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redc22(9)

I live in the Bay Area and I completed pruning last week.

    Bookmark   January 24, 2015 at 10:25AM
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catspa_NoCA_Z9_Sunset14

I started pruning the day after Christmas here in Livermore, as usual. The frosts we get are not likely to be severe enough to damage roses though they will knock down unprotected, tender plants like nasturtiums and pelargoniums.

    Bookmark   January 24, 2015 at 10:33AM
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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

I second to Dandylioness style. This is also the look I am going for. I have planted a few climbers over the fence as well. I hope it will be as beautiful as the pic.

    Bookmark   January 23, 2015 at 8:55PM
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bart_2010(8/9 Italy)

IMHO, if you really want Jasmina,you ought to give it a try. On HMF, it is listed as being hardy to zone 9b. There is no "heat tolerance" rating given, but among the comments, the only thing I can see that addresses the heat tolerance issue is a comment by a poster who says that his one-year-old plant, in hot, dry, difficult soil, wasn't thrilling him. Kim responded to this by pointing out that, under these conditions, many a great rose would indeed flounder,plus, one year is just not enough time to see what a rose can do! Difficult, dry soil can be amended and mulched to improve it dramatically,btw. And, worse come to worse, you ARE in the USA, where as far as I know there are no serious problems with Rose Replant "disease",so if it winds up being totally unconvincing, replacing it with something else shouldn't be too big of a deal.
Might I ask, where did you read that this rose can't really tolerate heat ? regards, bart

    Bookmark   January 24, 2015 at 6:37AM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Hi Jean,

We must be pretty close to each other. I'm out in Hidden Springs, and just went down Hill Rd today to visit...Edward's! The pop up park was nearly ready to go (on the 24th) and looked great. I still haven't decided which roses to get from them, since I've run out of room. And now to get a new rose, I have to dig out an old one.

You will like Love Song and Twilight Zone (I hope). Edward's roses are 5 gallon and you can have them keep your advance purchases in a separate greenhouse until you are ready to pick them up. By then, they are about half grown it seems like. I think their prices are very reasonable for such huge healthy roses.

Have you ever spent time visiting their outstanding borders? Those are eye popping, free, and better than the botanical garden (I think). We hit Edward's for our entertainment often.

Good luck with your new roses.

Diane

    Bookmark   January 22, 2015 at 6:33PM
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decobug(z6a Idaho SW)

Hi Diane,

My dad's assisted living place is right near Collister, so just a mile from Edwards. It works out good :-) I was able to order Anna’s Promise, Big Momma, Dark Night, Intrigue, Love Song, and Twilight Zone. She said I could pick them up around 4/15 and because I ordered them early I got 10% off. Yippee. I'm way on the other side of N Meridian in the boons.

I used to go to Edwards and take pictures of the surroundings including some of the older houses in the neighborhood.

Thanks again!

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Anyone else with opinions on the above roses?

    Bookmark   January 23, 2015 at 3:02AM
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

Very interesting, with some beautiful roses that I gather are not available here.

Ingrid

    Bookmark   January 22, 2015 at 2:56PM
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roseblush1(8a/Sunset 7)

Seil ...

'François Rabelais' has been a solid plant for me. It does slow down a bit during the hottest part of the summer, but not for long.

Ingrid ...

Many of the roses on Maurice's site were once available here. We lost the availability of so many roses in the last several years.

Smiles,
Lyn

    Bookmark   January 22, 2015 at 8:29PM
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roseseek

The color is beautifully saturated, bluegirl, which is the one thing I've always enjoyed about it. McGredy seemed to love those colors as evidenced by his Orangeade, Trumpeter, Sherry, Brown Velvet and a ton of his other "fry your retina" colors. Here, as with many of his roses, it tends to be rather "vigorous". I don't know what to tell you to expect in Texas, but I've enjoyed it. Kim

    Bookmark   January 22, 2015 at 7:31PM
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bluegirl_gw

Yes, "fry your eye", indeed! I love the Orangeade I got last spring. It makes me almost laugh each time it's in bloom--it's so outrageously, screamingly, unashamedly, blacklight -poster, ORRRRAAANNNGGE!!! Like a wildflower rose.

Glad to hear COB is vigorous, at least in CA. It's one of those I've looked at for years, but never read any posts re. it. Thanks for the info.

    Bookmark   January 22, 2015 at 7:40PM
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shopshops

Sigh!!! such beauty. Googling the Bernstein Rose now. Golden Buddha is a deep yellow, but it stays short. It's available from Rogue Valley Roses as a band. I bought one last year. Happy Child is supposed to be a smaller Austin that is a pale yellow. I have not grown this one myself. There are lots of pics of it on the internet.

Nanadoll thanks so much for the inspiration that your garden is .I got Ascot rose Mauve/red .(Sorry a little off thread for good reason) from Palantine due to your pictures and it shot up to a 7 foot wonder covered in blooms in only 6 months!! Pleased to see you posting again.

Best wishes in your search NVL4.
Shops

    Bookmark   January 22, 2015 at 11:26AM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Thank you so much, Shops. I've had a ball the last few weeks posting again (or over posting). I hope you can find Bernstein-Rose being sold somewhere--perhaps, Heirloom or Hortico (where I got mine). Diane

    Bookmark   January 22, 2015 at 6:40PM
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anntn6b(z6b TN)

Did anyone continue Lois Hole's greenhouses in Alberta?

    Bookmark   January 21, 2015 at 11:39AM
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onewheeler(Z5 N.S.)

Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I need to sit down here some night and comb the internet for rose suppliers. Time is a premium right now. I should have started looking in November when life was quieter.

I just moved into this house last Jan. I was able to go to my old garden and dig to my hearts content. I managed to bring at least 25 roses with me and have tried to start some cuttings but of course the rose lust never ends. I have grown at least 500 roses in the last decade and I still have not tired of their beauty.

Valerie

    Bookmark   January 22, 2015 at 5:51PM
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jacqueline9CA

Christopher, I think you have put your finger on it - it is all about gardening styles, not what actual roses you use. My HTs are intermixed with old roses because I like it that way. I let them grow way more wild than someone with them in a formal bed would.

Jackie

    Bookmark   January 22, 2015 at 1:52PM
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

ratdogheads makes a good point about some of the Austins having modern-looking foliage. I was very disappointed when I saw the foliage of The Dark Lady. Fortunately this rose was bright red in my garden and I was rather happy to see it deteriorate in the drought so I could take it out.

The point that a few others have made about appearance being more important than origin is one I totally share. Everything should blend together in one area and that matters a lot more than whether it's a noisette next to a hybrid tea. What's most important to me is whether I love that particular rose and just have to have it in my life.

Wonderful pictures, everyone, and they add much to the discussion.

Ingrid

    Bookmark   January 22, 2015 at 2:43PM
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krikit

I'm glad to find this thread as I've been wanting a nice red fragrant rose. I've been considering Firefighter but don't like to spray chemicals. Pat_Bama, do you spray yours? and if not, where are you located? I'm in East TN.

Thanks,
Frances

    Bookmark   January 21, 2015 at 6:49PM
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pat_bamaz7

Frances, I'm midway between Huntsville & Birmingham. I do spray my HTs with fungicide for blackspot as needed...usually several times a season. Blackspot on Firefighter had previously been controlled with minimal spraying, but blackspot was worse than usual with most of my roses last year. I probably sprayed Firefighter monthly, and it was still frequently spotted. It never quit blooming because of it, but lost some foliage and what it didn't lose often didn't look so great.

    Bookmark   January 22, 2015 at 11:05AM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

That is a lovely combination, James. Can you show us more of your garden? Diane

    Bookmark   January 19, 2015 at 2:33PM
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susan4952(5)

Amazing

    Bookmark   January 21, 2015 at 10:18PM
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HerdingCats(9/Sunset 20)

Toolbelt, what a neat idea. I may find a quiet corner somewhere and do just that. I do need to put in some trees for shade in the pastures...and this is not much more work at all to do. Hmmmm. Thanks!

Thegarden, thanks for the welcome back. It's been a while, and I'm glad to be here for sure. I just am so excited about what I can see for this place...indeed a bit of heaven. I absolutely have photos, and will be taking more as things progress.first priority is the shop conversion into a barn for my horses...indeed want them home ASAP. But that is about half done, and spring is looming...so I've been dreaming about getting the front yard done. And the veggie garden too.

Diane, it got pretty bad in Los Angeles for me. I acquired a dangerous stalker on top of everything else, and it was always the plan to come to Oregon eventually...and the housing market did very well by me...so here I am.

Btw...please forgive the occasional typo and strange wording...I'm on my phone and its both difficult to type on as well as autocorrect believes it knows the words I'm using. Sigh.

It's going to be my little bit of heaven...My nieces and nephew are nearby and its been just wonderful to be close to family and be part of their lives. Nephews basketball team just won their division championship and I was there. Oldest niece is taking riding lessons with my new trainer, and my littlest niece loves to come to the farm and go wandering...attended by the dogs. Brother, nephew and I are doing the renovations ourselves...and Sister in law loves the peace and quiet when I have her family here. Lol.

In re New Dawn, yes I'm aware she might take the fence down. She'll be in a place where that is acceptable if it happens...but I'm hoping I will be able to keep on top of it/her to prevent that. And that's the reason she's not at the corner of the house or garage or barn...lol.

Have a great day!

Best
Herding Cats

    Bookmark   January 21, 2015 at 11:41AM
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toolbelt68(7)

Glad you liked the suggestion. One thing to keep in mind is; the dogwoods don't like things laying on top of their roots. Also very little can grow under them. So make sure you lay any patio stones/bricks, etc down around the swing before the trees get big.

    Bookmark   January 21, 2015 at 12:45PM
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bethnorcal9

Oh Andrea, you're going to have fun this yr!! I live up in the Sierra foothills where it's a bit colder than your area. I actually have a lot of roses blooming now, due to the unusually warmer weather. But I fully expect it to start getting colder next month and they'll slow down again. In my area the blooms usually start popping out in late March to early April and by the end of April they'll be in full force. I'm really anxious to see them all blooming again.

    Bookmark   January 21, 2015 at 11:19AM
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jacqueline9CA

Andrea, what kind of roses do you have? Are they all hybrid teas?

My tea roses have already been blooming for a month. They always start slowly in Jan, then gradually build up to a large Spring flush, then bloom gently for the rest of the year, sometimes even forgetting to stop booming in Dec.

My china roses have also been blooming for a month already.

The banksia is usually next - just beginning to show some buds.

So, it depends on what kind you have - if you would like earlier bloom, you might look into getting some teas and chinas. Where in the SF Bay area do you live? I live in San Rafael.

Jackie

    Bookmark   January 21, 2015 at 11:52AM
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lesmc

I really love my Blueberry Hill. I also love Love Song, but a different bloom. I also grow Blue Bayou, but it is not a strong bloomer. When it does bloom, it is very lovely. Just wanted to share my BH. Lesley

    Bookmark   January 20, 2015 at 10:48PM
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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

Well Molineux, if you haven't figured it by now, Diane is a flower goddess disguised as a regular poster with that magic touch most of us regular mortals do not have. Every pic that Diane has posted looks even better than any botanical garden pictures I've ever seen. (grin).

I agree BB is beautiful but since I do not spray, I will not grow it. I will probably grow Poseidon or Novalis if I can find it this year. Fragrance is not my top priority as I grow other fragrant varieties. BS and flower forms is a must for me.

Lesmc, your pic is quite misleading. Your Blueberry Hill is so gorgeous that all the pics I have seen in Rose Search website pales in comparison. If I ever grow this rose, it would be because of you. When I look at the pics in rose search, I wasn't convinced because most of them looks too pink or too blowsy. Your rose should be the covergirl for this variety.

    Bookmark   January 21, 2015 at 9:47AM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

What is this color "green" of which you speak? Right now, i can see no color, just a curtain of fog for the umpteenth day in a row. Green, hmmm, not sure I can remember it. Just being silly and desperate for a little green.
Green is a healing color, and I'm glad you're now surrounded by it, Sow What. Diane

    Bookmark   January 21, 2015 at 2:45AM
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Sow_what? Southern California Inland

Hoovb -- thank you!

Oopsie -- I'm so out of touch, I forgot you snowbirds are blanketed in white. Maybe you need to follow the big fad with lawns in drought-ridden California and dye your snow green.

Actually, I think your frosty white blankets can be exquisitely serene and healing as well. Just don't like the chill -- brrrrrrr.

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This post was edited by Sow_what on Wed, Jan 21, 15 at 7:54

    Bookmark   January 21, 2015 at 7:51AM
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Marlorena(Z8-9 England)

OK...Oklahoma...I just love that musical...I've seen it on the London stage and on film... I've been to Kansas...nearly got caught out by a brewing tornado..although not sure if it ever quite materialised... it seemed to follow us whichever way we turned... quite scary at the time... same in Nebraska..we had to take shelter in the underground of an hotel...
..I don't think I could live in that belt....

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    Bookmark   January 21, 2015 at 2:37AM
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