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Christopher and prairie_northrose:
Thank you! You are super great. I had been very frustrated not being able to identify it for so a long time. Now I can sleep well.
So, it is Therese Bugnet which is Rugosa developed in Canada in 1941. Yes, I thought the leaves are so unique that somebody could identify it here. I have Hansa, Rugosa Alba, pink Groutendorst (spell?), and Linda Campbell blooming in front of my eyes right now. But I had never associated it with them. The leaves and stems are so dainty and elegant very unlike Rugosa I mentioned. Therese Bugnet won my heart and I could recommend it to anyone here in zone 5. Oh, the fragrance is superb too.
Thank you again.
I'm glad you like Therese as well. She just opened for me, and the fragrance is lovely, very intense. I also appreciate the unique delicate matte foliage. Apparently the stems get quite red in winter as well. It's funny, I bought a bareroot Therese not long ago, the bag said it came all the way from Texas. It is a very well known rose here in Alberta.
I agree - thanks for posting this article! Even if KO is too commonly seen everywhere, and we're tired of the effect, we owe Bill Radler a debt in doing all that breeding and for hybridizing something that could survive so well under so many conditions. It was interesting to see Ping Lim commend Bill Radler's efforts and say the Easy Elegance series depended on his earlier efforts with KO. As a huge fan of EE roses that greatly expand the color and style of KO type roses for any location, I'm grateful to Bill for his efforts in being the initiator of a new generation of "easy" modern roses. I also have Double Knockout, and while it's not my most impressive rose it has a respected place in my garden and I consider it an important part of recent rose history.
Cynthia
So my biggest concern at the moment would be with the shape of the bloom. I'd like to not keep this many buds on the plant at this time. I'm used to roses improving with time but so far the blooms have been very dome shaped. The only other Austin own root that it could be is Sir John Betjeman which it currently matches perfectly.
Thank you so much everyone for your opinions. By the time these next eleven buds open there should be one that shows at partial cupping shape or she is SJB. With HMF and Heirloom listing this as hardy to zone 2b was hoping to put it in the seriously raised bed.
Fragrancenutter, I had a rose shape up one time. After four years it had till fall to get it together put the shovel it the ground by her and left it there.
Yes, Michael, I suspected it was cercospora, and was hoping you'd chime in to confirm it. I did a lot of reading on it when the outbreak occurred, including some of your past posts. I hadn't really had anything like this before.
I always remove infected leaves just because I can't stand looking at them! I use Bayer and alternate with mancozeb. The ironic thing about the outbreak is that it occured the day after I sprayed with Bayer late in the afternoon. I think the very warm day, wet sprayed leaves, and cool evening caused the outbreak.
Warren, I grow all the "Easy to Love" varieties from Weeks, including Cinco de Mayo, since they have above average blackspot resistance here in our humid, high bs pressure conditions. Most are thorny to the point I often put new growth on "RRD watch". Due to losing an Easy Going last year to rose rosette disease, I find the new growth on them to be alarmingly thorny, but with the exception of that Easy Going last year, none has been diseased...just very thorny.
If they cuttings are somewhere without a lot of natural light, the t5 should be on for a normal seed starting schedule. That would be about 16 hours on, and 8 off. It should be as close to the top of the dome as possible. The cuttings should be misted when the dome no longer has condensation on the inside. Fertilizing isn't done until the cuttings have a good root system.
Cynthia, thanks so much for your kind words!
Kate, I'm sorry the link at the bottom of my posts irritated you -- I'm not here to aggravate or upset anyone. Many other people here have a link to facebook or a blog attached to ALL their posts. Jacqueline, the Red Cross is not about gardens -- Humpty Dumpty House is. We live and breathe gardens. Whether we're striving to change our community with a neighborhood fruit tree program, or the lives of people struggling to get back on their feet with a sack of fresh produce and a peaceful hideaway for respite, we do it through gardening and gardens. Even our job training for people out of work teaches only gardening and garden construction skills.
Our childrens programs are especially precious to me. When I became unable to continue funding those myself due to a series of injuries that put me in the hospital on and off for most of 6 months (I'm just out of the hospital again right now, in fact) my heart was broken. An opportunity to get some help through facebook "likes" was a desperately needed miracle. The click of a button could change someone's life -- who wouldn't help with that?
I hoped the plea at the bottom of my posts would move people on this forum; instead it caused some of you irritation. When I first heard this from you Kate, I was shocked, especially since so very many people here did "like" our facebook and continue to visit regularly and "like" our posts. In fact, every time I posted the link we got a few new "likes". Mariannese even very sweetly considered rejoining facebook, which I would never ask anyone to do. It simply never occurred to me that some people would become irritated and start flagging my posts.
I'm not angry with any of you since I consider this my oversight. But I'm also at a loss since my post content was always RELEVANT TO THE FORUM I WAS POSTING ON, and the information I posted was based on careful observation that I thought would be helpful to others. I do the same with Humpty Dumpty House facebook, where we review a lot of roses and other plants, posts tons of photos, share design ideas and how-to's. I'm sorry some of you don't find any of this helpful. When I read a post I don't particularly like, I tend to just ignore it and move on rather than flagging it or doing something hurtful. I'm not here to dictate what anyone else should do, but doesn't life already throw too much manure in our faces? I don't know about any of you, but a little kindness sure helps me get thru my day. That and some humor in the "Campanula" style (yes, I do mean you, Camps) gives me what I need to deal with life's thorns.
Regarding your invitation, I garden only at client properties (which are typically kept private), and at Humpty Dumpty House (which I love to share) -- I don't have the time or Ingrid's and Diane's courage to garden amongst the massive boulders and barren decomposed granite at my home. So inviting me to stay as long as I don't post anything about Humpty Dumpty House is not inviting me to stay.
jannike
Yes, ADK=Adirondack. :-) Just went to visited 2 local nurseries on my scooter, but they don't sell roses. There is another nursery 10 miles away, it might have roses. I will check it out later by car, didn't bring my big bike, riding a little 50cc Honda Ruckus, top speed 42 mph, can only carry 1 rose (potted). :-) It's pretty cold at night and morning, now warmed up to 72. I haven't seen any roses in people's gardens here. I will post some photos of Palatine nursery next week :-)
SoFL rose, thanks for the info. The shipping is not cheap, I'd wait for Palatine in Sept for bare root roses, unless I find some bargains next week at Palatine. There is a $25 charge for a certificate entering the U.S. with live plants. I will find one sooner or later., really love this rose. :-)
Hi Diane, yes it is a tomato cage. That's it's usual name here as well. :)
The Evelyn is one year old. Yes I have stripped the leaves before tying down the canes. It's winter here and I stripp all leaves off my roses when I trim them and then I spray with lime sulfur which kills any mites and fungus etc. There were still a few flowers on top of the Evelyn bush which I left on as they were about to open in a few days.
YUM. I've got two Heirloom body bags (which may not survive) and an heirloom own root. I will have to spot it where it doesn't fry. Can't wait for the scent. Hypnotic is what I need most days....
Also have body bag of Intrigue.
We shall see.....
And NanaDianne....I've planted two Ascots this year! and Wild Blue Yonder! and some of the other mauves. We will have to compare.
Susan
I just got an Heirloom and it has buds I can't wait to bloom. My mother has one and it has the most heavenly scent. I CAN'T WAIT!! I have two, one is just a baby I pinched off the first bloom so that it can develop good root and cane growth. And the other is two feet tall and bushy. I too have Intrigue and I must say they compliment each other in scent and color of blooms.
Heirloom Roses has a great article on companion plants! And good for your roses too.
I think I would not fertilize again given what you read on the label. I imagine it is expressed this way as a percentage of soil volume. I wonder if it is slow release? Anyway you should have enough fertilizer to get through the season. I just hope these recover and you enjoy this Dark Desire as much as I do. I agree I do like First Crush - lots of bloom power and really a nice fragrance. We are releasing 2 more Parfuma this year - it may take a year or so for these to reach the public. I just really like roses with scent although I can appreciate the others I am drawn to scent.
Best of luck and let me know how this turns out.
Chris
enchantedrosez, we start feeding about 1-2 months after a rose is planted in Miracle Gro Potting mix/soil...