22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

I hope all your babies surprise you and come back strong! It is heartbreaking to lose those rare beauties. Good luck and do keep us posted on how they're doing.

You sure worked hard, trying to save them!!! Great job!!! That was quite the ordeal for you.

Carol

Have a little patience. It will grow into a nice strong plant for you and will be the rose you wanted and not some substitute climber just because it's big. I think you'll be surprised at how fast those tiny guys can grow!

I got a small Jasmina like a rose band from Edmunds last month, I thought I was ordering a bare root. I am glad to hear Jasmina grows fast. Chris, would you please post some photos when it's in bloom? Thanks

I think it's time that we should cool down. Take a step back and remember to be kind to each other.

We should remember that on the other end of a posted message is a human being and the ways we say things may hurt someone's feeling no matter how right we think we are. We share the knowledge of what we know and let people make their own judgments of what will work best for them. I feel confident that we are "old" enough to make that call.

I concur Bayarea. My sentiments were intended to parallel yours. Henry, I am not in disagreement with your points and your story resonates with all of us, I'm sure. Buford, I see your point completely. The transmission of RRD is a serious matter as are the effects of the usage of dangerous chemicals.

lol @ jkellydallas. Trust me, most of us have those holes in our garden.

Oh Sara Ann, your roses are looking so great!!!

I do wish for large roses since it is hard to grow them that large in my climate. But I don't think I want to tackle a huge monster no matter how beautiful. With regards to Thorns, it can't be much worst than Jude the Obscure, New Dawn, or Gertrude Jekyll.

I have a Westerland and I grow it as a shrub, in zone 9 he grows 10" every 6 weeks then blooms. His canes are 1" thick and I planted him next to a tall fence, so far he stands on his own. Pruning and training has a lot to do with growth habit.

I have a New Dawn that is about 7 feet tall on my arbor. I give it very little care and it has very little die back from winter. I live in 5b in north Mo just a few miles from southern Iowa. I have had it about 5 years maybe not sure.

Yes I do live in Canada, Laura. Well, I don't want it too overgrown therefore I will prune it shorter. I do want it to grow across my fence in the backyard. Thanks for the info everyone.

The canes are very stiff, you need to train it while the canes are still young. To me, it looks best trained on the horizontal. It is not disease (blackspot) resistant here in east central NJ.

Thanks Jasminerose & Diane for the info, nice photos! :-) I planted them against 2 trees, Hope I can tie them up to the trees later.

Kate: I really love your Jubilee photo. I just got that one this spring. I hope it looks like yours someday!

I am planning to put my JC by a bench so hopefully I will be able to enjoy the nodding flowers if it doesn't get too tall.

This is all good info! I just got Jubilee Celebration and Queen of Sweden yesterday and plan to plant them tomorrow!

Somebody will be the first, though.

Thanks so much, everyone!!! I did take a look at it again, but I didn't see *anything,* (well except for there are still aphids around...) so I don't know what to think. I will look up some thrip pictures and at least I will know what to look for. I didn't see any spider-y looking things either.

It is in a version of 5-1-1. As close as I could get to it anyhow. So, it's mostly bark chips. I may have overfertilized I suppose -- I put in Osmo Plus when I planted it and I put on fish emulsion every week or so. (Someone said the proliferation could be a sign of too much fert -- so maybe that's chewing the leaves too? I'll stop with the emulsion for a while.)

Thanks again! I really appreciate the help.

Yea I hate those critters...lol. We must have killed at least 200 hundreds last summer. I flick so many into a bowl of water that I can do it in my sleep!

The last year that I had them really bad, I filled up about 10 of the beetle bags in less than a week! I used them in conjunction with hand picking. I hope I never have them that bad again. They devastated a peach tree that was covered with huge peaches almost ready to pick in one morning! The next year I used milk jugs with the bait inside and only filled it up partially. The last few years I have only had a few. I figure I prevented millions of JB from being born.

I usually only have to water the new plants. The older plants fend for themselves, but the main bed is on drip irrigation if they need a soaking.

We had to fast moving thunderstorms yesterday which dumped some heavy rains but they didn't last to long...

Did I say any differently? Sulfate reduction during boggy conditions results in lowered pH when the soil dries up because, as you mention, the reduced sulphur gets oxidized. Indicative of boggy conditions is the rotten egg smell of hydrogen sulfide. Also, did I say any differently with regards to the ammonium or aluminum reactions?

Just trying to clarify for those interested in understanding soil reactions...

Color can be affected by the weather and culture so they may be redder or pinker depending on that. There is also a double Pink KO too so maybe that's what you're seeing.

Here, it is the cherry red that Kate describes, it is never a rich red (like Home Run). It does pink out in heat.