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Sara-Ann - since you're in a cold zone, I thought I'd comment on hardiness, since I certainly can't improve on Beth's fantastic pictures. Moonshadow wasn't remotely hardy for me in two tries, though it might overwinter for you in zone 6 in a protected spot. Shi-Un didn't overwinter in a normal zone 5 spot, but did survive when I moved it into my zone 6 pocket, meaning you should be OK with this one. I also have Lady Rose in a full sun location for its first year, so I can't tell hardiness yet, but it is the most robust bloomer of the three by far in my yard.
Cynthia
So, here's what we need to make the best guesses:
1) Can you find out how long it has been growing there approx?
2) Where are you - West Coast, East Coast, US South?
3) If you can take a camera back there again and take pictures of: close up of leaves, hips if you can find any, flower buds, partly open flowers, and the ENTIRE BUSH.
Jackie
Most of the older HTs will never fit your requirements. Maybe some future ones will as breeders are working on things like better health and hardiness but those weren't necessarily requirements in the past. Bloom form, size and color were more important. Even fragrance got left by the wayside back when.
I have a lot of HTs because I do exhibit some. Some years they're hardy and some years they're not. Depends a lot on the severity of the winter but for the most part they need to be pruned deeply every spring because they are not cane hardy. And NONE of them would I call disease resistant.
If you want real hardiness and disease resistance then you'll need to look at other classes. Julia Child is one I highly recommend for both categories. It's also a beautiful yellow with a good fragrance that blooms all the time. A few others I like for both health and hardiness are:
Quietness
Love Song
Brilliant Pink Iceberg
Home Run
Those are the ones that come back faithfully every spring, bloom all the time and drop the fewest leaves in my garden.
I can't help with all your questions but I can say currently my Sweet Drift are blooming and my Peach drift are not blooming. The Peach bloom a lot less than the Sweet. The Sweet are also taller and wider than the Peach. I'm not losing leaves though and both appear very healthy but then I haven't had your rain. Considering the current height and width I don't expect to have to prune them at all come pruning time.
Your home looks lovely! Contact the local rose society in Atlanta, I know there is one, and ask them what might work better for you. They will know whether this is normal or not for your area.
For me I found that the flower carpet roses did better in my area than the drift roses. They stay short and I hardly ever see a spot on them.
Dianne your PAoK sure looks like the right rose in those pictures. I hope mine will grow to be half that nice and I'll be thrilled. Sorry to bring thread back up again. Just had to tell you how gorgeous your rose is.
Beth did you send a photo to DA? What did they say?
The color seems very light for paok .
Respected rose grower bethnorcal I have a couple of Geoff Hamiltons almost one year passed no blooms. One threw out two inch thick 7 feet tall canes in spring.
My gentle heroines have performed after spring passed. After the summers. In September they bloomed.
I got this lot in January this year. I am in lahore pakistan.
I'm glad your rose recovered with the water treatment. No chemicals are required. My miniature rose looked like yours, because I didn't know what it was early on. Following the advice I received from this forum, I washed the rose daily with water, giving a good spray to the undersides of the leaves. I also cleared any weeds, twigs or other debris around the rose to make it more difficult for the mites to climb up to my plant. It recovered nicely. Now, when I'm watering, I always make sure to wash the underside leaves, because spider mites can quickly defoliate a plant. I was told miniatures are more susceptible.
That's nice to know BraveRichard. I am planning only keep the hardy bands in the basement for 1 winter -6 months (Nov-Apr), then plant them in the garden next spring. The tender roses (shouldn't be growing in my zone) are going to be in the basement every winter. There is one rose I am not sure if I can plant it in the garden now, it's Oct already. It's a La France rose I just got it from ARE last week. It's bigger than 1 gal size, but it's not a hardy rose, there are not many weeks left for it to grow roots in the garden before the winter, so I am going to bring it in with the bands. My 2 car garage is full in the winter, there is no room for more pots. I have 8 bikes (motorcycle/scooters) and 1 summer car in the garage, the 25 potted rose trees will be between the bikes and the car in 2 tiers (they will be on top of each other) plus other 2 potted roses. I wish I have a greenhouse......,or a 3 car garage. :-)
Really like Julie's basement garden, have to find all the stuff this weekend. Winter is coming, today's high is 57.
in my humble opinion , it seems the cane is expanding with age, in the first pic , the rest of the pics show damage and scars, i would wait and see if the buds on the canes grow out then i would let them be, and as they age the scars will improve visually.
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.240476
I MUST share this photo. Beyond words......
Thanks everyone! It's definitely dead even the roots looked dead, and it wasn't that hard to yank up either (which was good for me anyway lol). I have brought a new one and put it in the same spot, so hopefully that one does well. Thanks Kate yeah I made sure there was more space between the wall and the rose, hopefully it grows nice.
Zone 5B is a little too cold for many varieties Hybrid Teas. You may also have issues with a short growing season--they may not have enough time to recover fully from the winter dieback. A short season may be even shorter if the growing location does not get full sun all season. A soil test may provide some clues.
Congrats.
Wonderful! Great picture, too.