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THIS is 'Dr. Huey.'
He is a very vigorous once-blooming rambler of impressive proportions.
In his spring bloom, he will cover himself with an extraordinary mass of dark red flowers, centered by bright golden stamens.
Unfortunately, the deep red fairly quickly grows a bit muddy, as the blooms age. When they are gone -- you will see no more for the rest of the year. That is the time to prune him.
The bad news is that the good Doctor, once his spring bloom is done, rapidly settles down to rust, mildew, and blackspot to an unpleasant degree.

It depends on what you want and like. He can put on that spectacular display in the spring but only on last years, one year old, wood. So what you're seeing come up now will not bloom until next spring IF all those canes survive the winter. If he dies back to the ground over the winter and then starts to grow back in the spring he won't bloom again until the following year. 
He can be quite pretty during bloom but afterwards, as Jeri said, he's a spot magnet.

Please cut out all that brown stuff--we are tired of looking at it, if you arent'. OK--so brutal surgery is required. Well , then, do it!
Now, with the left-over healthy stuff, water deeply, and then water regularly in the future. You don't want the rose to dry out.
I agree with Pat--probably your roses suffered more winter damage than you realized or you were too timid with your pruning in the springtime. Trying to "save" weak or questionable canes is not a good idea. Prune back anything that doesnt' look healthy. Yes--that sometimes means pruning back nearly to the ground--if there was a lot a winter damage. If that were done early in the spring, the rose would jump back with spring growth and there would be no problems now in the summer heat.
Canker is a rose disease--looks like dark splotches on the canes. Always cut below the canker spots.
Good luck.
Kate

I have pruned the brown dead areas which are dry inside but not hollow, believe me I was tired of looking at the brown areas as well Kate. I am watering regularly and have planted one rose bush in a pot in the shade after pruning it back. The roots on the rose bush still looked healthy. The only dark spots on the stems were the brown thorns which I assume were because of lack of water and/or nutrients.

Is it possible that your Sugar Moon has produced a sport which is not unlike the 'viridiflora' arising from one of the China roses 'Old Blush'? Not all sports have to be pretty. If you cut the weird flowers off and the new shoots from that stem produced the same flowers again it is likely a sport.

We see this in a lot of roses during extreme heat or when the temperatures fluctuate from one extreme to the other. The buds open before they are fully developed so they tend to have a greenish hue and are deformed. Your rose should be fine once temperatures drop again. Also, sucker growth will come from below the soil level and the leaves will be more narrow than the standard rose leaves as Weeks uses Dr Huey rootstock. Sometimes roses will shoot up long reaching canes like the ones you have looking for more sunlight, but they aren't necessarily sucker growth. It looks like you have a very healthy rose that is just a little stressed in the heat!



My worry is that Crepuscule will look too different from the two other roses. Pinky and Renae are pink and single or almost single (my Pinkie had thorns, by the way) while Crepuscule is a glowing gold-apricot, and the flowers are larger and with more petals. If you decide to use it I would put it in the middle so that the odd man out is flanked by the two more similar-looking roses. Just a thought; the color and shape difference may not matter to you.

Sorry for the delay in answering- I've been having several computer issues.
I wasn't that impressed with the first flowers from Pinkie, but they have been improving- the first ones were tiny and a bit blah looking, but the later ones have gone semi double and while not large, are really kind of cute and ribbon like. I wouldn't say its entirely thornless, but so far they're not that bad..more prickles than thorns; (just went and re checked mine) you might snag a few jackets tho.
I certainly hope it stays that way, as its supposed to eventually wind around the entry to the front verandah. Health seems good- very little if any blackspot... it's not that vigorous so far, but as I mentioned, its not in a good spot. Smell wise, nothing so far but there are quite a few rose fragrances I don't seem to get very well. Crepuscule is supposed to smell rather nice, but I cant seem to pick that one up either :)

I do nothing, and the bugs and birds come to eat them. If I'm cutting blooms for a vase, I'll hose off what I've cut, but that's about it.
Here's a pic from May showing one member of my aphid-eating crew.

If you keep blasting away the aphids, there won't be enough left to be discovered as a food source by the things that eat them. It's sorta like throwing bird seed out on the ground -- one or two seeds will go unnoticed, but a handful will be spotted.
:-)
~Christopher

if you have ants, they help the aphids stay and also chase off anything that wants to eat the aphids. Aphids will always be a problem when there are ants around. Once the aphids are under control, plant society garlic to drive them off and discourage new ones and also plant small nectar flowers like alyssum to give ladybugs a place to stay while they snack on the aphids.




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I enjoy Wild Blue Yonder since I consider it a happy rose, has been resistant to the other bad things that occur to my other roses. It's not a cut flower type, but because it's prolific and healthy, it's a definite keeper for me. Mine leans more towards red/pink rather than that dark purple.

You don't say where you are located so it's hard to say but weather conditions can have a huge affect on the formation of buds. And yes, it can affect just certain areas of the plant due to wind and rain patterns. I really don't see anything wrong with the bud but I don't grow BW so I can't say for sure.

I am in San Antonio Z8/8b - weather has been pretty mild as it relates to normal TX weather. We'd generally be upwards of 100 by now, even though the 90s is still hot.
I haven't put in any new fertilizer since I've planted it, but I did get some seaweed in the general area as its near bed of other plants.

Golden Buddha, when it's not fried by the sun, goes from rich orange/apricot to a faded (pastel) pinkish-yellow. And the Paradise here opens to pale pink then 'burns' to a more saturated pink.
Acropolis looks freaking amazing and very beautiful. I would love to get one of these. And maybe a Tequila Supreme.

Patty - that's good to hear about Kardinal Kolorscape! I've certainly been impressed with its vivid red blooms in its first year, and I'll have to pay more attention to its faded blooms after this. Joe - same goes for Golden Buddha. It's just now in its second year in my yard, but so far I've liked the blooms in every stage so far till it almost falls apart. Paradise is one of those mutable roses that can transform into something intriguing - particularly with that black edge it can get. I'm surprised yours opens a pale pink - mine is more hot pink in the heat and closer to mauve in the cooler weather. Perhaps the part sun makes a difference for mine.
I was worried that I was enabling you folks for an unobtainable rose in Acropolis, since I got mine from Vintage several years ago, but fortunately Angel Gardens lists this one in their repertoire. They don't have every rose each year, so it might be worth an email to them if you're interested in them propagating this one. And yes, it is freakishly beautiful with those indescribably greeny-cream undersides, and even in my zone it wants to be 5-6' tall with lots of basals and blooms (remember that this is own root too...)
Cynthia




Article on controlling nematodes in potted plants
http://homeguides.sfgate.com/kill-nematodes-houseplants-25731.html
If you dig the rose up and the roots do not have knots on them, then you should be ok. If you have knots on them you may need to cut them off. Once you go to put them in a new pot you will need to make sure that it has plenty of organic material in it. Nematodes hate the organic stuff. They prefer sand..... So when you originally planted the roses if you had put in lotss of good organics you may not have nematodes. Make sure when you have them in the pots that the pot does not touch the ground. It needs to be raised because the nematodes can travel from the ground to the pot which will defeat your purpose.
On another note, I just posted that I am having a couple of my roses decline because I have this mat that is growing and choking out the roses. I really don't know what it is and haven't gotten any answers as of yet. Someone wanted me to post a picture, but I do not have a way to do that. I haven't seen anything like it before. It looks almost like roots but they are very very dense and not actually attached to any plant. I know that this mat thing was not there when I planted the rose there last fall. This mat thing is very aggressive. I think I am going to have to remove the bush in order to dig the mat out.
Good Luck on your roses.