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Hi Carol do you grow Evelyn? It is a huge rose in zone 10 but could be just the right vigor for you. My favourite Austin fragrances are Evelyn and Munstead Wood. Munstead Wood smells like Frederic Mistral and Black Boy. Evelyn has a very nice and strong yet soft rose perfume. No myrrh tones which so many of the Austins do have and unfortunately does not agree with my nose.

My alba meid's are tough as nails and would do fine in containers. I use them in some spots that are worse than containers, I'm sure :D Some of mine get insane root competition from large trees, so that's about as bad as it gets.
They won't get as big as they can get, naturally, but that's what you want for container plants. They'll still send long arms out, so you'll need little trellises unless you want them spilling out over the container a fair bit.

Love your choices (Lady of Shalott etc.). Looks like you're doing some bouquet planning.
Aside from climate restrictions on the one to add --- 'Tiffany' would fit right in with the other yellow based pink/peaches. 'Secret' not so much. IMO. I grow both and 'Secret' is, well, she is distinct. I think she would be a jarring note. I read that 'Francis Meilland' fades to white. One this pale may be difficult to place but I think it would make the bed more interesting. I put photos of each on my desktop and arranged. I cast my vote for FM.

My Francis Meilland is beautiful, when it blooms, but it is a very stingy bloomer in my little micro-climate on Oahu (full sun, windy, rain in the evening). It grew to 7 feet in a year, but I've only had 4 or 5 blooms from it, have done the pruning, the fertilizer, etc. I might give up if this next hard pruning doesn't do anything, and re-use the 15 gallon pot on one of the better rose plants.
One of my first plants was a Secret, produced beautiful, heavenly flowers with wonderful scent, so I would vote for it anytime for anyone.

I've received bare root roses that I soaked in water for 3+ weeks waiting for the weather to cooperate for planting, no problem. This topic was discussed in another GW thread a few years back & numerous other people had done similar holding times with no problems.


I went to HD for parts today.... Came home with 20 salvias (3 for $12g and 3 2g icebergs ($8). Oops I forgot the other things I went for so I will go back tomorrow..... Thankfully these are for our lawn replacement project for work and not my yard.


I once saw a show about how they 'make' florist roses. It was that 'how it's made' show. The roses are grown in a greenhouse. They are constantly fed fertilizer (probably a miracle gro type) through irrigation. The workers wear hazmat suits and spray them constantly. They are all about 8 feet tall when they cut them. It was quite interesting, but also informative as to why these roses, for the most part, would not do well in a garden.



FYI the 2g pots are on sale at HD for $8. At the apt complex we are pulling out our side bank lawns (not just not watering them) to put back some color at the top we are doing salvias and pops of Iceberg (mostly white but once I find a deal on brilliant pink those too)








Beautiful!
Same flower a day later.