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Actually, the Canadian Explorer series roses I have, John Cabot, William Baffin and Henry Kelsey are all descendants of Rosa Hybrid Kordesii which in turn is a descendant of Rosa Rugosa. They all burned when I sprayed them with sulphur earlier this year when none of my other roses were burned. They had no disease when I sprayed, I just wanted to spray as a preventative measure. I haven't sprayed them since then
As for Roseraie de L'Hay she's alive but looks like he**. A couple canes have green leaves. Her main problem is a leaf pile used for the garden is right behind her and it's keeping the soil far to damp. It is also the favorite spot for the green july beetle which lays its giant grubs in there. This fall I'm going to try to dig out her baby and place is a drier spot. Don't know about digging mom thou. Are rugosa fussing about moving once established? She's been there for 12 years.
Way way more water than I use on my in ground or potted roses here in San Bernardino 9B. I'd slow your watering down to once every other day or less. I assume your emmitters are in the 1/2 to 2 gallon range. As a comparison, my potted hybrid teas get a couple gallons of water weekly in 30 gallon pots, and are in direct sunlight. The soil stays wet/moist easily for that amount of time and have a layer of bark mulch on top. My in ground hybrid teas are watered on drippers hooked into the lawns sprinkler system. They get 10 minutes every other day with 2 adjustable type emitters. probably 3-4 gallon per hour types. They just don't use a lot of water.
I also see that your graft union has been buried. I'm not sure how important it is but for my area, planting so the graft union is an inch or so above soil level was recommended.
Tamora,which is almost identical to Evelyn as far as I can tell, blooms and blooms, facing west against a light-colored stucco wall, despite temps in the 90s.
Alnwick Rose blooms freely, but the flowers shatter almost immediately in hot weather.
In descending order of heat tolerance:
Queen of Sweden
Darcey Bussell
Carding Mill
Molineux
Munstead Wood
Update, 1 year later, temps in the upper 90's to 100's.
Winchester Cathedral: kept growing and blooming when the heat began, but then slowed down and with much smaller flowers. Weird fragrance.
Bolero: Second year. Grows and blooms throughout the heat, almost the same as in the cooler weather. Nice fragrance. Flowers are with rare exception damaged and distorted by thrips. Looks awful most of the time.
William Shakespeare 2000: third year. Keeps putting out flowers if well irrigated, but flowers more pale and fry by day 2. Probably would be better if grown very wet, but not something I want to do here in the desert.
Falstaff: puts out a few flowers and growth slows but does not stop in the heat. Flowers are smaller, but do not fade, and they do keep their petal count. No fragrance.
Abraham Darby: Second year. Flowers withered immediately when touched by the high altitude sun here in 80 degrees, even with copious rain. Does not want to grow. May need more water. Plant is removed.
Glamis Castle: New this year. After a troubling start (did not like being overwintered in the garage, was then planted out), flowers came in the heat of summer, lasted a few days without damage. Fragrance of mothballs.
Radio Times: Produced a lot of flowers in its first flush that did not show damage in the heat, but as the heat wore on, no signs of growth on this second year plant. Great fragrance, color and form. Wish it would grow.
Alnwick Rose: Second year. Continues to grow and put out flowers in the heat, but they don't last more than a day before getting crispy. No fading in that one day. Absolutely wonderful fragrance.
Evelyn: just planted a month ago. Put out one flower in 90's heat, no heat damage.
Bishop's Castle: New this year, grew slowly in the unusually cool spring, growth sped up in the heat. Keeps growing and putting out buds in temps over 100. Flowers bleach with temps greater than 100, and don't last as long but still a few days. Mild fragrance. So far the most vigorous in the heat. This is the best Austin in the heat in my garden this year.
Incidentally: Madame Isaac Pereire and Marie Pavie, seem to be doing just fine in the heat, with irrigation.
Thanks all, for your input!
I'll admit I'm a sucker for the hype a lot of times. I see a new rose and fall head over heels for it and have to have it. Over the years most of them have been disappointments. There are a few, however, that do stand out as actually living up to their press. Julia Child is wonderful! I recommend her all the time to people looking for a lot of bloom without a lot of care. Next is Love Song. It's incredible when it's in full bloom. Third, and I only got it this spring so it's still early days, but Neil Diamond has been fabulous so far. I've never seen an HT which such consistent bloom on it and the leaves have been spotless so far! I'm hoping it will continue to impress me.
Squirrels ate a lot of my tulip bulbs in the past. I used to have 1000 red tulips, now down to about 300. This past winter in the sub zero weather, I saw some little footprints on the snow under a car, I thought it was mice, so I put out One Bite bar under the car, a few days later I saw a dead squirrel in a rose garden, since then I haven't seen any squirrels in my yard. I might plant more bulbs this fall if I see some good sales since squirrels are gone.
Ouch....yup, you DO have trumpet vine, it just wasn't in the first pix you posted, lol. It's a menace, indeed. It should NEVER be planted on purpose in the ground. A large pot might be ok, but only if it sat OFF the ground, lol. Even then, it would probably get out of its cage and rampage.
Since the mother plant isn't on your property, I don't know how you can actually get rid of it. You might approach the neighbor and see if they would be amenable to doing the deed on their side of the fence, sacrificing a bit for the good of humanity (yeah....riiiiiight). Other than that, you might try spraying any sprouts that are coming up away from the actual fence. You might discourage it, and trust me, you won't be killing the neighbor's plant. What's on the fence you'll just have to keep cutting back. Sigh...the stuff IS pretty, but it's a wild wildling, and belongs in the wild, not in a civilized garden.
The Virginia creeper is a lot more easily discouraged by pulling, which is the most environmentally friendly method, but unfortunately the most labor intensive. You'll just have.to.stay.after.it. Since you don't seem to be allergic, just make it a daily chore to check for new sprouts, and learn to recognize seedlings.
What I meant about a "true brush killer" was just to steer you away from the 2-4D. The 2-4D lingers in the soil for up to a year and can prohibit growth of anything else you plant there. Roundup isn't nearly as soil toxic, but has to be sprayed on the leaves to work well, and you might kill the roses ( I know you wouldn't mind that, but myself, I can't stand the thought of killing a healthy rose, lol). Using full strength brush killer JUST on major cuts will limit the amount of poison you're slinging around the environment.
John
John - can you name for me a "true brush killer"? Herbicides are really not something I've ever felt the need to deal with. In this case, I don't care if it lingers in the soil for a year - as long as it kills the trumpet vine. Roses can be replanted - and these honestly should be, they are far to close together and in any other climate they'd have succumbed to disease and fungus long ago. ONE rose there with some appropriate companions would be about right - not 4, and especially not when at least 3 of them are naturally huge to start with.
I ended up buying an Eden climbing rose from a local nursery. It had around 6-7 unopened blooms and two open blooms, that had cream/pink combo. Such a beautiful rose. It's definitely a favorite. I might dig up the cream one that was supposed to be Eden and pot it up for now.
Beautiful garden and roses, Ninkasi, and thanks for allowing us to share it. So much nicer than just a nursery full of rows of pots, as we're used to here. And how nice to see the color green, which makes the rose colors look so good against that background.
Thank you mustbnuts & nanadoll! Yesterday was filled with beer and fireworks. How nuts we go usually depends on the area and crowd...
I agree with John Cabot on the list, there's one in town here that had zero die back this year, it's over a meter tall and is now covered in blooms.
LOL - cecily - that's exactly what my husband said to me.... this is the first time I've had roses.... I'm quite a brown thumb - I currently have 2 trees that are dying a slow painful death (not my doing) and I really don't want to lose these roses!! But the damage is actually only a week or two old at the most - they weren't damaged when we moved in which was in early June.
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Thank you