21,402 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

Just wait until my cats learn how to post. Then the fur will really fly.

And given what they have already managed to do on my computer, learning to post without a preview feature will be kitten play to them.

1 Like    Bookmark   February 10, 2015 at 3:51PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Thanks - That makes me feel silly, I need to pay closer attention.

    Bookmark   February 10, 2015 at 4:32PM
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suz9601

I am in zone 6 in Missouri. Thanks for your reply.

    Bookmark   February 10, 2015 at 11:03AM
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

suz, if you'd like your zone to be visible after your name, go in your profile and hit "edit". Then go to the line that says "first name" and make the zone part of your name and submit. That way it will show up each time you post. Ingrid

    Bookmark   Thanked by suz9601    February 10, 2015 at 4:13PM
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jasminerose4u, California(9b)

As per this webpage Reasons For Rose Leaves Turning Yellow, "Sometimes the rose’s foliage can be burned by either too much granular fertilizer of foliar feeding (Miracle Gro) and it will burn the foliage such that it will turn yellow in places and fall off". Are the roses young? If so, Kim Rupert recommended feeding weekly, weakly. Here's the link to the old thread that might be useful: Feeding-weekly-weakly (Hey, being able to post two links in one post is kinda cool)!

    Bookmark   February 10, 2015 at 2:45PM
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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida 9a)

Has anyone received their DA orders yet? I am in FL so it says Jan/Feb for my zone. I called and they said sometime next week. I think I called on Friday -so this week sometime, *maybe* lol. I am really excited but I still need to go get some more pots.

For those of you who have received bare root roses from DA in the past, how large of a pot do they need to just start out in? I can always bump up the pot size later and I might put some in the ground once I figure out what conditions each one wants in my yard (shade/sun etc) and get some more beds tilled this spring.

    Bookmark   February 10, 2015 at 9:22AM
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Sow_what? Southern California Inland

Jasmine, I've planted ours in 5-gal nursery pots, but if your weather gets real hot, give the black pot some protection so you don't cook the roots.

Have fun!

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    Bookmark   February 10, 2015 at 9:44AM
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jasminerose4u, California(9b)

Rogue Valley Roses has it too, but it's a band. I purchased from High Country Roses and Rogue Valley and was happy with both growers.

Gartendirektor Otto Linne at Rogue Valley Roses

    Bookmark   February 9, 2015 at 1:32PM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

The small size might be scary but she grows fast even from a band size.

    Bookmark   February 9, 2015 at 2:41PM
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ameri2nal

I would not call David Austin roses "easy" to grow. Easy to me, means you don't have to spray them.

There are at least 2 varieties of the Easy Elegance roses that are nicely fragrant. I grow both of them. Neither are Red, though.
Kiss me- Pink
and
Sweet Fragrance- Apricot.
It is supossed to be a non spray rose, but I spray all of mine anyway.
Here is a pictue of Sweet Fragrance (The apricrot rose in the foreground)- It is one of my all time favorites because it blooms constantly and grows to 3-4 feet tall on neat well proportioned bushes with beautiful shiny leaves. Fragrance is a 7 out of 10. Not bad for easy care!

    Bookmark   February 8, 2015 at 9:56PM
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ratdogheads(5b NH)

My Kashmirs are huge, 5' tall, first year own root plants. Love em, but not low!

Prolific, hardy, fragrant, compact, shade tolerant is a tall order.

My Iceberg roses tolerate afternoon sun and still bloom a lot. Sorry, not fragrant.

Sweet Fragrance is lovely, may have to give that a try.

    Bookmark   February 9, 2015 at 5:41AM
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ameri2nal

Heres my take on fragrant reds that I grow or have grown-

Papa Meilland- The best way to grow this is in a tightly planted group of 3, planted 1 foot or less apart. The branches are brittle and they will sometimes break in the wind. The bushes are awkward looking and mishapen when planted as single specimens, but the 3 together look pretty good. The scent is intense. On any given day, this could be the most fragrant.

Mr Lincoln- grows tall and throws off some very large flowers, along with some weirdly long canes. Like its brother Papa M, On any given day it could be the most fragrant rose.

Chrysler Imperial- Short, intense fragrance, not as winter hardy or as vigorous as the others.

Velvet Fragrance- Strong scent, good repeat, neat growth habit.

Firefighter- Grows taller and relatively narrow. Intense scent, good repeat. Could be the strongest.

Crimson Glory- Short ( I grow it ownroot) with nodding blooms, excellent repeat, Intense scent could be the strongest on any given day. I'm not a fan of blooms that point down.

Rouge Royal- Longest life in the vase, horrible if you let the flower open on the plant. You must cut every bloom off if you want to enjoy this plant, otherwise they open malformed with rot. Intence scent unlike the others, could be the strongest. This is not a true red, as it has purple tones.

Barcelona- Week bush, small blooms that get thrippy, intense scent.

Alec's Red- Has a lot of Pink, but still considered Red. Fantastic repeater, compact bush, intense scent, but just a half grade less intense than some of the others. One of my favorites.

Lasting Love- On the first flush, it's mostly one to a stem blooms, on later flushes it is more of a floribunda. Intense scent, could be the strongest. Good repeat, shorter, compact growth habit.

Oklahoma- Tall but not vigorous. I have tried 2x with this and they just never seem to like my garden. Slow repeat, but intense fragrance, could be the strongest.

I know I'm calling several of them the most fragrant, but on any given day, it changes.

    Bookmark   February 8, 2015 at 10:40PM
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kittymoonbeam

In my mild area by Disneyland Papa M is large but I don't try to keep this rose small. I heard it is a weak grower but I think it is just a slower grower than some others. The bigger the plant, the more roses it has made. It continues to flower all year. The shape of the plant is open and tall. I have it in back tied to a few stakes to keep it from encroaching on other plants or breaking in the wind.

    Bookmark   February 9, 2015 at 1:33AM
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Mendocino_Rose(z8 N CA.)

I love roses any way I can get them. Those Angel's Parasol Hydrangeas are so beautiful!

    Bookmark   February 8, 2015 at 8:27AM
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kittymoonbeam

I always have a posy of Hermosa roses and violets for Valentines Day. I have my eye on some Bolero buds but we'll see what happens. I bought a few branches of flowering cherry at a local New Years festival and they seem romantic to me. Abe Darby bloomed the other day so I wonder if any roses besides Hermosa will bloom on the 14th. Halftime managed a flower for Superbowl Sunday.

    Bookmark   February 9, 2015 at 1:25AM
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ameri2nal

We love our Jude here in Chicagoland Too! Smells like Grapefruit to me.

    Bookmark   February 8, 2015 at 10:07PM
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ameri2nal

We love our Jude here in Chicagoland Too! Smells like Grapefruit to me.

    Bookmark   February 8, 2015 at 10:08PM
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plantloverkat north Houston(zone 9a)

High Country Roses has it listed as being in stock. They are a reputable nursery that sells own root band sized plants through mail order. If you click on the "description" tab on the link below, it will tell more information about this rose.

Here is a link that might be useful: Rosa canina

    Bookmark   February 8, 2015 at 9:29PM
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Tessiess, SoCal Inland, 9b, 1272' elev

I have Rosa canina 'Laxa' from Greenmantle Nursery in California. Wonderful healthy rose in my garden. Very, very vigorous. Fairly drought tolerant. Needs little care (I rarely bother to feed it anything). Although a once bloomer, it flowers over a long period. Produces lots of flowers and sets hundreds upon hundreds of hips. They are quite tasty once ripe (tasteless when green). I eventually will remember to try making tea with these hips, which are supposed to be high in vitamin c.

Greenmantle is own-root only and takes orders either over the phone or by snail mail. They have a nice website, but orders cannot be placed on it. An old-fashioned establishment. Highly recommended.

High Country Roses also is a good source for roses.

Melissa

Here is a link that might be useful: Greenmantle Nursery roses

    Bookmark   February 8, 2015 at 10:07PM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

I would agree with a few others about Frederic Mistral--its strong and lovely scent, plus vase life make it my best rose for a bouquet. But it does get big--for me, about seven plus feet tall, and six feet wide. Too bad my problematic rose, Caramel Antique doesn't have a scent to speak of because it lasts forever in a vase for me (it's a florist rose). I think it must mummify! It's also the deers' favorite candy and produces just a few blooms per season. Golden Celebration is a very lasting and good smelling Austin for me. Evelyn does well, too. Diane

    Bookmark   January 14, 2015 at 2:41PM
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ameri2nal

1) Peter Mayle- Very Fragrant, very long lasting, very Pink
2) Rouge Royal- Ditto except for the color- Deep Purplish Red.
Here's Peter Mayle- Grows tall and narrow.

    Bookmark   February 8, 2015 at 10:03PM
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ameri2nal

I've grown a couple of different Oklahomas with no success. I loved the fragrance, but the plants have always been weak. The fact that this is an ownroot plant worries me, as many of the Hybrid Teas that I have grown ownroot have been similarly weak. Around here, many Hybrid Teas are more vigorous when grafted.
I have had good success with Papa Meilland (own root), and Mr Lincoln (grafted), and Firefighter (both own root and grafted. All three are tall, and powerfully fragrant. But if you want a short, fragrant, Red climber, I have read good things about Don Juan. I have not grown it myself.
It would be good for you to talk to some rose growers in your area, as that seems to be a major factor regarding success. Certain varieties do better in certain climes.
Good luck with the Oklahoma, it really does smell terrific!

    Bookmark   February 8, 2015 at 9:38PM
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the_bustopher z6 MO

Does Royal William do well in your area? You might have a look at that one.

    Bookmark   February 8, 2015 at 9:50PM
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treehugger101

I vote for Heirloom, too, along with Blue Moon for fragrance and gorgeous lavender blooms. But Blue Moon does lose all of its leaves for about 2 weeks a year. Still blooms like crazy though.

    Bookmark   February 8, 2015 at 6:11PM
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Jim_in_AV

For me, World War II Memorial was a blooming machine.

    Bookmark   February 8, 2015 at 7:06PM
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bethnorcal9

Erasmus, if your rose is a small own-root I suppose it might not look totally true with the first few blooms. I know some of my little own-roots I got from Cliff a few yrs ago did not bloom true til the plants got bigger. But your bloom doesn't have the ruffled form, and the pointy tips on the petal edges are not typical of BB. Hopefully in the subsequent bloomings if it is BB, it will start looking more like it. I guess it'll just be a waiting game.

    Bookmark   February 7, 2015 at 10:13PM
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erasmus_gw

Thanks, Beth. If it's not BB I hope I can identify what I've got. BB seems like it should be more widely available.

    Bookmark   February 8, 2015 at 9:18AM
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seil zone 6b MI

If they are small bands that you're trying to grow up then yes, disbudding will help them to root and grow quicker. If they are larger bare roots or potted roses I don't think it matters. I do think you should let one bloom to make sure you have the correct rose. Even very good nurseries can make a mistake now and then.

    Bookmark   February 7, 2015 at 11:28PM
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fireballsocal

Thanks all. Ken, this is one of 5 palatine bare root plants that I planted several months ago. The root systems were robust so it sounds like it won't be too beneficial to remove the buds.

    Bookmark   February 8, 2015 at 12:27AM
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