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Ping Lim no longer works with Bailey's. I had read that Bailey's was investing less in the rose business. About cried when I read this. Was afraid these gorgeous healthy roses would be become difficult to find. Mr. Lim's website indicates that his roses may purchased directly from him but I did not exactly understand the process. If anyone else does please let me know. They also appear to be selling them grafted. I like own root.
This post was edited by pattyw5 on Sun, Nov 9, 14 at 19:13

Last year we bought a Como Park rose and planted it in a border along the front of our yard . It was full of beautiful flowers all summer . This spring it's very hearty and has two runners approximately 2 to 3 feet from the original plant. Has anyone else experienced having runners ? I cannot remember which retailer we purchased it from . Does anyone know where the Easy Elegance roses are sold ?

I found this page when searching after noticing earwigs around our newly planted bushes here in a Greece. They are reddish rather than dark as in Ontario, Canada. There are only a few just yet and I appreciate the many suggestions to combat them if they become a menace to the plants.
On a note to Jeri in ER. I remember candelling the ears of a friend of mine who came complaining of feeling that something was inside and sure enough what was drawn out was part of a earwig - the unmistakable horned bit. So just to know there is a quick, safe and easy remedy for much more than earwigs. Thanks for all the good advice!


There are two different things. The leaves with dark spots have a fungus disease, probably cercospora spot. This is usually not very aggressive. I would just pick off the spotted leaves and wait for the weather to change.
The general paling to yellow-green could be from too much water or too little nitrogen or some other nutritional issue..
When you bring questions here, please tell us where you live. Also a sharp closeup of a spotted leaf and a pale leaf might help someone improve on my guesswork.

Don't know enough to say anyting on the third picture. But your first two pictures look fine to me. I don't spray and you should see my roses later during the year.. :) I would not be bothered by the first two pictures. Where I live, foliage fogual disease is par far course.


I have had My Eden( I have Two) for Three yrs I think ,last year I had to cut her down severely. One looks pretty dead and the other Alive . If I ever see L.D. Braithwaite definitely getting it I need another red DA. What are your view on Evelyn or Heritage

I haven't had any of them long enough to judge. They're all new this season. Jude isn't even here yet!
Haven't been to Vandermeer but a lady I met through the local iris society works there on weekends, so I definitely plan to go this year and say hello.

I was hoping someone would say five, four would be okay, I hope it doesn't stay as short as three where I want to plant it. My other solution would be to just pot it, but I really think this rose would look prettiest in the ground.


I'm sorry to hear that Sean McCann passed away. He once interviewed me by e-mail for his column in the American Rose. A very nice gentleman but I had some trouble explaining that my conditions for growing roses were not quite as hard as on the same latitude in Alaska.
I've never tried to breed roses even for fun. But a friend gave me a nice cross between a rugosa and a gallica she found in her garden. It's perhaps 'Louise Bugnet x L'Evêque and some some years it's the first rose to bloom in spring. Pink, of course. 

Thanks for sharing your lovely front deck outlook with us - next best to actually being there with a cup of tea or a contemplative glass of something...
Should you want any of your older roses ID'd at any time, we do quite like having a go at this on the Antique Roses forum. I always learn a lot that way. (Post photo of whole shrub plus clear close-ups of buds, flowers front and side view, canes/prickles, and complete leaf sets, along with info on scent, rebloom, and estimated year or decade planted.)
Thanks again for sharing your garden pictures.
Comtesse :¬)



Kublakan how do you do it!!? I find that the roses I purchase never look as good or bloom as large for me as they did when I bought them. I can't imagine getting one already dying as I'd be sure to kill it. Lol
I do admit that I've learned a lot in the past year and am having much more success but I still struggle with many of my roses. If it's not the black spot it's the chili thrips. Or the spider mites. Aye yay yai!

I'd vote for Sugar Moon just for her fragrance! She's divine but she can also get huge! Mine gets 8 feet tall and keeps going (I cut her by a third after each flush or she'd be even bigger). I'm not familiar with JFK, but I can tell you Kordes Perfecta is a perfecta Diva. Mine is stingy to bloom and slow growing. And a black spot magnet to boot. She's also not white at all. Maybe it was mislabeled? She's tipped with purple/pink. She does have some magnificent blooms when you get them. But they are few and far between.

I took all your photos and blew them up to examine carefully and that rose looks pretty healthy to me! If there's anything on those leaves it's not hurting it. It could just be dust and dirt. I would suggest a good hard spray of water from the hose to wash them off. I do this weekly on mine to keep the leaves clean. It's said to help prevent fungal infections by rinsing off the spores. I do it because I think a clean leaf is probably better able to produce food than a dirty one.
The new growth at the tops of the canes will always look a little different from the older growth and MANY varieties have reddish or purplish new growth that slowly turns green as it matures. Often times new growth will be a lighter shade of green that darkens with age and sometimes they will be green with a red edging. Every variety is different so watch your roses and learn what each one's new growth is like.
Rose hips take between 90 and 120 days to ripen and not all rose hips turn color when they ripen. Some varieties will remain green. You don't say if this rose only blooms once a season or repeats through the season but if it is a repeat blooming rose and you want to encourage the rose to bloom more often remove those hips and dead head the spent blooms as soon as they fade.
The canes don't look diseased to me either. They look like old canes that have gotten bark like. I really don't see anything fuzzy or fungal there. It just looks like old bark.
I do agree that you need to get rid of the stones. They're not helping things. In your zone you don't want anything that increases heat and sun reflection. A nice pine mulch will keep the root ball much cooler and moister and will not reflect more light up onto the top growth.

Thank you all for the outpour of support! I removed the stones and set mulch in their place during the weekend. I also deadheaded the rose hips and did some pruning to remove the silvery leaves. My most recent bloom has outlived the previous ones and more buds are appearing. I will look into purchasing fish fertilizer this week. I'm looking forward to seeing the plant fluorish during the summer months.

I have the Botanica roses and it is a great book. However, I find that these days my main source of info comes from this forum and Helpmefind site. Books are a wonderful source of info but the problem is you don't get to read how the same rose does in different areas especially in your local zone. The same rose may be wonderful across the pond but a source of scourge in your garden. The other book I have is 500 roses for the Canadian gardeners.


Yes that can happen if the rose was delivered in a peat substrata not containing wetting agent that dried up before getting watered. The trick in such cases is to soak the rootball thoroughly in a bucket of water squeezing gently until bubbles stop coming out.
Thank you everyone this is what I have done so far to my poor plant....I buit it a little raised garden bed till I can get the rest of it cleaned out around it and plant more flowers. This spot gets sun most of the Day...it doesn't look pretty right now but I plan on fixing that soon. This was all I had around the house right now.