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Sow_what? Southern California Inland

Cynthia, thanks so much for your kind words!

Kate, I'm sorry the link at the bottom of my posts irritated you -- I'm not here to aggravate or upset anyone. Many other people here have a link to facebook or a blog attached to ALL their posts. Jacqueline, the Red Cross is not about gardens -- Humpty Dumpty House is. We live and breathe gardens. Whether we're striving to change our community with a neighborhood fruit tree program, or the lives of people struggling to get back on their feet with a sack of fresh produce and a peaceful hideaway for respite, we do it through gardening and gardens. Even our job training for people out of work teaches only gardening and garden construction skills.

Our childrens programs are especially precious to me. When I became unable to continue funding those myself due to a series of injuries that put me in the hospital on and off for most of 6 months (I'm just out of the hospital again right now, in fact) my heart was broken. An opportunity to get some help through facebook "likes" was a desperately needed miracle. The click of a button could change someone's life -- who wouldn't help with that?

I hoped the plea at the bottom of my posts would move people on this forum; instead it caused some of you irritation. When I first heard this from you Kate, I was shocked, especially since so very many people here did "like" our facebook and continue to visit regularly and "like" our posts. In fact, every time I posted the link we got a few new "likes". Mariannese even very sweetly considered rejoining facebook, which I would never ask anyone to do. It simply never occurred to me that some people would become irritated and start flagging my posts.

I'm not angry with any of you since I consider this my oversight. But I'm also at a loss since my post content was always RELEVANT TO THE FORUM I WAS POSTING ON, and the information I posted was based on careful observation that I thought would be helpful to others. I do the same with Humpty Dumpty House facebook, where we review a lot of roses and other plants, posts tons of photos, share design ideas and how-to's. I'm sorry some of you don't find any of this helpful. When I read a post I don't particularly like, I tend to just ignore it and move on rather than flagging it or doing something hurtful. I'm not here to dictate what anyone else should do, but doesn't life already throw too much manure in our faces? I don't know about any of you, but a little kindness sure helps me get thru my day. That and some humor in the "Campanula" style (yes, I do mean you, Camps) gives me what I need to deal with life's thorns.

Regarding your invitation, I garden only at client properties (which are typically kept private), and at Humpty Dumpty House (which I love to share) -- I don't have the time or Ingrid's and Diane's courage to garden amongst the massive boulders and barren decomposed granite at my home. So inviting me to stay as long as I don't post anything about Humpty Dumpty House is not inviting me to stay.

jannike

https://www.facebook.com/HumptyDumptyHouse

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jasminerose4u, California 9b

My suggestion was that even if you don't link to the Humpty Dumpty House facebook page, you can write about it and forum members can easily search for it if they wish. But it seems that your posts are not being deleted now.

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summersrhythm_z6a

Yes, ADK=Adirondack. :-) Just went to visited 2 local nurseries on my scooter, but they don't sell roses. There is another nursery 10 miles away, it might have roses. I will check it out later by car, didn't bring my big bike, riding a little 50cc Honda Ruckus, top speed 42 mph, can only carry 1 rose (potted). :-) It's pretty cold at night and morning, now warmed up to 72. I haven't seen any roses in people's gardens here. I will post some photos of Palatine nursery next week :-)

SoFL rose, thanks for the info. The shipping is not cheap, I'd wait for Palatine in Sept for bare root roses, unless I find some bargains next week at Palatine. There is a $25 charge for a certificate entering the U.S. with live plants. I will find one sooner or later., really love this rose. :-)

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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

Hi Diane, yes it is a tomato cage. That's it's usual name here as well. :)

The Evelyn is one year old. Yes I have stripped the leaves before tying down the canes. It's winter here and I stripp all leaves off my roses when I trim them and then I spray with lime sulfur which kills any mites and fungus etc. There were still a few flowers on top of the Evelyn bush which I left on as they were about to open in a few days.

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poorbutroserich(Nashville 7a)

YUM. I've got two Heirloom body bags (which may not survive) and an heirloom own root. I will have to spot it where it doesn't fry. Can't wait for the scent. Hypnotic is what I need most days....
Also have body bag of Intrigue.
We shall see.....
And NanaDianne....I've planted two Ascots this year! and Wild Blue Yonder! and some of the other mauves. We will have to compare.
Susan

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Nita3000(Zone5)

I just got an Heirloom and it has buds I can't wait to bloom. My mother has one and it has the most heavenly scent. I CAN'T WAIT!! I have two, one is just a baby I pinched off the first bloom so that it can develop good root and cane growth. And the other is two feet tall and bushy. I too have Intrigue and I must say they compliment each other in scent and color of blooms.

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Jillian Moon

Heirloom Roses has a great article on companion plants! And good for your roses too.

Companion Rose Plants

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enchantedrosez6a

Thanks Jillian.

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kittymoonbeam

The flowers are pretty the way they open. Each one is different.

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jerijen(Zone 10)

I'll save them for future need. Thanks.

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I spoke to soon Sara Ann... (lol) Just watched weather report and the coming temps are going to be near 90 degrees for awhile...

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Sara-Ann Z6B OK

Jim, that still doesn't sound too bad, I'd take 90 degrees right now!

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cecily(7 VA)

Have you considered clematis? Some of those are supposed to be whacked hard each year.

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saki7a

Oh, that sounds perfect! I'll look into it. Thank you!

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nickjoseph(5 Milwaukee, WI)

So then I can assume that the only spiders that chomp on rose bushes and make 'mince meat' out of them are mites which are teeny tiny?

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Yes!

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caflowerluver(9b)

Nancylee2 - WOW, you have a lot of Austin roses.Thanks for such a long list and all the information. I will look up all those roses. I have been growing roses here since 1986. I use to have 50 but have cut back to about 30. Some of my roses go back to 1986 and aren't doing as well. I thought I would replace them with Austin roses. But I had heard that they can be more demanding than other roses. I love their looks though.

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caflowerluver(9b)

Nancylee2 - I started looking up the roses. Not sure what the initials stand for. Is BB= Ben Britten, CPM = Crown Princess Margareta, LDB= L.D. Braithwaite, LofM= Lady of Megginch, PAK=Princess Alexandra of Kent, SA= Sharifa Asma, TDL= The Dark Lady?

Thanks.

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jumanji81

I believe it is a climber. Around 4 years old?

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

It looks like this rose is not going to be any good for you unless it is sprayed regularly with fungicide. But you could remove any dead wood and cut it back to say 3' or 1 m. if you want.

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cecily(7 VA)

Its gotta be too hot in San Antonio for a new BS infection to start now. I'm with Nipstress, just pick off the yellow leaves & don't spray. Its tricky to spray in hot weather without damaging the foliage.

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pinkkpearls
Yea we've been in the upper 90s, our nights have been mid 70s. I definitely don't want to spray it and would rather see how it recovers on its own
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Mila Ski (Z5 Chicago)

Thank you everyone. You have been extremely helpful.

altorama - I really appreciate that list!

Cynthia - You have really put it into perspective for me. Other than the color, I was drawn to Dortmund mainly because of the hardiness but looking at the list altaroma posted and seeing your Quadra I think this is the rose for me. The only thing I don't understand they're showing max height 5-6 and yours looks much taller, spread 21/2 -3. I wonder why that is. How many do you have planted there in your picture? BTW Thanks so much for the photos. Beautiful!

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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

Mila - I think Quadra would do nicely for you if you have a structure sturdy enough for it to grow on. The picture I have is just one Quadra, and it totally fills the arch. I'd had it growing free standing for a few years because I was too lazy to find and set up an arch (like my John Cabot & Alexander MacKenzie nowadays), and it became a huge 7X5' monster with big thick thorny canes. Wrestling that monster into the arch you see took a full day, tying up as many canes as I could bend into submission, which is why I can speak with good authority on its thorniness!
I had to double check your remark of 5-6' on helpmefind.com (the best rose resource out there), and surprisingly they list this one as only 6-8'. Mine starts the year at a good 7-8' and grows on from there, since it doesn't lose any cane over the winter. It's set in the middle of the arch and the canes are tied as horizontally as I can get them on the arches to each side. You want to try to do that for any climber, since it's the canes the rose grows off horizontal canes that will be the best bloomers, and you avoid a climber that only blooms at the top. Quadra fills in the middle of the arch too with blooms which makes a nice full effect.

Glad the photos help, and we're always ready to enable fellow gardeners! Palatine sells Quadra I think, as does High Country Gardens and several other northern suppliers.

Cynthia

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kentucky_rose zone 6

That was just too hard to resist in the rose world!

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rosecanadian

I love Memorial Day!!! It won the fragrance trophy for me. It's a wonderful rose.

Good for you!!!

Carol

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altorama(5/6 MA)

Could she plant it in the ground? Also you might want to check with others from her zone about its performance there.

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Mila Ski (Z5 Chicago)

It's a screened in concrete patio, no, she unfortunately can't plant it in ground

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Mary Grant (zone 6a, Mt. Clemens, MI)

I am in zone 6a according to what I looked up. I could move the tie but I'd rather not. I could wait until fall to move it, though. I just wasn't sure what would be easier on the plant. Moving while the roots are not too deep or waiting until they were more developed.

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altorama(5/6 MA)

But now you have to consider the fact that you don't want to have to move the railroad tie, so digging the plant up in the fall, with a larger root system, may be harder.

In any event, I've always found that moving them in the fall was better for the plant, even if I did lose some roots. They always came back well in the spring. I put them into the ground, I don't have good luck with moving them to pots. Give it some extra mulch for the winter.

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