22,795 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Yes, I get them. They are soft bodied and the same color as the smaller rose slugs that you find in early summer on bottoms of leaves. They are quite a bit larger but still eat their way up then wrap themselves around a bud and devour it. They keep going until a predator or I discover it.

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

These are our curled rose slugs... They can be found on the underside of leaves, on top of leaves, and in the blooms... Throw these guys on the ground and they crawl right back up on the bush.. (These guys do not make cacoons in the buds...)

Both Spinosad and Safers Insectide Soap work on these guys if used according to directions:

BT will NOT work on these guys..

Of course handpicking them off the bush is an option etc...( kill em)...But hosing them off they would probably just end up crawling back on the bush...

These guys are so large they are easy to watch to understand there habits...

Not true though about the more smaller common rose slug...

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Beth zone 8a Dallas, TX

Absolutely wonderful. Thank you for sharing.

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seil zone 6b MI

Must smell wonderful too!

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braverichard (6a, North MO)

Very few people know about it as it is quite new. From what I've read from just two folks it will need support and over here disease resistance is rock solid. Also it will get to 7 feet tall in zone 6, in your zone it may get much taller. I was thinking about buying it but didn't due to budget, seriously though if you wish to pitch it I'd like to get it from you. That said, why would it be too much trouble for you? Should be a low maintenence plant like Radler's other creations.

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cadiarose(zone 7a, NJ)

My local HDs had quite a few of these in, which greatly surprised me as it is fairly new. Other than curiosity, I wasn't tempted to buy this one as I have no room for a climber. But it did capture my attention.

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sutekesh Switzerland(6a)

It would also be great if members not located in the US and CA could add their country as well as the zone to their user name.

Thanks Sharlene

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sam 5a Adirondack

My zone changed from 4b to 5a

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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Amazing photos, Pat. Wish my Easy Does It looked half as good as yours. Still recommending EDI, though. Ebb Tide is a beautiful floribunda for its color (in cooler weather ) and its scent. Pat, I love your pics of Gruss. Do you grow the pink version, too? That one interests me also, and I wonder if it measures up to the original. Diane

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pat_bamaz7

Thanks! That's one Easy Does It...about 6 years old. Mine gets about 5 to 6 ft tall by about 4 feet wide by end of season. Pictures are from May of this year. Blooms continuously, but always a favorite of the Japanese Beetles, so you wouldn't want to see a picture of it at the moment...currently unrecognizable, but recovers quickly once the bugs are finally gone. Diane, I've had 2 GaA bushes for several years now and love them so much that I wanted to try the pink version. I got it as a band this spring. It's in a 3 gallon pot in a good bit of shade while it grows. Still small with only a handful of blooms so far, so not fair to judge...but I love the color variances of the original and the pink version doesn't seem like it's going to have as much of that.

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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

Well, I'm still a long way from Beth in N Ca standards, but my recent count after the yearly "death march" (to finally decide and pull tags from what didn't survive the winter) brings me to 938, if you count the minis. There is an occasionally circulating thread that jokes about counting roses so they aren't really so many, and not counting minis is one of those tips. Once I get past pruning and planting season, they aren't really that much work, since I don't spray and I simply deadhead and water a little from now to frost.

I've shown a lot of photos from my best years, so here are a few shots of an average rose year that this is turning out to be.

My "east side survivors" - roses in the zone 4 pocket of my house that can handle more extreme temperatures - starring Alexander MacKenzie (pardon the deadheads still hanging in)

Edgar Degas and some friends in the background

Felix LeClerc with some non-rose friends

Garden Delight - one of my new favorite roses

Lunar Mist blooming its little heart out as always

And Sunrise Sunset eating a trellis that got in her way...

Cynthia

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vasue VA(7A Charlottesville)

Just counting these the other day, around about 53 in this perennial garden that includes roses. The majority of these are climbers or climber/shrubs (28), some as pairs. Shrub roses (10) & shrub habit Floribundas (11) add another 21. Hybrid Teas number only 3 - Abbaye de Cluny, Fragrant Cloud & a new-this-year Kordes' Savannah. There's also a NOID (no identification) rose long planted that was incorrectly tagged from the nursery that may fall into any of the former categories. Keep in mind this count was done during an imaginary tour rather than by actual head count, discounted some iffy roses (unsure survival) & is likely inaccurate. Many more were attempted over the years. In this no spray garden, health & tolerance of freeze-thaw cycles (typical in Winter & early Spring) prove essential to beauty, bloom & fragrance.

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countrygirl_sc, Upstate SC(7a)

They will be too young and tender to put out this fall. They won't have time to develop strong roots. I keep mine inside. I have a room in my unheated basement for keeping plants that I have rooted or am rooting.

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Mila Ski (Z5 Chicago)

OK thanks again.

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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

White Cap isn't terrible for blackspot.

Baltimore Belle is quite resistant, but is an enormous once bloomer.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

'The Generous Gardener' has been resistant here for some years. It is fragrant and not a house eater.

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Marlorena-z8 England-

..really nice photos... and good to see some other than roses for a change... amazing at 23F, I didn't think you got that in 10b....... maybe it still gets warm during the day...

...I can see why so many like Devoniensis...

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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

It can get down to freezing here but only very briefly. Day time temp is still in the 40's. I guess maybe I am in between 10a and 10b? I can never see any frosts in my garden though. I think it's because I am so close to the coast.

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fig_insanity Z7a E TN

According to the sources listed in the HMF "buy from" tab, the only nurseries selling it are all in Europe.

John

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

I've had my 3 Pomponellas for eleven years. In my growing season I tend to get 3 to 4 flushes of profuse bloom spring and fall are the best and longest lasting. Like Kate's the hottest part of summer is one of her down times. They make beautiful shrubs for me with very healthy foliage about 6'x6' after a few years. The flowers will ball in very wet humid conditions like this year. But this year is not the norm (not sure if it's ever normal anymore). The flowers are small but many of them. I really like mine.

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mustbnuts zone 9 sunset 9

Nipp, Junco and Patty, Thank you for your responses. I guess I will have to plant them in spots where they can get big. I am excited about getting them and seeing how they will do.

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phylis(z9 CA)

Thanks Cecily, and Pat for your suggestions. :) It's still tiny and quite happy where it is. I might not have to move it for a few more year (in this drought).

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AquaEyes 7a New Jersey

If you planted a band this year, I'd recommend digging it up now and putting it in a pot. It probably hasn't sent roots very far yet, so if you dig a hole big enough, you'll get it all out. I think you'll find it grows faster if babied for a while in a pot, anyway. The few bands I planted directly in the ground have been much slower growing than those I potted up for a while first.

:-)

~Christopher

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rabainsz7bpnw

Try watering them more often and plant a few in feb end or March.. U will definitely get beautiful blooms by June if u water them regularly ...

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mzdee(6b)

I buy bare roots at Aldis from time to time when they clear them out for $1.99. Yes, I'm a fanatic of a bargain shopper :) I suggest soaking them in water for a day or so before planting. And if the weather warrants it, plant them in pots. You can transfer in the early fall. I'm hardly an expert, but I am fearless. Plants are living things and every living thing is coded to survive. Don't give up. Water em and let nature take its course. Also, I'm not seeing much mulch going on. If that is the case, you'll want to mulch well, especially for the height of the summer months.

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Desertgarden-Las Vegas, Z9a

Speaking of red hot heat, here are stats regarding heat in U.S. cities.

Highest Temperatures

Large US cities where the temperature most often climbs to 100 °F (37.8 °C) or higher.

City Days a Year Above 99 °F

Phoenix, Arizona 107

Las Vegas, Nevada 70

Riverside, California 24

Dallas, Texas 17

Austin, Texas 16

Sacramento, California 11

Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 11

San Antonio, Texas 8

Salt Lake City, Utah 5

Houston, Texas 4

Kansas City, Missouri 3

Warmest Climates

Twelve major US cities have a daily mean temperature above 65 °F (18 °C)

City Daily Average

°F °C

Miami, Florida 77 25

Phoenix, Arizona 75 24

Tampa, Florida 73 23

Orlando, Florida 73 23

Houston, Texas 70 21

New Orleans, Louisiana 70 21

San Antonio, Texas 70 21

Austin, Texas 69 21

Las Vegas, Nevada 69 21

Jacksonville, Florida 69 20

Dallas, Texas 67 20

Riverside, California 67 19

Cities with temperatures of at least 50 °F (10 °C) nearly every day City Days a Year Above 49 °F

Los Angeles, California 365

Miami, Florida 365

San Diego, California 365

Riverside, California 365

Phoenix, Arizona 365

Orlando, Florida 364

Tampa, Florida 364

San Jose, California 362

Jacksonville, Florida 360

San Francisco, California 360

Hottest Days Cities with the highest average daily maximum temperature City Average High°F°C

Phoenix, Arizona 87.2 30.7

Miami, Florida 84.3 29.1

Orlando, Florida 82.8 28.2

Tampa, Florida 81.7 27.6

Riverside, California 80.9 27.2

San Antonio, Texas 80.3 26.8

Las Vegas, Nevada 80.1 26.7

Austin, Texas 79.8 26.6

Houston, Texas 79.7 26.5

Jacksonville, Florida 79.3 26.3

New Orleans, Louisiana 78.2 25.7

Dallas, Texas 77.0 25.0

Los Angeles, California 75.2 24.0

Lynn

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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Hi Cynthia,
Thanks for your sympathy on the flattened plants. I always gather hollyhock seed and throw it out in fall, late winter, and early spring. between that and the reseeding they naturally do (the ones still standing, I end up with hollyhocks everywhere, all lovely doubles in a tremendous variety of mostly soft colors. Virtually every year, by the middle of July, I have lost about half of them because this is also a very windy place, made worse by being out in the hills on a hilltop.
just was out tying up more plants and about died of heat stroke. It's not the 60s anymore, and the changes are hard on the old body.
The goats are creeping ever closer to my back yard, as their owners move the temp fences across the gulley. I don't know how far they'll let them up the hill. It's going to be interesting, and my photographer (granddaughter) is in Oregon right now.
Diane

Sorry about the misplacement of the pic.

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