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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Out of all the roses I received this year Ivors's Rose is growing like crazy. Got 2 of them for two separate spots both are growing the same.

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SoFL Rose z10

Mine is very vigorous, but so far not a big bloomer. Although I think its because I keep hacking her down to try and keep her tame in the spot I put her in. I may have to move her.

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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

Niagara peninsula is *warm*. It is almost zone 7, so just because something if flourishing there DOES NOT mean it is hardy. It really is the Canadian version of the Jersey Shore.

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summersrhythm_z6a

Thanks for mentioning it, I didn't know that. :-)

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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

Thanks to all for your replies. I will give it a chance to see how it does in the years to come. I planted it in a corner away from everything...lol. It looks happy so far. It has been a cooler summer than average so that may explain the whiter blooms. To be fair, it has been continually blooming for two weeks now with snow white flowers (hopefully it isn't mislabelled) but the individual blooms drops its petals after a few days. Well worst come to worst, if I don't like it, I can at least say that I have satisfied my "craving" to grow this rose.

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irisgal_z9

I was convinced from all I read it would be the perfect climber. Not. Flowers were light pink until noon? First rose I've deliberately removed. Since then I pay attention only to "rose praise" here on the forum.

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stillanntn6b

Watch for a color change in the blooms of Knock-Outs and a change in the way that sprays bloom. Also in foliage color.

Right now, it looks good and healthy.

One problem with Knockouts is that they continue to bloom with RRD, but the quantity, timing and color change as well as the sepal forms. But the bloom is still there, only it's different and gets worse.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2015 at 8:36AM
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Jennifer Tidwell

I had some witches brooms on my white Lady Banks. I hope I got it in time. :( (I'm in MS) I cut it back nearly to the ground and it's starting to grow back. I'm hoping I don't have to dig up and burn the whole thing.

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Marigold33

Thank Patty, that helps a lot. I was hoping she wouldn't be a black spot magnet. Is fish emulsion safe for rugosas?

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

The fertilizer that hurts them the most are chemical ferts. They don't like salts and high nitrogen. I would add fish fertilizer to the soil. Personally prefer not spraying on leaves.

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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Hi enchanted, it's Diane again. Previously I had suggested that Lauren's Grape poppy was a wonderful plant of the most gorgeous color. Lauren Ogden, a well known garden writer, seed expert, and book author is the developer of this poppy which she selected for over and over in her own garden, till she got the pure strain for Lauren's Grape seed. It's widely available now, but my favorite seeds are from the company, Renee's Garden, and they call their seeds, Lauren's Dark Grape, and it is a rich and dark color. These are annuals and bloom briefly, but the plant can fit about anywhere. The leaves are a beautiful silvery color, and I love the "pepper shaker" seed pod that develops. Let the plant reseed or gather seeds after the pod is ripe, and scatter in late winter or very early spring. Here are a couple of pics, taken by my talented granddaughter. There was a little too much sun the day these were taken. If you've seen my photos, I should mention that every one of them she photographed. DianeLauren's Dark Grape poppyLauren's Dark Grape Poppy
Diane

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enchantedrosez6

Thanks all for the suggestions. I also saw purple "million bells" planted at the base of roses with groundcover herbs. It was very pretty.

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Sharon

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summersrhythm_z6a

Yep, they're still pretty pricey. I paid a ton for my KOs. I hope he can make some fragrant KOs........ :-)

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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

Great timing Jeri. This information should be useful to the poster who wanted to start his garden business in another thread.

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KarenPA_6b

I also got botrytis on my roses. It has been raining at least 3 days out of a week for the last month. Thunderstorms here and there and humidity have caused brown edges on most of my rose blooms since the spring flush. What have helped my roses to minimize botrytis spread is cutting off the affected blooms and deadheading as soon as I see signs of browned edges.

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sam 4b Adirondacks

I secondly agree . Half of my blooms look like this too. I use the secateurs for remediation.

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Do I have Two types of roses on one bush?
Posted by Janette Eagle June 21, 2015
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nochintami

when the black one started to bloom,it was red..so there are 2 colours in a tree.pink and red..then slowly..the red turned black..and the pinks didnt turn to black..after few days..still pink..

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Jeremy Streich

jerijen - Yeah, that looks like Multifora to me, too.

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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

It sounds like you have done your part, and now the thing to do is to be patient and let the rose do its.

I'm not usually a fan of peat moss, but there are times when it is the thing to use. Lightening and acidifying soil is one of those times.

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braverichard (6a, North MO)

Will do, plant is growing well and looks healthy. Will just wait!

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Alisha Malik

Hello there, I am planning to buy a new rose and plant it at where the balloon is. Do you think it would be okay or do you think it would damage the old rose?

The reason that I am thinking of buying a new rose is because I don't want my front door to look very empty but I don't want to give up the old rose too.

I will change the soils and apply fertilizers etc.

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Alisha Malik

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sharon2079

Thank you for the information. I will not use the sulfur or the copper. They kind of scared me that I could kill the rose. I know I have treated them as annuals, but only because they died of natural causes. I will try and save up and get these other fungicides that were mentioned.

So very much appreciative of the information.

Thank you

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SoFL Rose z10

Oh of course, I forgot to mention that Honor Guard is Banner Maxx. I actually use Honor Guard, not banner maxx. Its way cheaper.

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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

Maybe I should be happy that my garden rabbit (who lives in the boxwoods behind my front roses and ends up being very polite about them!) has been leaving many presents in my roses ;)

Michael, I've killed little plants, including roses, by using mushroom compost in their pots and figured it was the pH. Everything else seemed perfect, but a few of them didn't like something at all! I used it instead of composted manure in my usual pot mix I make.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Thanks to subk3 for the informative post above.

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seil zone 6b MI

Try posting this over on Antiques. They're good at IDing these old roses.

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bstraight96

Thanks!!!

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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

I think I'd try to cut it off, the canes there and all. I don't know exactly what it is, but those canes won't hurt being cut shorter.

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ricvek

Thank you. I will do that tomorrow.

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