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Canina hasn't really been used as a root stock in the uk for a long time. It is possible that it was rootstock, one of the gardens down the road from me has standard roses on a thorny rootstock, (I can tell because I wince at the suckers everytime I walk past the house!) but more likely it's a birdsown wildling - I have one growing up through a rhododendron, and I like the effect, so it stays.
Given that you say it's got ambitions to colonise the path already, I suspect that might be a checkmark in the remove column, given the increased light, food, water that comes with you actively tending the garden, it's likely to get more and more octopus-y as time goes on.
I hope to fill my rose garden with highly fragrant roses. I have several rose bushes, but my fragrant ones are Intrigue, Tiffany, Double Delight, Dark Desire, Abe Darby, Blue For You, Sheila's Prfume, and Fragrant Cloud all of which I love. But the two that I love the most in smell alone is Sharifa Asma and Quiteness. Both of these are also beautiful, but I can't get enough of the smell. I can just stand in the garden and feel intoxicated. They are wonderful. However, SA isn't doing so well, as some kind of root mats is over taking it. I hope to find another.
I bought most of my roses (before Cool Roses had their sale) either online, or as a bare root plant from a box store. In my stupidity I didn't realize that all roses didn't smell the same. I thought a rose had a rose fragrance. But the day that I opened up my shipment from Chamblee's and Sharifa Asma had a tiny little bloom that engulfed the entire room.... I said I need to be paying more attention to the fragrance. I was so happy to find Cool Roses so that now I can get a 'whiff' before I purchase. I think it is imperative because I had my eye on a couple that I thought I would love only to find out that I didn't like how they smelled. Just like some people don't like the Myrrh scent I found out that I abhor the Tea scent.
Now I need to figure out what Damask smells like.
I agree with all the previous comments, and while you can prune to encourage a rose to bush out more, yours already look fairly nicely branched on the lower canes. Ch-ching does have that tall cane sprouting out, but it looks like they really want to bloom on higher bushes in your zone than the 3' you're targeting. Most hybrid teas prefer to bloom at 4-5' in warmer zones, and pruning them lower might get bushier branches but not necessarily blooms that stay at those heights. However, it's worth a try since you couldn't move them in California till winter months anyway. Just remember that wherever you prune a cane is where it STARTS to bush out from, so don't expect it to stay at the pruned height. In fact, pruning right at 3' would probably have it forming a "candelabra" effect from that 3' height and have an even bigger clump of canes shooting up to its preferred height.
Cynthia
I've had that rose for quite a few years ... just this year it's doing all these different flowers I've never seen before...I shouldn't be so surprised about the plsnts in my yard anymore... I own my late grandmother's house which has been in the family since it was built in 1950's. I've seen many odd plants over the years. Including my heirloom naturally cross bred pink and yellow 4 o'clock seeds. :) 
For me spray painting was a disaster. Even the paint that says it is for plastic scrapes off. I spray painted some pots last year and they look terrible. Every time something bumps up against them they scratch. I'm threatening to take sandpaper to them and get the paint all off.
Pictures, please. If none available, then we need many more details on the condition of the plants, including color of the leaves and stems, and how you have been fertilizing and watering. Also, are these plants in the ground or in pots? Do you know the names of the varieties or can you describe the blooms? How long have they been planted?
"...extremely neglected" is the key. In very hot weather, deep watering is critical for rose survival.
The rose is capable of producing new shoots directly from the graft swelling or bud union.
There needs to be a bud eye below the cut or the pruned cane will not be able to grow. Usually the first eye is a few inches above the graft. It is a pimple with a ridge underneath curved like a smile, where a leaf stem used to be attached.. If there is no bud eye on a cane, you can just take it down to near the graft.
If you cut some too close to the bud and the cane is damaged or bruise, it will just grow from the next closest bud (just below). You may get a little die back from the ends, but you can cut those off later. You should just leave it for now. If you keep pruning them back in order to get perfect cuts, you'll just be making it harder for them to bounce back.
Just let them be and they'll keep growing. Michael is right, they are tougher than we think. Much tougher than most plants actually.
I am Christopher's Facebook friend. I planted a bare root Albrighton Rambler in (I think) January of this year. Considering its youth, it has already produced quite a few flower clusters. The longest canes as of July are about 7 feet long. It looks totally healthy, in spite of the fact that I've never sprayed it, and I live in a moist, coastal climate. The flowers are small, but packed with petals - kind of reminds me of a miniature version of Souvenir de la Malmaison. No fragrance, to speak of. I'm hoping that it will get a little bigger than the 12' prediction in the catalog because I want to train it along the base of an upstairs balcony. The color is not very dazzling - starts out as a kind of washed out pinkish buff color, and matures to light pink. I am pleased with it so far, but I will have a better evaluation in a couple of years.
Oh yes!! The Japanese garden is fabulous in fall and winter!!! I believe the Chinese garden downtown is open through all seasons as well. I looked at the Rose test garden website to check for you and it seems like they leave the roses un-pruned through October, but that doesn't guarantee they will be flowering nicely. It's free and you can just park and pop out to see it. So, if there are roses, great, if no, no big loss. There is also a lovely, small neighborhood rose garden in Ladd's Addition that is a nice hidden gem
I have Amber Queen in its second year now, and I'm quite liking it. It is a short bloomer, but has cheerful open blooms in a nicely dark gold-amber color that draws the eye. It survived the winter without particular problems, though no surviving cane in zone5. Mine is from Roses Unlimited, and I'll bet Pat would have one of these to save for next spring for you.
Cynthia
In my experience growing rugosa roses the bottom leaves often turn yellow and fall off with age. I have never worried about that. The flowers only last a few days on the rugosas, once they are done the petals wilt and rose hips usually form. Perhaps your soil is a bit dry and they need to be watered especially if these are first year roses. They are tough. I am not sure where you live so cannot comment much further. I would pick off the spent blooms and the ones that are dying and dispose of them. If it is an insect then you will take the insect off with the old dried bloom.
Good luck.
Valerie
Any chance you could continue the trellising around the back of the steps, or around & onto the back wall, so the rose might have more room to stretch? If you could wrap the trellising past the steps onto the back wall, you might plant the climber on the corner. Nice trellis job!
Kittymoonbeam, I didn't find this out about MAC until after I had purchased her, but after reading more on her I think she's just too big for my property, I just don't have that kind of space... I really do like the idea of heritage or a pale shell pink and / or a white rose on this wall, mixed with the a soft blueish lavender clematis... Although I do love yellow & apricot .... Further up the path to the right of this bed there will be a lady Hillingdon climber on the section of wall behind my fireplace, so I can't decide if I like or dislike the idea having another climber of the same color family on that same wall, even though it is not right next to it..
Christopher, thanks for the advice! I just always see photos of crepuscule looking incredibly bushy, But I guess that is just how those people decided to grow it! If I can keep it within 3-4 feet of the wall, looking fairly neat then I might try that one, the photo on HMF of it at Mottisfont is beautiful, the good thing about crepuscule is that it grows fairly fast, at least this one has. I'm just torn on which color scheme I would rather have.
Vesuve, thank you! I did think about having him wrap the trellis to the other side, the thig is that side of the house does not get much sun at all, until the late afternoon, so I don't know how happy a rose would be over on at side.. But I did want to wrap it at least a little just in case.
"Southlake is removing and replacing more than 5,400 rosebushes in medians and parks because of the disease. Costs could reach $500,000, city officials have said."
So, $100 per bush? Calm down princess. And yes, replace them with something else.
I guess they are factoring the cost of not just the rose, but paying someone to plant them and probably the cost of adding amendments to the soil as well. I think they feel like they cannot be without roses so they'd rather replace them. But there has to be some sort of variety that is perhaps resistant? Replacing them with the same varieties seems futile.