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seil zone 6b MI

Oh, Gary, the $64,000.00 question! I've seen Paul Zimmerman's video and he uses two shovels to pick up the ball and move it but he takes a rather small root ball in my opinion. I just try to pick it up as best I can and put it either on a tarp or in a wheel barrow to make the move.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 5:02PM
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Gary(USDA ZONE = 9b SUNSET ZONE = 18 (Riverside, CA, USA))

I'll use the two-shovel method.

When I'm replanting the roses in their new locations, should the bud unions be above, below or at the soil level? (The bud unions of some of the roses were below the soil level when I dug them out of the ground and some of the roses have growth from the Dr. Huey rootstocks).

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 5:49PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Cynthia, I think you might get more response over on Antiques. They're really good at IDs even if it's a modern rose.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 5:03PM
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Kayla

So they will germinate and start coming out of the soil in the fridge? I was just going to take them out after 3 months but i guess I will keep an eye on them to see if they germinate early. I will do the paper towel method next time.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 7:17AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Mine usually do germinate in the fridge but as I said I use the paper towel method. If they don't germinate in there than I would indeed take them out after the 3 months and put them in a warm and well lit area.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 4:59PM
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lennon2(6b - Providence, RI)


Michaelg, I don't think there's a swelling at the base of this twinned base -- if there is, it's to the left, where there's a wide place. There is new growth from this base.

Are you suggesting severe pruning?
It rebloomed, but If I were to replace it, I'd prefer fulltime blooming.

Alt-replacement idea: Deep red. American wisteria is on the other side of that arbor.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 8:49AM
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seil zone 6b MI

I hesitate to say a hard pruning because I killed my Dublin Bay that way. I blew up your photo and I do see some growth here and there up the canes. I would suggest you start at the tips and clip off a piece looking for a good clear and moist greenish white center and work you way down removing only the wood that isn't healthy. Then wait a bit. It hasn't really been all that warm for very long and it might just need some extended warmth to kick start it. We have just come out of two successive bad winters and a lot of roses are sort of in shock I think.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 4:53PM Thanked by lennon2
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madri_gw(5)

These are the pictures of my charisma. Very cold hardy in my area and a lovely bush.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 9:37AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Yes, I think it's Charisma too.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 4:45PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Oh so sorry to hear this, Vickie! Yes, cut off any dead growth and water, Water, WATER it. You need to wash the plant thoroughly and flush the soil. Don't fertilize it either. Just keep it watered and be patient. It should recover.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 4:40PM
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joopster

Wayside Garden website 10% off code: FABWG.

Also, DA website 10% off code: BHG14. Just ordered Gertrude Jekyll potted rose from them and the code works.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 10:15AM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Joopster and Seil, I usually specify on my DA order when I want my bareroots delivered (late March/early April). They always follow my directions. So maybe next time put down a general date and see if they come through more promptly for you.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 3:45PM
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nikthegreek(9b/10a E of Athens, Greece)

If you feel you need to spray with a miticide, try something with the active ingredient abamectin. There are other miticides on the market, some are specialized so you need to know for sure which mite you're spraying against. Not all are advisable for roses due to the potential for tissue damage. Spray in the evening twice with 10-14 days between applications (or follow the label). If temps do not regularly exceed 83F you can mix that with light summer horticultural oil in the first application. Oil will destroy the eggs. Spray on the canes also. Always do a test spray to make sure you have no tissue damage.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2015 at 11:34PM Thanked by scstieglitz
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scstieglitz

Hmm well I think I will still try to not spray pesticides and endeavor to find a natural way that works in high heat and humidity to remove the mites. Thank you truly for the idea though!

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 1:58PM
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dan8_gw (Northern California Zone 9A)

Beautiful pinks Sara!

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 8:54AM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Thanks again everyone for the nice comments.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 1:44PM
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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

RU will not spread through the roots. But if you are applying that close to other roses, either use a paint brush or sponge (it's best to use the undiluted RU for this) or use a blocker when you spray. You can use a piece of cardboard or plastic to block any spray from getting on surrounding plants.

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summersrhythm_z6a

Thanks for the tip, I will try RU later. :-)

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 10:07AM
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countrygirl_sc, elev 1016(7a SC)

Are you sure it is RRD? Since they are outside the neighborhood, could someone have used Roundup near them? The symptoms are very similar and Roundup can drift about 30 feet when sprayed....I learned the hard way when I first started growing roses.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 8:57AM
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summersrhythm_z6a

Whatever you do, forget about using Sevin, it's too strong, not a good thing after all. I just want to mention that.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 9:11AM
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seil zone 6b MI

I prefer plastic or resin pots because they weigh so much less. Even if you never think you'll have to move it, trust me, you will, lol! I also prefer lighter colors. The darker colors get hotter and in a hot zone like yours might not be so good for the roots. I have some minis in pots that are maybe a foot tall and wide and then some in pots more than twice that size. It depends on the mini. I'm not familiar with Crazy Dottie so I'm not sure how big it might eventually get.

However, do not put the tiny band right up into a big pot to start with. Depending on how big it looks and how full that 4 inch pot is when you get it, I would suggest you start it out in a 1 gallon pot first and grow it up in size before putting it into a full size pot. I've found they seem to do better that way.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2015 at 3:03PM Thanked by drizzle530
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drizzle530(Zone 9, NorCal)

Thanks again for the great info! I am really looking forward to receiving and growing [hopefully!] this rose! Will keep in mind the lighter weight and color container when I head out to select the perfect pot for it :)

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 8:29AM
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bluegirl_gw

Cindi, Countrygirl-sc, I clicked "follow" for y'all.
Sultryjasminenights, Bluehaven--gorgeous photos! Looks like your little plants are happy. Bet they love getting out of the desert :D

    Bookmark     May 11, 2015 at 6:00PM
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countrygirl_sc, elev 1016(7a SC)

I sent you a list of a few roses that you may be interested in. Please let me know if you received it.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 4:43AM
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Marigold33

Thanks, that give me hope Buford_NE!

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 4:02AM
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zack_lau z6 CT

Grande Amore seems to have better disease resistance than most red HTs. It wants to be 4 ft wide and 5 ft tall.

1 Like    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 4:25AM Thanked by Marigold33
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