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Keeping them watered in Oahu is no problem (I think we've had rain every night for the past two months) ... frustrating since now I have to worry about black spot In addition to thrips and now the roundup damage. Luckily half my roses are in another part of the property.
I will be watching out for new canes and what kind of growth they have, hoping I won't need to dump any that I really want to keep.
Its Roundup because it's affected all the plants at the same time in that same area with those spindly new growth things but it's not an explosion of new growth. The growth too is red on some of them but eventually turns green.
In blackspot country, water when the leaves will dry completely before dark, not in late evening. I water in the morning for this reason.
Don't use sprinklers in the sun, especially with high temps or low humidity, as a significant amount of water will evaporate before it sinks into the soil.
In areas with powdery mildew but little or no blackspot, overhead watering in the wee hours helps to control mildew.
Michael is giving you the ideal situations. However, in practice I water when I can and that's usually in the afternoon, unfortunately, when it's hot. If you have a timer system that's great. You can set the times to the ideal but when you water by hand you just do the best you can and hope for the best. I really do try not to water in the evening but sometimes it's a choice between that and no water at all. And then Mother Nature never times her watering at all, lol!
I would also pinch the flower buds off to lessen the stress on the plant right now. Once it recovers then allow the buds to form again.
Crossing my fingers for you. I've fertilizer burnt plants before. I only use liquid fertilizers now (except for compost) I really don't like the granular ones. There is some osmocote type that comes in the potting soils but that one hasn't caused me any problems. Another reason I can't use the granular types is that the dumb chickens eat it lol.
The worst thing about general purpose ferts targeting the amateur garden keeper is that they contain WAY too much phosphorus. Not even in pots would one need so much P in relation with N and K. In a garden environment unless there is a specific soil deficiency, no P is needed to be added. If the pH is way out of range for P availability for the specific plants either pH should be controlled or P applied foliarly.
Thanks toolbelt & Sam, I will plant them tomorrow, didn't have enough time before dark. I think the long side, I might plant a cl pinkie if it's not dead( I moved cl pinkie twice within 4 weeks, it doesn't look too good, without any new growth), and the other 2 sides I plant 2 ZDs, one on each side. Trying to plant the roses with no thorns for the dog run. :-)
I tried a number of things and found they were susceptible to beta-cyfluthrin and Confidor. In fact they were susceptible to other pyrethroids too but I try to use the more affordable ones as well as the ones more gentle on the plants. Some others can burn the leaves especially in hot weather. I also found that spraying the roses alone was not enough. The chrysanthemum and heliotrope hedges had to be sprayed as well otherwise they can act as reservoir for the thrips.
Hi Carol do you grow Evelyn? It is a huge rose in zone 10 but could be just the right vigor for you. My favourite Austin fragrances are Evelyn and Munstead Wood. Munstead Wood smells like Frederic Mistral and Black Boy. Evelyn has a very nice and strong yet soft rose perfume. No myrrh tones which so many of the Austins do have and unfortunately does not agree with my nose.
My alba meid's are tough as nails and would do fine in containers. I use them in some spots that are worse than containers, I'm sure :D Some of mine get insane root competition from large trees, so that's about as bad as it gets.
They won't get as big as they can get, naturally, but that's what you want for container plants. They'll still send long arms out, so you'll need little trellises unless you want them spilling out over the container a fair bit.
Love your choices (Lady of Shalott etc.). Looks like you're doing some bouquet planning.
Aside from climate restrictions on the one to add --- 'Tiffany' would fit right in with the other yellow based pink/peaches. 'Secret' not so much. IMO. I grow both and 'Secret' is, well, she is distinct. I think she would be a jarring note. I read that 'Francis Meilland' fades to white. One this pale may be difficult to place but I think it would make the bed more interesting. I put photos of each on my desktop and arranged. I cast my vote for FM.
My Francis Meilland is beautiful, when it blooms, but it is a very stingy bloomer in my little micro-climate on Oahu (full sun, windy, rain in the evening). It grew to 7 feet in a year, but I've only had 4 or 5 blooms from it, have done the pruning, the fertilizer, etc. I might give up if this next hard pruning doesn't do anything, and re-use the 15 gallon pot on one of the better rose plants.
One of my first plants was a Secret, produced beautiful, heavenly flowers with wonderful scent, so I would vote for it anytime for anyone.
That looks like blackspot to me.
FWIW I don't see it on roses that are regularly sprayed with a fungicide--while I have seen it on roses that haven't been sprayed.