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Hi Chris: Are these new roses or are you taking care of roses that are already established? Paul Zimmerman has many helpful videos. Here is one that got me started: Own Root First Season The title is about own-root roses, but I think much of the information applies to all young roses. Young roses need more water and less fertilizer than established roses, so that they can focus on growing roots. Here's a video on rose pruning: Introduction to Rose Pruning. Good luck. Roses are tougher than you might think and this forum is a great resource.

Thanks so much Emily! So far the only thing which has worked temporarily in my garden is that rotten egg spray, and you have to keep putting it on the new growth. Of course, in addition to new leaves, what they like best best best is rose buds!
Jackie

Thanks for the tip! :-) I will tie some bags in the back yard, for the front, I am ordering some small wind socks for the gardens. I have been spray Liquid Fence every 3 days, I have rabbits issues, and the other day saw 3 deers 50' away. Deer Stop didn't work for me. None of them are cheap, $33-38 a bottle.

Flamingo Dancer is wonderful. I hope your Vick's Caprice perks up. It may just need time to acclimate. Occhi di Fata is very pretty. St. Elizabeth does best in full afternoon shade. I love the rose but in a hot climate it's pretty iffy.

Thanks Ingrid. I read about your efforts with SE after I purchased her. Now, I can't even remember why or what attracted me to her in the first place, to get her for my yard. I will let her grow for at least a year and see if I want to shovel prune her. I hope Vick perks up too. I love his flower and it makes a great cut flower as well. I am not sure what his problem is! Occhi--I have never seen a rose that is one color on one side of the petal and the same petal is a different color on the other side. One side pink and one side white. What a rose! I think this rose is going to do very well here. I am excited about this one and I was very unsure about whether or not to get him/her.

I don't think I've ever seen Lovely Fairy. Michael says it's a sport of The Fairy, so I'm assuming the growth habits are the same.
Zones alone are almost worthless. Zone + state + part of state if the state is large tells us a lot about what climatic conditions the rose has to deal with, which is why we all include it.

Thank you so very much... Aware of two roses "GN" and "Souvenir de GN" - not ordering this rose.
I am in Southern CA, about 7 miles from the beach a bit up the hill, so may be "Gilbert" wouldn't get mildew-:) here.
I've decided to order Gilbert Nabonnand and Pink Gruss an Aachen... I liked this rose so much. I will not plant either or... near my cement wall. "Gruss" will go into a big ceramic pot for the moment and "Gilbert" will go into the ground on the opposite, sunny side of the yard, where he could grow 6 ft. wide and as tall:) as he wants and be beautiful.
I left "Strike It Reach", even severely underdeveloped, in that corner. Let's see if it's looks are going to imrove in another year. If nothing good happens, perhaps a good sport of a modern rose, bought in a 5-gal. container, will have a better start and, eventually, succeed there.
Again, I thank you from the bottom of my heart... and hope you'd forgive me for being such a BIG pain.
Kindest and warmest -:))
Paola

havent tried to root any since I have so many.....what I can tell you is that the pink is the only spreading groundcover type and it does spread. the pics I originally posted of the pink were cut back in January to 1/3 the size shown (this is suggested by the hybridizer) and when the stems get so heavy with buds and blooms, they touch the ground and presto.....they root! the sweet doesnt spread like the pink but it sprawls and gets bigger and bigger and the stems root all by themselves. in fact, I've had little plants keep coming up after the mother bush has been moved. msrose and beth, I would send you some cuttings of the original white drift if I knew how to reach you.


They are darling, but probably much less so when you wake up one morning and half of your roses have been nibbled to the ground. Rather than killing them I wish there were some way to "shoot" the does with a dart that will render them sterile. Much less grief for everyone concerned.

Heirloom lists it but out of stock. I live in Oklahoma. It had covered the whole plant but it still froze. We had a very cold winter that year. I was excited when I saw buds but shocked when they were red. I've left it but really would like to have my white lightnin's back. They smell so wonderful. Thank you for the posts.

Another fan of White Lightnin' from years past, also looking to add to this garden. Plan to call Roses Unlimited (own root gallons) to check availability myself. One good thing about own roots is that if the branches freeze out, the rose that grows back will be the original & not the rootstock (likely Dr. Huey is your case). http://www.rosesunlimitedownroot.com/alphabetical_list.htm
The description at HelpMeFind lists 7b as its lowest hardiness range, but under the Member Comments tab, a contributor mentions it grows well for them in zone 5 Colorado.

A rosarian said to prune the heck out of my roses. I have mostly shrubs so I'm used to a lot of flowers. Suffice it to say I didn't appreciate the vast reduction in blooms. Maybe that's just for HT's, like she grows. Being that I'm not interested in spraying every week like she does, I grow carefree, disease-free shrub roses.

When pruning, the inside of the cut of the stem dictates how far to prune. The inside of the stem should be a creamy white color. IF not keep going down. The new growth will not be supported, if the wood is not good. Almost every rose I have got cut to the ground because of the winter we had. My plants are coming up good. The only rose I have that didn't get cut are my Species Rugosa's HARD PRUNING WILL NOT HARM THE PLANT.
You said shrubs/ Knockouts were cut to the ground this year, so were my English roses. The nice thing about shrubs is they are on their own roots, well most of them are!!!
I lost my OSO Happy rose.




Thanks Patty. I like the bare root roses I got, I planted them today. This was my first time ordering from them, when I ordered them I didn't see anything about bands. Thanks for the clarification. I ordered 25+ bands last year, they are still bands. Will get some compost to help them grow.

The secret's in the sauce. I mean the soil. Anyway, I use Sta-Green's Flower and Vegetable Garden Soil in 2 cu. ft. bags. Lowe's carries it and since I have a Lowe's just 1 1/2 miles from my front door, that's where I do most of my garden shopping.
This is how I mix my soil; In my wheel barrow I empty 1/2 bag of soil (1 cu. ft.), throw 3 shovel's full of sand and 1 shovel full of finely ground down dry native soil (red clay). 1 big hand full of leaf's (mostly oak) that I keep from my winter protection Mix it all together good and I've got my planting soil. Nothing fancy but my roses seem to like it. I have roses grafted on to Fortuniana, Dr. Huey, Multiflora plus own root. Everything seems happy.
Bet----Thank you for the Barrone and yes, I'll definitely take that seedling of Waterfall off your hands. It'll have a good home here. See you in a couple of weeks.

Just happened to think, not ALL my roses get my mix. My Rugosa's get something quite different. Mostly sand. Wheel barrow, 10 big shovels of sand, 2 shovels of bagged soil, 2 shovels of native soil and a big hand full of leafs. Mix it all together and you have great Rugosa soil (at least in my garden).






Just have to say, those are beautiful roses!
Yes, they are beautiful and lush. I'm sorry about the kids--they are worse than deer sometimes. Diane