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Opinions will differ on whether to prune, but all the canes contain stored nutrients that can help the plant refoliate. If you don't prune, new growth will come mostly at the top, which may look awkward, but IMO that approach will lead to a more vigorous plant.
The picture shows leaves dying of blackspot disease. If the weather turns hotter and drier, this problem should decrease. However, there are highly effective synthetic fungicides that will stop it from spreading and will not burn the foliage. If you are comfortable using these, I recommend any product containing only propiconazole or tebuconazole. I use Bayer Advanced Disease Control for Roses, Flowers, and Shrubs. Don't buy any of the Bayer combo products (All-in-One, etc.) that are featured at the box stores..
You may have over-fertilized with the fish. We recommend little or no fertilizer for the first months.
Also, you may have burned foliage with "a variety of organic products," although I don't see any symptoms in the picture (purple smears or tan dry areas). Fungicides called "organic" (oil, sulfur, copper, bicarbonate) are less effective and more likely to burn than the best synthetic products. Also some of them are incompatible with others. You can get by with one of them if used with caution, but please don't throw a bunch of stuff from the pantry at the roses.
I have Scepter'd Isle in the neighboring state of Nebraska, and it's a pretty resilient rose. Mine recovers from winter damage without hesitation and in a normal year the blackspot isn't too bad. As Kate said, this hasn't been a normal year with record precipitation and gloom, so don't worry too much about less than perfect foliage. Giving it some water at the base, watering deeply but not necessarily every day, will wash away some of the over-fertilization Michael is talking about. The holes in the leaves are rose slugs, and they are little green worms under the leaves. If they bother you, you can pick them out or spray all over the undersides of the leaves to wash them out. For my part, I just wait for the birds and good bugs to take care of them. They don't really hurt the rose, just make the leaves look a little goofy.
Give it time to settle in - whatever conditions you have are different than in the nursery where you bought it, so you need to be patient as it settles in and not give it too much fussing with things like fertilizers. Water and the mulch around the drip line is mostly what it wants.
Cynthia
I'm in So CA by Disneyland so I can't comment on cold but I like my Jasmina very much. She grows in a Crepe Myrtle tree and the flowers hang down like lovely wisteria blooms. The little stems are thin at first but in a few years will get thicker. I just kept braiding them together until the shoots were thick enough to go straight up without flopping. She still wants to grow sideways sometimes. She has super catchy little hooks so wear old clothes gloves and goggles. I don't get any rebloom but maybe because I cant get up there to cut off the old flowers. This is probably most spectacular on a low fence where she can spread wide and you can remove the old blooms. I have her growing high because the flower clusters hang down and I like looking up into them.
In bloom this is one beautiful shrub/climber
I saw this rose the first time at a local nursery. I've been wanting this rose but now that I see the flowers in person, I have to say I am a bit disappointed. Then again, the blooms were old and fading soon so it is not a new open blooms. Can anyone who grow this rose share what they think of this rose now.
Nah, I won't throw in the towel because of a few pests - I won't let them bully me ;) I too have found it to be relaxing & a stress reliever, even if it may cause a stroke, lol! Plus I have lots of paper wasps/parasitic wasps, bumblebees, songbirds, etc, to take care of the pests. I do, however, need to find some native plants to attract more as well as plants to keep pests at bay.
Being a beginner at roses, as well as having a certain mindset that they are difficult to maintain (as my mother always said but I'm overcoming), I've been babying them, need to let nature do its thing & sit back to enjoy my work thus far. I do thoroughly enjoy everything that comes with it: pruning, dead heading, making my own trellises, I even enjoy watering :)
Thanks for the encouragement & input; that's enough to keep me moving forward!
Nic
P.S. I've checked for pests today & found nothing, but would've let them be if I did ;)
I purchased this rose (Melody Parfumée) from a local nursery called Plant Ranch Nursery. I don't think they grow their own roses though. Most of the Fortuniana roses I get from local nurseries or hardware stores seem to come from Nelson's I think, since there's usually some sort of Nelson's sticker on the pot.
OTM is a much prettier bush than Valencia and for my placement I need that. Compared to Valencia, OTM blooms much more often, it hasn't stopped blooming continuously this summer. And the huge blooms last a long time in the vase, nearing a week or so. And OTM is thriving and blooming in a seacoast location continually hit by salt spray! I can't tell you how many perennials, bushes and even grasses cannot withstand these conditions.
Valencia does have an unusual bloom form which I still love and miss.
Thanks again Pat!
Thanks rosecanadian! Here's a better photo of it's colour during cooler weather, I would say this is pretty accurate:
I noticed the blooms appear more reddish when it is cool, and appear more pink when it is hot.
Although not nearly as impressive as many of the roses I have seen on this forum, in my opinion this is one of the best I can get for this zone. A bit unrelated - I stumbled across stunning photos of Eden/Pierre de Ronsard and I'm tempted to move somewhere warmer just to grow it!
Thank you for the info, it's very interesting to see the different experiences. I'm lucky to be in a low blackspot area. Yes, the blooms don't seem to like getting wet. Lol, I forgot the check HMF on this one, there is some great info there, more comments than compared to some other roses.
It's done blooming and in a leaf growth stage for me now. I hope it blooms again.
Yes, a lovely healthy rugosa rose. The only thing I would do if it were mine is dig up the weeds under it, and replace them with mulch. It is TRUE that rugosas HATE to be sprayed with anything, and it is not necessary. If you leave those finished blooms, they will set lovely large hips which will also be beautiful.
Jackie
Nana, those are stunning! And all the more beautiful as a pair.
Thanks so much, hosta, I just love Julia. Diane