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Summer Wine is where the scent, tremendous foliage, vigor and excellent health came from in Eyes for You and Blue for You. Rhapsody in Blue is also descended from it as is Bull's Eye, but they didn't inherit the amazing health the first two did. Kim

Wow, these are beautiful! I like the radiant glow in the centers of some of these. Here's a picture of my seedling, Paso Doble, which had almost black stripes. It was a seedling of 4th of July. Unfortunately the plant was not vigorous and it is no more.



I have a picture of them side by side also. I am speculating that what I have is not Pink Gruss an Achen because the pink one often has narrower petals towards the centers , can have a button eye , and has more petals ( I counted them) .
I bought my PGaA as Irene Watts. From what I hear no roses in the US sold as Irene Watts are really Irene Watts.
I am not certain about that. My " Irene" plant also seems to have more tea like growth than Gruss. It's more open and airy. To do a better photo study I need more fully opened Gruss blooms.



Hi Elizabeth, I'm in the northern VA/ Washington DC area. The foliage on my roses hangs on all winter. When new growth begins in spring, the old ratty stuff finally comes off (and, yes, it looks pretty darned ugly by then). Sometimes I get sick of looking at it and strip it by hand, most years I just look the other way. If you want to use a dormant spray, don't worry about the old foliage dropping, pick a weekend in January or February when the weather is relatively pleasant to work outside and go for it.

I noticed Peace, Pink Peace, and Chicago Peace amongst the non- patented varieties being sold, Beth. I'm sure you'll be able to find one this year. I don't know who supplies the HDs near you, but the Chicago Peace that Coiner Nursery sells seems to be the real deal and I've seen plants from them at HDs near me in the past.
Jay


I grew Tiffany for many years in zone 7b Virginia. The blooms looked just like those in Sara-Ann's first picture and never smelled to me like apples. The fragrance was INTENSE. The dominant scent is Damask but with fruity and tea rose elements as well. It's offspring BELINDA'S DREAM expresses the fruity scent much more clearly, but smells like raspberries and not apples. However, all roses belong to the same family as apple and pear trees. Your nose could be sensitized to this particular scent, in which case most roses are going to have some apple-like tones in their fragrance profile.

No, I definitely ONLY smell apple with this one rose - whatever it is. :)
I got rid of Frederic Mistral because I smelled grass whenever I sniffed the blooms. Grass???
Comte de Champagne smelled like dog poop to me. That one's gone. LOL
I love, love, love damask scent and I also love, love fruity smells.
I must try to find Belinda's Dream because raspberry is my favorite scent by far. Makes me swoon. :)
I'm soooo looking forward to getting Tiffany!!!
Thanks!
Carol

I gave away Red Cross (Love's Promise), Camille Pissarro and Souvenir de la Malmaison because I couldn't smell any scent. I kept Hilde, hoping it would come good. It hasn't. And it's not just my nose at issue. Nobody got any scent from any of these. Red Cross now lives at a friend's place where it must be happier because it's finally scented - to everyone's nose. I wonder whether this is because the nights are colder where my friend lives.
The roses I have that are noticeably scented here would probably be overpowering there, but I'm not parting with them. They are: Angel Face, Fire Fighter, Ebb Tide, Old Fragrance, Jude the Obscure, Pope JPII and Nahema.

Quite an interesting discussion.
So what about roses that you buy from a nursery potted which are very fragrant, stay fragrant for the rest of the season and then come back the next year with no fragrance?
Last year I planted the following roses and they were all fragrant when I purchased them and put out fragrant blooms in my garden as well:
Oh My!
Arctic Flame
Then this year, I got the same flowers but zero fragrance regardless of what time of the day I sniff.
Any theories on what happened there?

Glad to hear yours is doing well, I ordered one as well, mainly wanted to get me a Cardinal Richelu and with shipping it made sense to get 2 roses.
Neither of the two have done anything amazing yet, but thats likely in part due to being planted on the Texas coast in June....
Both are growing, had to transplant richelu due to not getting enough sun.

The Rose, Flowers and Veggies Gardener's group--lots of posts from all over the world
Mad Englishman and Roses (specializes in DA roses)
Alexandra Farms--Fresh Cut Garden Roses
David Austin Roses
Tantau Roses
If you are into plumarias at all there is a Plumaria Addicts Group too. Lots of posts.
This post was edited by mustbnuts on Sun, Dec 14, 14 at 0:07

I've uploaded my first batch of photos taken for this project, but I do need to indicate size and scale as suggested in this discussion thread. I'll probably do a couple each time and tweak as I go along.
At the very least, this will help me establish my own database and keep my mind/time occupied for at least 6 months :)
Today, I'll be uploading information about:
1) About Face (Orange with Reverse)
2) Wild Blue Yonder (Fushia with yellow center)
3) Summer Love (Classic Yellow)

Here is a link that might be useful: About Face Pictures
This post was edited by msdorkgirl on Sat, Dec 13, 14 at 12:08

Perfect! Thank you! So often we forget the plant itself has to also be attractive. Though many flower over a very long period, there are times when they aren't "colorful". And, there are roses which are just as pleasing as green plants as they are scented, color. Thank you! Kim

Snow is all the roses should need. It also has the great advantage that when a thaw comes, it automatically removes itself, so wet, cold stuff isn't around the roses to encourage fungal problems.
If you live in an area where temperatures below 20 without snow are practically unknown (like where I live) fancy cages are a lot more trouble than they are worth.

Michael and Mad are both right, snow is the best insulator there is for a rose. However, if you want to protect the existing canes from wind damage you can still put the cages with the covers over them without disturbing the snow cover. The snow will protect the graft at the bottom and the cage will protect the upper canes. It's not fool proof but it can help.








The suggestion was made that the virus may be rose yellow vein virus.
The only published picture that I am aware of is at:
http://apsjournals.apsnet.org/doi/suppl/10.1094/PDIS-10-12-0981-PDN
Although the caption says: "âÂÂLedaâ rose infected with Rose yellow vein virus.", the article states: "Symptoms observed in the âÂÂLedaâ sample infected with PNRSV and RYVV (vein yellowing and chlorotic mottle in the apex of leaves) were not typical of PNRSV, so they may be caused by RYVV."
http://apsjournals.apsnet.org/doi/abs/10.1094/PDIS-10-12-0981-PDN
I am aware of three pictures of RYVV infected leaves of three other roses. However, the source has not yet been published, and I have not received permission to show them. Do they look like this sample? Well, yes, no, and/or maybe. I do not mean one looks like it, one does not and one maybe looks like it. I mean one person may say they look similar, another person looking at the same pictures may say they are different, and a third person may say maybe - not positive.
Right now an answer as to whether the virus is visible under both warm and cool weather conditions (I feel) would be useful.
Here is a link that might be useful: link to picture
This post was edited by henry_kuska on Fri, Dec 19, 14 at 13:07
maplerbirth--no problem. I have days when I'm "crankier" that others also. : )
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Kate