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I only have a few, but my favorite is definitely Paul Bocuse. He's fuller than an HT but more upright than most of my Austins. He does get a bit of BS, but our pressure is really high. The scent is very nice, but not one of my most fragrant roses. I really like the bloom form and colors. I don't have any pics of mine, but do a Google search and you'll see all the variations in colors he has! I like the pastel washes, so he's not a bright rose or anything, but I love those lovely apricots :)
Then I also have Pierre Gagnaire, who is just lovely for an up-close single. Farther away, you don't notice the very subtle colors going on. No fragrance for me, but completely healthy.
And I have Juliette Greco, but she doesn't grow anything like I expected. I use her as a once-blooming rambler climbing over an arbor now, after expecting a 5-6-foot shrub and having her in a different spot :) Her blooms are very pretty small yellow globes that then open wide and fade to white. I probably have her in too much shade now (so no rebloom?), but she is such a tall rambly thing that I can't try her in more sun in my garden. I do love her where I have her; she's vigorous in situations where roses don't like to grow (she'd scare me a bit in better conditions ;) ). I wonder if mine sported or something, but she's 110% a climber for me!
Gorgeous photos Beth, as always. Paul - that's incredibly exciting news about more Delbard roses at my favorite bare root vendor, Palatine! Ever since you and Ashdown stopped selling roses, I've been sheepish about recommending the Edgar Degas rose you sold me years ago. Fortunately Brightstar can get this rose, and hopefully Palatine will stock it along with the 80 new cultivars. I'll be thrilled if Soutine and Rose de Sisterciens make the cut, since they've been on my unobtainable list ever since Beth's pictures showed them off. Not to mention Camille Pisarro and Paul Cezanne and Claude Monet - I'm hoping for a resurrection of the painter's series here in the region.
Brightstar, I think all the painter series are pretty compatible, though you might want to break it up a bit in a row of 5 with a harmonious solid color midway, to make the stripes stand out. Regardless, I think that Edgar Degas and Henri Matisse as well as Guy Savoy are quite compatible, and Beth says her Matisse branches out nicely too. Grimaldi and Alfred Sisely also would go nicely together, and since both Pisarro and Monet have some yellow tones in some weather, that'd blend well too. I think all the painter series is relatively shrubby rather than upright like Pink and Red Intuition (gorgeous roses all), though if Pisarro stays small it might not suit in a row of the others unless it's at the end. Don't be too put off by the nursery photo colors - in different climates or conditions or light roses can alter colors, and the painter series can be nicely mutable in different situations.
Have fun and we'd love to see the results!
Cynthia
REALLY hoping it was damage from all the spraying the county did last year. They sprayed the edge of my yard by the road and killed several hundred dollars worth of plants. My white lady banks is right near the road....keep your fingers crossed. None of my KO's have it.
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Actually, the Canadian Explorer series roses I have, John Cabot, William Baffin and Henry Kelsey are all descendants of Rosa Hybrid Kordesii which in turn is a descendant of Rosa Rugosa. They all burned when I sprayed them with sulphur earlier this year when none of my other roses were burned. They had no disease when I sprayed, I just wanted to spray as a preventative measure. I haven't sprayed them since then
As for Roseraie de L'Hay she's alive but looks like he**. A couple canes have green leaves. Her main problem is a leaf pile used for the garden is right behind her and it's keeping the soil far to damp. It is also the favorite spot for the green july beetle which lays its giant grubs in there. This fall I'm going to try to dig out her baby and place is a drier spot. Don't know about digging mom thou. Are rugosa fussing about moving once established? She's been there for 12 years.
Way way more water than I use on my in ground or potted roses here in San Bernardino 9B. I'd slow your watering down to once every other day or less. I assume your emmitters are in the 1/2 to 2 gallon range. As a comparison, my potted hybrid teas get a couple gallons of water weekly in 30 gallon pots, and are in direct sunlight. The soil stays wet/moist easily for that amount of time and have a layer of bark mulch on top. My in ground hybrid teas are watered on drippers hooked into the lawns sprinkler system. They get 10 minutes every other day with 2 adjustable type emitters. probably 3-4 gallon per hour types. They just don't use a lot of water.
I also see that your graft union has been buried. I'm not sure how important it is but for my area, planting so the graft union is an inch or so above soil level was recommended.
Tamora,which is almost identical to Evelyn as far as I can tell, blooms and blooms, facing west against a light-colored stucco wall, despite temps in the 90s.
Alnwick Rose blooms freely, but the flowers shatter almost immediately in hot weather.
In descending order of heat tolerance:
Queen of Sweden
Darcey Bussell
Carding Mill
Molineux
Munstead Wood
Update, 1 year later, temps in the upper 90's to 100's.
Winchester Cathedral: kept growing and blooming when the heat began, but then slowed down and with much smaller flowers. Weird fragrance.
Bolero: Second year. Grows and blooms throughout the heat, almost the same as in the cooler weather. Nice fragrance. Flowers are with rare exception damaged and distorted by thrips. Looks awful most of the time.
William Shakespeare 2000: third year. Keeps putting out flowers if well irrigated, but flowers more pale and fry by day 2. Probably would be better if grown very wet, but not something I want to do here in the desert.
Falstaff: puts out a few flowers and growth slows but does not stop in the heat. Flowers are smaller, but do not fade, and they do keep their petal count. No fragrance.
Abraham Darby: Second year. Flowers withered immediately when touched by the high altitude sun here in 80 degrees, even with copious rain. Does not want to grow. May need more water. Plant is removed.
Glamis Castle: New this year. After a troubling start (did not like being overwintered in the garage, was then planted out), flowers came in the heat of summer, lasted a few days without damage. Fragrance of mothballs.
Radio Times: Produced a lot of flowers in its first flush that did not show damage in the heat, but as the heat wore on, no signs of growth on this second year plant. Great fragrance, color and form. Wish it would grow.
Alnwick Rose: Second year. Continues to grow and put out flowers in the heat, but they don't last more than a day before getting crispy. No fading in that one day. Absolutely wonderful fragrance.
Evelyn: just planted a month ago. Put out one flower in 90's heat, no heat damage.
Bishop's Castle: New this year, grew slowly in the unusually cool spring, growth sped up in the heat. Keeps growing and putting out buds in temps over 100. Flowers bleach with temps greater than 100, and don't last as long but still a few days. Mild fragrance. So far the most vigorous in the heat. This is the best Austin in the heat in my garden this year.
Incidentally: Madame Isaac Pereire and Marie Pavie, seem to be doing just fine in the heat, with irrigation.
Thanks all, for your input!
I'll admit I'm a sucker for the hype a lot of times. I see a new rose and fall head over heels for it and have to have it. Over the years most of them have been disappointments. There are a few, however, that do stand out as actually living up to their press. Julia Child is wonderful! I recommend her all the time to people looking for a lot of bloom without a lot of care. Next is Love Song. It's incredible when it's in full bloom. Third, and I only got it this spring so it's still early days, but Neil Diamond has been fabulous so far. I've never seen an HT which such consistent bloom on it and the leaves have been spotless so far! I'm hoping it will continue to impress me.
Squirrels ate a lot of my tulip bulbs in the past. I used to have 1000 red tulips, now down to about 300. This past winter in the sub zero weather, I saw some little footprints on the snow under a car, I thought it was mice, so I put out One Bite bar under the car, a few days later I saw a dead squirrel in a rose garden, since then I haven't seen any squirrels in my yard. I might plant more bulbs this fall if I see some good sales since squirrels are gone.
People are entitled to their opinions, but I've used just about every kind of organic matter for a mulch and they all work fine. Bark chips, shredded bark, wood chips, fallen leaves, pine needles, green yard waste (no herbicide), half-made compost or leaf mold. Also I don't worry about the mulch touching the canes.
About the only problem I'm aware of is bark chips (and wood chips to a lesser extent) washing down a slope, and artillery fungus defacing adjacent cars or pale siding. I don't have the latter problem, but I understand it can happen with wood chips and shredded hardwood bark.
Just use whatever is cheap, convenient, and local, and don't fret about it. Any kind of organic mulch is good.
I know you are concerned, but 90 degrees is nothing for a rose. Roses have been around for a long time and in all sorts of growing conditions.
I grow roses and it is routinely over 105 degrees (for at least three--four months) in the summer and occasionally gets to 115--116 degrees. Further, I have watering restrictions. I can only water twice a week and only during certain times of the day.
I use a layer of compost (about 2--3 inches) around each rose and then 2--3 inches of bark mulch. They are on their own roots so I don't have to worry about a graft.
If your roses show no signs of stress, I would leave them alone. They will be fine. It sounds like you are taking good care of them.