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I don't think that posts move forward when someone posts, but I will try. I also live outside of Tulsa, and have taught most of my life in a large high school. I have been writing down names of local gardening services as I see them go through the neighborhood. Kids do not want to work in the dirt, and they do not want to be seen in a yard or taking directions from a female. I think they are more than likely awkward with the tools and machines, and not bonded or insured.
I retired a year ago, and have made preparations for a suitable garden for me. It may be more costly to pay a crew, but they would be doing work that they always do. Kids today are often in school, in competitive sports, or in other ways very busy. Gardening is dirty. Loading cement or dirt at Lowe's is a man's job, and a good way to build muscle.
Good luck.
Sammy

loved the flowers of 'Pure Perfume', really wonderful. Terrible rust, though. Had to get rid of it. A shame that the marketing people at J&P know nothing about roses. They will end up losing customers in the long run. If they really were serious they would recommend roses by region. Short term profits are all that matter these days.

That Pure Perfume does look very nice and it's nice to hear that it does have some fragrance, even if paler than billed. Shame about the rust, but it's sadly not something on the radar screen of many companies that say "disease resistant". For me, it's not an issue, but I know it is in much of the US west.
Cynthia

What about Honeymoon? I am getting one in the mail next week.
I take it back, I had to cancel my order today. The nursery is out of 3 of 4 roses I ordered. It's too expensive for me to just order one rose band with the high cost shipping. I will order one next year with other roses. :-)

The Floral Fairy Tale, Cream Flower Circus, and Elegant Fairy Tale are light apricot that fade to cream, and they are quite compact (3' in my zone). Also, Lion's Fairy Tale is mostly cream for me and a large and pretty profuse bloomer. They're all heavy bloomers, reliably hardy in our zone 5, and supposed to be at least somewhat fragrant. They might be, but I can rarely smell most roses. As far as I can tell they last 5-7 days on the bush, but I don't tend to cut them so I can't tell in the house. The full petaled ones tend to be a little less long lasting in general.
Here are photos of three of them:
Floral Fairy Tale

Cream Flower Circus

Lion's Fairy Tale (mine was sold as Champagne Moment). It's usually on the pinkish side, but here it is last month in a white mood:

Summer Memories is also a nice clean white and it has survived in the zone 4 pocket of my yard just fine. The photo is a little blurry, but the color is pretty true to life.

Hope this helps!
Cynthia

jkelly, I'm in the same zone as you but we don't get enough heat to ripen melons, However, my compost provides me with a small crop of potatoes every year which I cherish. I also get tomatoes in the areas where I put my compost, not a lot but I am thrilled with each gift that it sends my way.
Jane



Adrian, have you thought about perhaps trying some of the older roses that do well in warm climates, like Chinas, Teas, Noisettes, etc? There are also some roses bred by Girija and Viru Viraraghavan in India, with the aim of doing well in tropical climates. Some of his roses are available in the US, notably through Roses Unlimited and Rose Petals Nursery.
:-)
~Christopher

Chris, Wow, that was a huge change in your life from Animal Science, crop classes to Psychology. :-) Good for you! Always want to take some crop, and metal art classes. metal art goes with garden design....... thanks for the info on the grape rot. I got some help on the fruit forum, and I found out sulfur can be used to treat black rot. I use sulfur mix with dish soap for BS and PM when the weather is cool, didn't know that could be used on grapes too. I grow grapes on gazebos (roofs), I have to re-think about this garden design, they'd need more air flow. Thinking about to let rambler roses( Ghislaine de Feligonde and Malvern Hills) cover the big gazebo roof (15-16' tall), and keep the grapes up to 8'......

Henry,
Right now all I have access to is the search engine, no papers. And our ag library shelves are closed for the summer while they change the library to less library space. So...no, I'm sorry I can't do this with Google scholar. Unlike you, I don't have any answer to the question I asked you.
Rest assured, I wouldn't intentially waste your time. And won't in the future.

From EPA document:
"Based on current toxicological data and predicted exposure levels for the new crop uses, tebuconazole is not expected to pose significant acute risk to fish, aquatic invertebrates,
aquatic plants, birds and small mammals. However, there is potential for chronic risk to
freshwater fish, marine fish and marine invertebrates from proposed uses on turf at 1.4 Ibs
ai/A. Though acute risk to birds is not predicted, there is a potential chronic risk to birds that
feed primarily on vegetation (short and tall grass and foliage) or insects resulting from all of
the proposed new multiple application uses of tebuconazole. Since tebuconazole is persistent
(T,,2=800 days) and has high affinity (K,,=906 to 1251ml/g) for soil sorption, it is likely to adhere
to soil particles and may move from the application site on entrained sediments in runoff waters.
The table below provides a simplified look at tebuconazole risk to non-target organisms for
proposed uses."


Queen of Sweden is looking good msdorkgirl!

Thanks again. Just have to wait and see what it grows up to be when mature. Most of the seedlings I have grown didn't make it past a year or two. I don't baby them so only the strong survive.
This is just a fun hobby for me. I am not trying to breed the next new rose. It does give me new respct for those who are serious abou this.
I measured the bloom and it is 2" across.











Looks like heat plus insect damage to me. If it's Japanese beetles, they'll be gone very soon.
:-/
~Christopher