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Thanks rosecanadian! Here's a better photo of it's colour during cooler weather, I would say this is pretty accurate:
I noticed the blooms appear more reddish when it is cool, and appear more pink when it is hot.
Although not nearly as impressive as many of the roses I have seen on this forum, in my opinion this is one of the best I can get for this zone. A bit unrelated - I stumbled across stunning photos of Eden/Pierre de Ronsard and I'm tempted to move somewhere warmer just to grow it!
Thank you for the info, it's very interesting to see the different experiences. I'm lucky to be in a low blackspot area. Yes, the blooms don't seem to like getting wet. Lol, I forgot the check HMF on this one, there is some great info there, more comments than compared to some other roses.
It's done blooming and in a leaf growth stage for me now. I hope it blooms again.
Yes, a lovely healthy rugosa rose. The only thing I would do if it were mine is dig up the weeds under it, and replace them with mulch. It is TRUE that rugosas HATE to be sprayed with anything, and it is not necessary. If you leave those finished blooms, they will set lovely large hips which will also be beautiful.
Jackie
People are entitled to their opinions, but I've used just about every kind of organic matter for a mulch and they all work fine. Bark chips, shredded bark, wood chips, fallen leaves, pine needles, green yard waste (no herbicide), half-made compost or leaf mold. Also I don't worry about the mulch touching the canes.
About the only problem I'm aware of is bark chips (and wood chips to a lesser extent) washing down a slope, and artillery fungus defacing adjacent cars or pale siding. I don't have the latter problem, but I understand it can happen with wood chips and shredded hardwood bark.
Just use whatever is cheap, convenient, and local, and don't fret about it. Any kind of organic mulch is good.
I know you are concerned, but 90 degrees is nothing for a rose. Roses have been around for a long time and in all sorts of growing conditions.
I grow roses and it is routinely over 105 degrees (for at least three--four months) in the summer and occasionally gets to 115--116 degrees. Further, I have watering restrictions. I can only water twice a week and only during certain times of the day.
I use a layer of compost (about 2--3 inches) around each rose and then 2--3 inches of bark mulch. They are on their own roots so I don't have to worry about a graft.
If your roses show no signs of stress, I would leave them alone. They will be fine. It sounds like you are taking good care of them.
I only have a few, but my favorite is definitely Paul Bocuse. He's fuller than an HT but more upright than most of my Austins. He does get a bit of BS, but our pressure is really high. The scent is very nice, but not one of my most fragrant roses. I really like the bloom form and colors. I don't have any pics of mine, but do a Google search and you'll see all the variations in colors he has! I like the pastel washes, so he's not a bright rose or anything, but I love those lovely apricots :)
Then I also have Pierre Gagnaire, who is just lovely for an up-close single. Farther away, you don't notice the very subtle colors going on. No fragrance for me, but completely healthy.
And I have Juliette Greco, but she doesn't grow anything like I expected. I use her as a once-blooming rambler climbing over an arbor now, after expecting a 5-6-foot shrub and having her in a different spot :) Her blooms are very pretty small yellow globes that then open wide and fade to white. I probably have her in too much shade now (so no rebloom?), but she is such a tall rambly thing that I can't try her in more sun in my garden. I do love her where I have her; she's vigorous in situations where roses don't like to grow (she'd scare me a bit in better conditions ;) ). I wonder if mine sported or something, but she's 110% a climber for me!
Gorgeous photos Beth, as always. Paul - that's incredibly exciting news about more Delbard roses at my favorite bare root vendor, Palatine! Ever since you and Ashdown stopped selling roses, I've been sheepish about recommending the Edgar Degas rose you sold me years ago. Fortunately Brightstar can get this rose, and hopefully Palatine will stock it along with the 80 new cultivars. I'll be thrilled if Soutine and Rose de Sisterciens make the cut, since they've been on my unobtainable list ever since Beth's pictures showed them off. Not to mention Camille Pisarro and Paul Cezanne and Claude Monet - I'm hoping for a resurrection of the painter's series here in the region.
Brightstar, I think all the painter series are pretty compatible, though you might want to break it up a bit in a row of 5 with a harmonious solid color midway, to make the stripes stand out. Regardless, I think that Edgar Degas and Henri Matisse as well as Guy Savoy are quite compatible, and Beth says her Matisse branches out nicely too. Grimaldi and Alfred Sisely also would go nicely together, and since both Pisarro and Monet have some yellow tones in some weather, that'd blend well too. I think all the painter series is relatively shrubby rather than upright like Pink and Red Intuition (gorgeous roses all), though if Pisarro stays small it might not suit in a row of the others unless it's at the end. Don't be too put off by the nursery photo colors - in different climates or conditions or light roses can alter colors, and the painter series can be nicely mutable in different situations.
Have fun and we'd love to see the results!
Cynthia
REALLY hoping it was damage from all the spraying the county did last year. They sprayed the edge of my yard by the road and killed several hundred dollars worth of plants. My white lady banks is right near the road....keep your fingers crossed. None of my KO's have it.
My discussions of the viruses that are known to infect roses can be found at:
Actually, the Canadian Explorer series roses I have, John Cabot, William Baffin and Henry Kelsey are all descendants of Rosa Hybrid Kordesii which in turn is a descendant of Rosa Rugosa. They all burned when I sprayed them with sulphur earlier this year when none of my other roses were burned. They had no disease when I sprayed, I just wanted to spray as a preventative measure. I haven't sprayed them since then
As for Roseraie de L'Hay she's alive but looks like he**. A couple canes have green leaves. Her main problem is a leaf pile used for the garden is right behind her and it's keeping the soil far to damp. It is also the favorite spot for the green july beetle which lays its giant grubs in there. This fall I'm going to try to dig out her baby and place is a drier spot. Don't know about digging mom thou. Are rugosa fussing about moving once established? She's been there for 12 years.
Way way more water than I use on my in ground or potted roses here in San Bernardino 9B. I'd slow your watering down to once every other day or less. I assume your emmitters are in the 1/2 to 2 gallon range. As a comparison, my potted hybrid teas get a couple gallons of water weekly in 30 gallon pots, and are in direct sunlight. The soil stays wet/moist easily for that amount of time and have a layer of bark mulch on top. My in ground hybrid teas are watered on drippers hooked into the lawns sprinkler system. They get 10 minutes every other day with 2 adjustable type emitters. probably 3-4 gallon per hour types. They just don't use a lot of water.
I also see that your graft union has been buried. I'm not sure how important it is but for my area, planting so the graft union is an inch or so above soil level was recommended.
Mine does the same too and not only did I just leave that cane alone that started it last year, now it is fully about a quarter of that bush and looks interesting... I like it!
I have Appleblossom Flower Carpet and it is also a sport of the original Flower Carpet rose. It occasionally has a cane or two that reverts back. I like the combination as well so I just leave them.