garden. Slow repeat, but intense fragrance, could be the strongest.
I know I'm calling several of them the most fragrant, but on any given day, it changes.

In my mild area by Disneyland Papa M is large but I don't try to keep this rose small. I heard it is a weak grower but I think it is just a slower grower than some others. The bigger the plant, the more roses it has made. It continues to flower all year. The shape of the plant is open and tall. I have it in back tied to a few stakes to keep it from encroaching on other plants or breaking in the wind.







What I have done in the past, Susan is to pot up the multiple stems in separate pots (there are always 3 or 4 plants jammed together in those little pots) and put the pots under a florescent light - as if you are starting seeds. Keep the light fixture quite close, maybe a foot to 18" above the plants. Take them to the sink if you have a sprayer, or to the shower if you do not and give them a bath every week - that keeps the bugs away. Fertilize very very lightly (after they push out new growth) and get them outdoors just as soon as the freezing cold weather ends, first in a sheltered spot and gradually moving them still in their pots, to the spot where they'll be planted. After they are acclimated, get them in the ground. It's a bit of work, I'll admit, but they should do fine. I've done it many times. (And yes, how can you resist those lovely little buds right there waiting to jump into your grocery cart?) ;-)
Anne
I just bought 4 beautiful ones at Walmart. I am going to repot them carefully, intact, in good soil in little larger pots, keep them inside at night as it is still chilly but not freezing, out in bright shade all day. Once I see some new growth, I am going to LIGHTLY at half strength give them some fish emulsion or Garret Juice [which is mostly vitamins] and go from there. Cant bear to nip off the buds....tho I probably should so roots can get a start. By nipping buds, you divert attention from blooming into growing. I SHOULD do this....but bought them to enjoy the blooms, so will just see what happens. Will probably nip off any buds that form after these big ones bloom.
Judith