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kentucky_rose zone 6

Very nice!

1 Like    Bookmark     May 5, 2015 at 5:43PM
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comtessedelacouche (10b S.Australia: hotdryMedclimate)

Thanks for sharing your lovely front deck outlook with us - next best to actually being there with a cup of tea or a contemplative glass of something...

Should you want any of your older roses ID'd at any time, we do quite like having a go at this on the Antique Roses forum. I always learn a lot that way. (Post photo of whole shrub plus clear close-ups of buds, flowers front and side view, canes/prickles, and complete leaf sets, along with info on scent, rebloom, and estimated year or decade planted.)

Thanks again for sharing your garden pictures.

Comtesse :¬)

1 Like    Bookmark     May 5, 2015 at 10:45PM Thanked by James_Shaw_San Francisco Bay Area
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kidhorn2

It's probably not RRD, but it could be. I would wait and see if turns to normal looking after a few weeks. RRD can take on so many appearances it's tough to diagnose unless it's really obvious.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2015 at 11:35AM
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mark_roeder(4B IA)

It looks as if you have a rose bud. Growth around the bud looks normal.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2015 at 10:18PM
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nummykitchen(Z5B)

I have to agree with everyone else. Beautiful pastel blooms but not a vigorous plant at all here up north. I am zone 5b, mine made it a couple of winters, coming back weaker and finally giving up.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2015 at 2:04PM
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SoFL Rose z10

Kublakan how do you do it!!? I find that the roses I purchase never look as good or bloom as large for me as they did when I bought them. I can't imagine getting one already dying as I'd be sure to kill it. Lol

I do admit that I've learned a lot in the past year and am having much more success but I still struggle with many of my roses. If it's not the black spot it's the chili thrips. Or the spider mites. Aye yay yai!

    Bookmark     May 5, 2015 at 7:38PM
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SoFL Rose z10

I'd vote for Sugar Moon just for her fragrance! She's divine but she can also get huge! Mine gets 8 feet tall and keeps going (I cut her by a third after each flush or she'd be even bigger). I'm not familiar with JFK, but I can tell you Kordes Perfecta is a perfecta Diva. Mine is stingy to bloom and slow growing. And a black spot magnet to boot. She's also not white at all. Maybe it was mislabeled? She's tipped with purple/pink. She does have some magnificent blooms when you get them. But they are few and far between.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2015 at 7:24PM
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kentucky_rose zone 6

Wait til next year if you can't find PJPII.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2015 at 7:36PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I took all your photos and blew them up to examine carefully and that rose looks pretty healthy to me! If there's anything on those leaves it's not hurting it. It could just be dust and dirt. I would suggest a good hard spray of water from the hose to wash them off. I do this weekly on mine to keep the leaves clean. It's said to help prevent fungal infections by rinsing off the spores. I do it because I think a clean leaf is probably better able to produce food than a dirty one.

The new growth at the tops of the canes will always look a little different from the older growth and MANY varieties have reddish or purplish new growth that slowly turns green as it matures. Often times new growth will be a lighter shade of green that darkens with age and sometimes they will be green with a red edging. Every variety is different so watch your roses and learn what each one's new growth is like.

Rose hips take between 90 and 120 days to ripen and not all rose hips turn color when they ripen. Some varieties will remain green. You don't say if this rose only blooms once a season or repeats through the season but if it is a repeat blooming rose and you want to encourage the rose to bloom more often remove those hips and dead head the spent blooms as soon as they fade.

The canes don't look diseased to me either. They look like old canes that have gotten bark like. I really don't see anything fuzzy or fungal there. It just looks like old bark.

I do agree that you need to get rid of the stones. They're not helping things. In your zone you don't want anything that increases heat and sun reflection. A nice pine mulch will keep the root ball much cooler and moister and will not reflect more light up onto the top growth.

1 Like    Bookmark     May 3, 2015 at 9:53AM
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S.Delia

Thank you all for the outpour of support! I removed the stones and set mulch in their place during the weekend. I also deadheaded the rose hips and did some pruning to remove the silvery leaves. My most recent bloom has outlived the previous ones and more buds are appearing. I will look into purchasing fish fertilizer this week. I'm looking forward to seeing the plant fluorish during the summer months.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2015 at 7:07PM
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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

I have the Botanica roses and it is a great book. However, I find that these days my main source of info comes from this forum and Helpmefind site. Books are a wonderful source of info but the problem is you don't get to read how the same rose does in different areas especially in your local zone. The same rose may be wonderful across the pond but a source of scourge in your garden. The other book I have is 500 roses for the Canadian gardeners.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2015 at 6:57PM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

If it was my garden, I would leave the roses for now and plan to move in the fall when rain is in the forecast. Riverside gets very hot and dry and with water restrictions you may end up losing more to the dr

    Bookmark     May 5, 2015 at 4:51PM
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Gary(USDA ZONE = 9b SUNSET ZONE = 18 (Riverside, CA, USA))

In March, I bought seventy 2-cu-ft bags of bark for a 4-inch layer of mulch to prevent weeds from growing in my garden. I want to apply the bark after I improve the soil and re-locate the roses. (Also, the bark bags are taking up valuable car-space in my garage).

    Bookmark     May 5, 2015 at 5:49PM
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kaesgarden(Wa Cascades Zone 7)

Thank you on all accounts! I'll do a bit of hard trimming and see if they don't liven up a bit. I also gave my roses a banana for the potassium as a treat so i'm hoping once the weather perks up and taking all your suggestions and applying them to the bushes. I hope to see some wonderful improvements. Thank you again, for your kind words. :)

    Bookmark     May 4, 2015 at 8:46PM
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bluegirl_gw

What Cynthia said. They don't look like they're dying, just look like old, somewhat neglected bushes.
I'd take out all dead wood--including trimming off those stumps of canes that have already been whacked--take off that dead stump part. Gentle fertilizing, as you've already done (bananas are good), keep them watered well so the fertilizer doesn't burn. Add more mulch before your hottest weather (but not on top of the canes).
And gradually, like one cane, once a year or so, I'd start removing those old woody canes. They're pretty crowded & if you let new basals grow up instead, the rose will be rejuvenating itself & be more productive of new growth & flowers.
I bet they'll be fine. Best wishes for your mother's recovery. Sounds like things have been rough.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2015 at 1:32PM Thanked by kaesgarden
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

All of my mail orders came in the last two weeks. It's been planting time. When I take my trip I like to start with Lowes in Dekalb. Then hit The Perennial Place in Naperville followed by Chalet Nursery. Now I can check an Ace Hardware as well. The goal is to return home with at least one plant that I have not grown before.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2015 at 7:40AM
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Dingo2001 - Z5 Chicagoland(5)

Oh a day of nursery shopping! How fun! If you are cutting through Des Plains on your way to Chalet, Pesche's and Lurvey's are right next to each other, they sometimes have some good stuff. I haven't been in either one yet this year.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2015 at 1:06PM
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kidhorn2

Plants without leaves don't need water. Unless the soil is bone dry, I generally don't water bare roots until they have several full size leaves. Too much water can be bad for the roots.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2015 at 11:30AM
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sam 4b Adirondacks

Nice! Its looks good Ness. Now you can enjoy.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2015 at 12:44PM
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jasminerose4u, California(9b)

Just have to say, those are beautiful roses!

    Bookmark     May 4, 2015 at 7:31PM Thanked by omniavanitas_caz9
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Yes, they are beautiful and lush. I'm sorry about the kids--they are worse than deer sometimes. Diane

    Bookmark     May 5, 2015 at 12:01AM Thanked by omniavanitas_caz9
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jasminerose4u, California(9b)

Hi Chris: Are these new roses or are you taking care of roses that are already established? Paul Zimmerman has many helpful videos. Here is one that got me started: Own Root First Season The title is about own-root roses, but I think much of the information applies to all young roses. Young roses need more water and less fertilizer than established roses, so that they can focus on growing roots. Here's a video on rose pruning: Introduction to Rose Pruning. Good luck. Roses are tougher than you might think and this forum is a great resource.

    Bookmark     May 4, 2015 at 7:12PM
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Chris Olson

Yes they are and thank you! :)

    Bookmark     May 4, 2015 at 7:22PM
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jacqueline9CA

Thanks so much Emily! So far the only thing which has worked temporarily in my garden is that rotten egg spray, and you have to keep putting it on the new growth. Of course, in addition to new leaves, what they like best best best is rose buds!

Jackie

    Bookmark     May 4, 2015 at 2:41PM
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summersrhythm_z6a

Thanks for the tip! :-) I will tie some bags in the back yard, for the front, I am ordering some small wind socks for the gardens. I have been spray Liquid Fence every 3 days, I have rabbits issues, and the other day saw 3 deers 50' away. Deer Stop didn't work for me. None of them are cheap, $33-38 a bottle.

    Bookmark     May 4, 2015 at 5:05PM
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

Flamingo Dancer is wonderful. I hope your Vick's Caprice perks up. It may just need time to acclimate. Occhi di Fata is very pretty. St. Elizabeth does best in full afternoon shade. I love the rose but in a hot climate it's pretty iffy.

    Bookmark     May 4, 2015 at 2:09PM Thanked by mustbnuts zone 9 sunset 9
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mustbnuts zone 9 sunset 9

Thanks Ingrid. I read about your efforts with SE after I purchased her. Now, I can't even remember why or what attracted me to her in the first place, to get her for my yard. I will let her grow for at least a year and see if I want to shovel prune her. I hope Vick perks up too. I love his flower and it makes a great cut flower as well. I am not sure what his problem is! Occhi--I have never seen a rose that is one color on one side of the petal and the same petal is a different color on the other side. One side pink and one side white. What a rose! I think this rose is going to do very well here. I am excited about this one and I was very unsure about whether or not to get him/her.

    Bookmark     May 4, 2015 at 3:30PM
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