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altorama(5/6 MA)

I have a rose which really shouldn't be cane-hardy here, I planted it next to the house where it is protected from northern winds and its about 8' tall.

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seil zone 6b MI

Planting location can make a big difference on hardiness. If it's in a well protected micro climate area it could winter very well and really climb!

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Beth zone 8a Dallas, TX

We are hovering between 95 and 105 for the last couple of weeks and we probably have at least another 4 weeks of this. It will start cooling down here mid September and we usually don't get a frost until mid to late November. I've seen many a halloween though where the kids needed coats and gloves and Thanksgivings where they were in shorts. You gotta love Texas weather.

I don't see roots yet but will keep a close eye on them and assess each one along. My main concern was transplanting in this hot weather and stressing them or stressing them in the cold if roots are showing then.

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seil zone 6b MI

If you don't break up the root ball when you make the transfer from small pot to large they shouldn't really feel any stress at all. They should only feel stressed if the roots are heavily disturbed making it more difficult for them to take up water. And as mustbenuts said, a little shade couldn't hurt in 100+ temps.

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altorama(5/6 MA)

Here is some of Rosarium Uetersen, in part shade.

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view1ny NY 6-7

Hang in there with TG. Mine survived the last 2 horrible winters & that's saying a lot as I lost many, many others that just couldn't take the cold.

When it grows a bit more, it'll hopefully put out tons of buds & blooms. Mine is now in its second flush and has a good number of flowers.

Buford, if I understand correctly you have TG in a pot. Mine is in its 5th year and is about 10' high & 8' wide. I had to prune her like mad to get her in somewhat manageable shape. So eventually when your youngster really starts growing you'll probably have to look around for a permanent spot for her. Good luck.

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altorama(5/6 MA)

Was the branch cut back and then you noticed the hole? I think that is from cane borers, and some people put glue where the cut is made to prevent it.

I'm sure someone with more knowledge will answer all your questions though!

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

The picture shows a nest of the small carpenter bee, probably shallow, drilled into the pith of a cut cane. As you see, such canes can support vigorous growth above. I would leave it until dormancy or until spring pruning next year. They are not eating the rose tissue. The little black bees are useful pollinators.

The other case sounds like a more dangerous borer that is running down the cane from the tip. At this time of year I may find a few larvae of the rose stem sawfly; Out West they have the similar raspberry horntail sawfly. Prune down until you find the culprit and kill him. Look for wilted growth tips on other roses (not normal afternoon wilting). You may find neat cuts in the bark a couple of leaves from the top and a white worm inside, farther down the stem.

P{lease add your location to your username.

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SoFL Rose z10

Eden is not very cold hardy as far as I know. Its always been touted as a good rose for the south. I would keep it in a pot and over winter it somewhere warm then plant it next spring.

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altorama(5/6 MA)

Actually mine got quite large here.

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prairie_northrose (3b north of Calgary, AB, Canada)

Just a shot in the dark here, but do you fertilize your lawn, and is the rose close to it? There are several in town here loaded with blooms.

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Beth zone 8a Dallas, TX

Nope, no fertilizer. We still have a yard of weeds in our new house so haven't put anything on it. Neighbors on both sides fertilize but most people here use a company that sprays on fertilizer twice a year and I obtained MC after they sprayed in the spring.

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toolbelt68(7)

Summersrhythm, I got them from JP.

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summersrhythm_z6a

Toolbelt, All 4 of them have thorns (not a lot, but here and there) on the back of leaves. The rose band was from Angel Gardens, others were from JP. May be when they're older, the thorns would disappear, won't be spicy any more? :-)

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roseseek(9)

You're welcome, Bonnie. They should continue working as long as the soil remains moist and there are bugs for them to eat. How is Ireland, BTW?

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jasminerose4u, California 9b

I'm back from Ireland. It was wonderful. There is a saying in Ireland, "If it's not raining, it's about too".

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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Fragrance?

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mirendajean (Ireland)(Donegal, Ireland)

There's some fragrance, however with the rain I'm struggling to determine the strength of it. The blooms last a good long while though and there hasn't been any trouble with balling in the rain.

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summersrhythm_z6a

Thanks Michael, Not sure if there is label on the bag, I will check it later, bought it from a chemical store, not a nursery. I will look for the wettable sulfur. Thanks for the tip.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

"micronized" is better than "wettable" and you use less per tankful.

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jasminerose4u, California 9b

Interesting videos, thanks.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Midges, if not controlled, usually get worse as the season goes on. Only a few survive winter to affect the early flush of growth, but they have a fast reproductive cycle and build up from month to month, so you get few roses in summer and fall. I hope the fact that your problem is worst in spring means it is something other than rose midge. You could collect a few growth tips and take them to ag extension for diagnosis. The tiny midge larvae can be hard to see.

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altorama(5/6 MA)

Thank you Michael.

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zack_lau z6 CT

Yes, the climate is the hardest factor to control--St. Patrick loves the hotter weather, while most roses do better in the cooler weather. I've heard the Austins like a lot of water--it rains a lot in England. I have a Dainty Bess that thrives in afternoon sun--though I got another plant to try in full sun. By growing a lot of different types of plants, you have a better chances of growing at least a few that match the current climate, assuming you don't grow so many that you can't properly take care of them all.

I find it is important to renew the plant by getting rid of the old canes that won't bloom well--I do this in the late Winter when there isn't much else to do.

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Sara-Ann Z6B OK

Thank you Zack for that advice.

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rosecanadian

Purple Beauty (which is acutally pink) has a fragrance like Memorial Day. I love them both!

Carol

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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

When I made the above list I was thinking pink roses as I thought that was what Patty was asking for. I agree DD is still one of the best roses for fragrance around. However, when we step outside of the pink range I would suggest Ebb Tide, Felicia, Augusta Luise, Blue Moon, Barbra Streisand, Papa Meilland, Firefighter, Jude the Obscure and Crimson Glory as best smelling roses to my nose. I can sniff any of these roses 24/7 without getting tired of their perfume.

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MizLizzie(7B)

Beth, can you keep me posted? I am more than a little OCD and this shifting landscape color irritates me. First world problem, yes, I know . . .

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Beth zone 8a Dallas, TX

I'll let you know what is going on with them. In this heat I suspect I won't have anything blooming for a good four weeks. We are having 100 degree days and all my roses have gone to sleep.

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