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comtessedelacouche (10b S.Australia: hotdryMedclimate)

Well, now I've done it too - I just looked back and saw the bit about 'Snow Maiden' being the hedge - so not box, obviously! (I'll have to look that one up - I presume it's a little white rose...)

Sorry, Sophia, no wonder you're confused ...I fear it is we, though, who are the confused...

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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

Sophia, maybe you can arrange your roses like a rainbow for your daughter?

I am in Aust too so I am familiar with Std roses. Even though they are all grafted onto a 90cm stump the actual roses that grow on top will be very different sizes depending on the variety. So if colour arrangement is not an issue for you it may look neater if you arrange them by bush size and vigor of the varieties.

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seil zone 6b MI

HMF lists Angel Gardens, Rogue Valley Roses, Burlington Rose Nursery and S&W Greenhouse as selling it. All of them are good suppliers.

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Dingo2001 - Z5 Chicagoland(5)

Patty they had knockouts and a bunch of the Easy Elegance roses. They had them inside still, so if you don't see them outside, go in and look! EE were like $17 I think. They had Music Box, Champagne wishes, Pinktopia, Superhero?, one with an elf name - sorry can't remember!, All the Rage , and maybe 1 or 2 more. I have Music Box now and really like it, and it did ok over the winter - died back pretty far but it's up and growing now. Seem to recall someone on here recommending Champagne Wishes, may go back for that one. Was at Menards, they have some of the same varieties potted and blooming as they had as bare roots. Looked healthy, $10? No Kordes that I've seen so far.

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hostafordays7a

Just managed to find one at my Lowes.... for $2.00!!!!!!! Granted it is not in the best shape but I couldn't believe it. Had to try and rescue her.

My question: one of the canes has a black streak in it. Should the whole thing be pruned off? The whole cane isn't dead so I didn't know what I should do.

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cecily(7 VA)

That's a beautiful rose. Scent is subjective, depending on both the weather and your particular nose. Your rose looks very happy, good job.

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pinkkpearls

SoFL Rose z10 - bigger than they are? wow! can't wait for that!

cecily - I do have a rose that is really strong, that my husband swears doesn't smell, so i get that! This was the 1st rose I've ever planted, so I am always weary and nervous over it...but mostly was worried if I had the right rose!

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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

You might try over on the Antique Roses forum. I searched helpmefind.com, and couldn't find either a rose or hybridizer with that name. The Rose Hybridizers Association might be able to help.

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SoFL Rose z10

That's a great idea Michael. That's what I would do. That way if DJ dies back from cold, you're still covered. And if the new hardy climber is red, the two will blend nicely.

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altorama(5/6 MA)

I'd give them some extra water. And agree with Michael's idea.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

One advantage of disbudding is that open flowers attract extra JBs to your yard. I definitely recommend this if JBs are bad. You could identify a few roses that you like for cutting, remove the side buds, and let the lead buds develop, picking them as soon as the sepals split or drop, or discarding them if they are bitten.

If you disbud stems early, the plant will make slightly more vegetative growth for the season. I don't know about roots. But at least you don't have to watch your flowers get ravaged.

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vasue VA(7A Charlottesville)

Last year did just that to foil a high population of JB's for the first time in this garden. The beetles not harvested for chickens left abruptly when deprived of their favorite food, luckily without sampling other plants. Figured there was no point advertising "Eat at Joe's" with all the rose blooms & decided to shut down this diner. If I wasn't going to benefit from rose blossoms, neither were they! Let the roses bloom again after departure without finding more JB's. Figured the hatchlings in this garden had been trapped or moved on to greener pastures. This year, didn't deadhead after the first flush as a precaution, but they came to a new rose whose blooms I wanted to see & smell which flowered after the rest. Aloha '49, as usual, budded quickly despite forming hips & I've left the buds & flowers as the only lure at the moment in order to trap the JB's emerging here. Easier to concentrate on one rose than many scattered throughout the garden. Must say, hardly any this year (so far anyway) compared to last, so thinking this was worthwhile.

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ratdogheads(5b NH)

Often David Austin’s catalogue photos and marketing descriptions stray from reality. They call LD Braithwaite a bright crimson. I agree with the bright part, but I've always thought crimson was a stretch. When think of crimson I think of Munstead Wood which incidentally is sometimes pink for me. LD Braithwaite on the other hand, anytime I have seen it, in my own garden and in different climates and conditions is a distinctly recognizable color that doesn't vary much under differing conditions.

My opinion at first was that Dave's photos didn't look like LDB, but to my surprise the color looks rather different now that I see it on a different monitor. I don't see so much blue now. Still, it doesn't have that brightness and the bloom form doesn't seem familiar, so I do have to wonder if it was mislabeled. I rec'd 4 mislabeled roses from DA this year (not bashing DA, they admit their mistakes and make them right when they happen).

Of course that’s only my opinion. I wanted to add the discussion since I find the variety of experience and opinions of this forum’s users to immensely helpful whenever I’m in need of a rose ID.

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davez7anv

i don't know guys-david austin has been offering this rose for 30 yrs. with the same pics and descriptions. the pics might be off although not by much but certainly we have to accept his descriptions-unless of course you feel you know more about his roses than he does

the bloom form on my pic almost perfectly matches the da catalog pic so i'm going to have to go with the idea that you must grow something that is not ld.

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Your welcome

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countrygirl_sc, Upstate SC(7a)

Would either of you mind sending me cuttings? I would happily pay postage as I miss this rose very much. Michael, where in NC mts to you live?

I thought I attached this photo yesterday.

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jerijen(Zone 10)

Country girl, I really can't. I have one teeny new plant -- and it's going to someone else. It won't be here long enough to mature enough to give cuttings.

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jasminerose4u, California 9b

I see Black Magic on Regan's plant list, but in their garden center only in Fremont, CA.

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bethnorcal9

I'll be anxious to see what's "new."

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mmjau zone 6

Thanks a lot! I will give it some time. It's not own root. I'm unsure what the nursery will say when I contact them. I guess this is quite normal and I can't really return it I guess, so what can they do?

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zack_lau z6 CT

Leaf shape and the color of mature leaves can be useful for identification. The heat of the summer may also affect blooms--there are a few plants that do better when its hot--St. Patrick does wonderfully in hot weather. For others, the color can be off and you may wind up with far fewer petals than normal.

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seil zone 6b MI

Thank you all so much for the wealth of information! I'm going to print this up and send it to here with some suggestions for some online places too.

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enchantedrosez6a

Hi Diane, I'd love to take the credit but the pics aren't mine although I DO have Music Box and Sweet Fragrance. Music Box has flowered but the flowers were kind of small. I'm sure she'll improve with age. No flowers yet on SW but High Voltage has a bud and Champagne Wishes has flowered a coupole of times. They are growing well and look very healthy so I'm hoping that these will perform as well as Centennial Rose, which is gorgeous. I bought the only one the nursery ahd last year and was hoping he'd get some this yera but he didn't. Otherwise I would have boughta second one. Even though it has very little scent its vigor, disease resistance and practically non-stop flowering makes it a keeper.
Sharon

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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

If you are just trying to make another (ownroot) rose from the 1st grafted rose, you can also pull down a cane, depending on the growth habit, and start the rooting process that way. Put a rock or something to keep part of the cane under dirt, and eventually it will root and you can cut that new plant off from your original plant.

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SoFL Rose z10

Meredith has some good advice. It might be easier to use what they call the "layering" method to root a cane and then cut it off. You'll have a much better success rate because the mother plant will still be feeding the cane while the section that's under the soil will put out roots. I recommend what Meredith says.

Jerri has some great advice too, but you'd have to dig up the rose or build a raised area around it in order to get it deeper into the ground once its planted. If the rose is newly planted and sill easy to move (has not yet set out delicate feeder roots, within a week) you can do that. If not, try rooting it using the layering method above.

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countrygirl_sc, Upstate SC(7a)

My cuttings usually lose their leaves. Sounds like you had good success on rooting them. Do not feed them until they have started putting on "grown up" leaves. I just uncover mine a little more every couple of days until they are more than half uncovered. You can leave them in the cups until the cups are full of roots. then I pot them in larger pots. I am afraid to put them straight in the ground with it so hot. I would keep them in the same place where you have them now.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Yellow & dropping leaves--probably OK. If they are rooted and in the shade, I would remove the plastic.

Yellow stems--imminent death.

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