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Adrian, have you thought about perhaps trying some of the older roses that do well in warm climates, like Chinas, Teas, Noisettes, etc? There are also some roses bred by Girija and Viru Viraraghavan in India, with the aim of doing well in tropical climates. Some of his roses are available in the US, notably through Roses Unlimited and Rose Petals Nursery.

:-)

~Christopher

Chris, Wow, that was a huge change in your life from Animal Science, crop classes to Psychology. :-) Good for you! Always want to take some crop, and metal art classes. metal art goes with garden design....... thanks for the info on the grape rot. I got some help on the fruit forum, and I found out sulfur can be used to treat black rot. I use sulfur mix with dish soap for BS and PM when the weather is cool, didn't know that could be used on grapes too. I grow grapes on gazebos (roofs), I have to re-think about this garden design, they'd need more air flow. Thinking about to let rambler roses( Ghislaine de Feligonde and Malvern Hills) cover the big gazebo roof (15-16' tall), and keep the grapes up to 8'......

Henry,

Right now all I have access to is the search engine, no papers. And our ag library shelves are closed for the summer while they change the library to less library space. So...no, I'm sorry I can't do this with Google scholar. Unlike you, I don't have any answer to the question I asked you.

Rest assured, I wouldn't intentially waste your time. And won't in the future.

Ann, I was suggesting Google, not Google Scholar. Regarding your statement: " Unlike you, I don't have any answer to the question I asked you."

I do not see what your question has to do with the topic so I do know what specific information you would like..

Thank you, Michael, for your sensible information.

From EPA document:

https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&authuser=0&gws_rd=ssl#newwindow=1&hl=en&authuser=0&q=+tebuconazole+birds

"Based on current toxicological data and predicted exposure levels for the new crop uses, tebuconazole is not expected to pose significant acute risk to fish, aquatic invertebrates,

aquatic plants, birds and small mammals. However, there is potential for chronic risk to

freshwater fish, marine fish and marine invertebrates from proposed uses on turf at 1.4 Ibs

ai/A. Though acute risk to birds is not predicted, there is a potential chronic risk to birds that

feed primarily on vegetation (short and tall grass and foliage) or insects resulting from all of

the proposed new multiple application uses of tebuconazole. Since tebuconazole is persistent

(T,,2=800 days) and has high affinity (K,,=906 to 1251ml/g) for soil sorption, it is likely to adhere

to soil particles and may move from the application site on entrained sediments in runoff waters.

The table below provides a simplified look at tebuconazole risk to non-target organisms for

proposed uses."

Wow that Vision is very vigorous and would take my breath away.

Thank you everyone for posting your pics.

Here's my first bloom on 1st year Queen of Sweden (2.5") --- is it usually a spray or can I look forward to some singular stems after a while?

Queen of Sweden is looking good msdorkgirl!

Wow! Super sweet!!

Thanks again. Just have to wait and see what it grows up to be when mature. Most of the seedlings I have grown didn't make it past a year or two. I don't baby them so only the strong survive.

This is just a fun hobby for me. I am not trying to breed the next new rose. It does give me new respct for those who are serious abou this.

I measured the bloom and it is 2" across.

People who worry too much about their plants sometimes hurt their plants by trying to fix them when they don't need any fixing :)

nat, I pulled a bunch of similar looking leaves off of my roses this morning. The older leaves will get yucky at some point. That's why you deadhead and groom roses. The new growth will come in and look better. These are baby bands and you can't expect them to look perfect all the time.

Interesting! I thought for sure it was canker, but glad to hear it isn't. Regardless, I cut the cane to the crown because it was slowly spreading up & the leaves about the brown part were not looking like they should. Also the bud eye nearest the crown, under the brown, looked like a pimple - red & inflamed. It hurt to make the cut since there was a nice cluster of buds that would've looked gorgeous in about a week, but better to have lost something temporary than keep it & cause more damage!

I felt much better about it when my husband came home with "Above & Beyond," which he picked up at our local nursery today ;)

Nicole - it could well be canker for all I know - that word gets used pretty broadly for a lot of conditions. For me, it's enough to say the canes were damaged and the damage was spreading, and that's clearly enough to recommend trimming those off and sacrificing those lovely blooms. Enjoy your new baby and we'll expect "toddler" pictures in a year or so.

Cynthia

Why can't we outsource the RRD research job to China/oth country since we don't have the money to do it ourselves? We need to save our roses.....

Ann - thanks so much for pointing us to your chapters! I've kept up with your postings on RRD faithfully to be able to recognize it when it would (inevitably) show up near me, but I didn't realize some of the first sitings were in Nebraska. I didn't know there was a cold breeding of roses in North Platte Nebraska, and Viehmeyer roses don't seem to have become commercial if they were successful. Perhaps RRD derailed the process for him. It's a shame that Morden was an early susceptible site too, given how important those roses have become for cold zone rose gardeners.

I appreciate the heads-up, and I'm doubly grateful that I've never seen anything of the sort show up in my garden or other roses I see around town. I appreciate the work you continually do to educate us all about this scourge, Ann.

Cynthia

I can just see the head lines in the local newspaper now....Crazy woman seen running around her yard, striping off her cloths while yelling, get it off, get it off......

Hahaha

Donnann, your bee balm garden was absolutely gorgeous! thank you so much for posting and am really looking forward to when it fully recovers, just like I hope the honeybees will someday come back to my Dad's garden... Sadly as Dr. Amrine says it can take a very long time for bees to return once they're gone... He says there are sections in Virginia in which there haven't been any honeybees for over 10 years... And I think that is why we should try not! to use insecticides like Sevin that are highly toxic to bees.

Iluvgardens, here is the link for everyone to watch that you provided... I am so glad you and my BF mentioned it to me so that I could watch online since I missed the show...

video on the disappearance of our bees

Again, the show and PBS' site urges everyone to consider trying to go pesticide-free...whereas my stance is try to stop Sevin... PBS says "And of course keep your bee garden free of pesticides a danger in any garden. Some pesticides can kill the bee before it returns to the hive; other pesticides get carried back and can harm the rest of the hive." Sevin is exactly! the kind of pesticide/"arsenic" that gets carried back to the hive. Even our own forumers inadvertently admitted that Sevin was the only thing to completely destroy the wasps and their hives----Likewise Sevin wipes out honeybees in THIS EXACT SAME WAY.!

Here is PBS' link which is called how you can help the bees

Again, I'm praying that everyone really reconsiders Sevin and its impact on our bees...If we just do this little thing, we can make a tremendous difference.

Serena

I just posted an inquiry about using Sevin for Jap Beetles and then I saw your post. I'm so sorry to hear your inadvertent loss of your Dad's bee population. I won't even spray the Carpenter Bees when they're feeding on the bee balm. Your loss and post will benefit many others from making the same mistake. I've been spraying a little Raid when the beetles are devouring my roses. But, will need to re-think my JB treatment for next year.

I have been so blessed this year with butterflies (mostly swallowtails) in my newly estabilshed garden. It's magical to walk outside and you're just surrounded by the butterflies everywhere. I've got buttonbush blooming by the large pond and the butterflies are in heaven. In the front I have mostly echinachea and a couple of butterfly bushes.

So the moral of the story is to attract lots of birds.

Thanks for your post.

Donna in Fredericksburg, VA

Sutekesh, I think that's IT. I had tried to id her by going thru palatines offerings....and you are right. Thank you so much.

Glad to have been able to help!

Sharlene

You might try a light with a motion sensor on it. Don't know if this is an are you have electric available :), but the sudden light helps deter the critters.

Hi, Diane! here's the first thing on Internet when I search for "badger damage prevention" http://www.downgardenservices.org.uk/badgers.htm However, as you can see if this address works as a link (if not, hopefully you can "cut and paste" to view it),this is the European badger, Meles meles that I would be dealing with. Dingo2001,I did see a battery-operated device, but fear that the cost would end up being excessive:since the area to be protected is so large,I would need several,and there's no guarentte that they'd even work. The aa sulphate stuff cost me 30 euros , shipping included,so if it proves useless, it's not a huge loss. Thanks for the tip, vasue!

I wouldn't cut it down to the graft. I would half all the green stems and give the rose at least the amended soil.

The best time for really severe pruning is at the end of winter. If you try that now, the bugs or bunnies may get all the new growth, and kill the plant. In my experience, roses regenerate just fine if you take out one or two of the oldest canes, and let the plant replace them with new ones. If it gets too close to winter, the new growth will be very tender, and won't survive winter unless carefully protected. I have protected new growth successfully by burying basal breaks in lots of soil.