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I'd agree with Kentucky Rose's order for those roses, and another late one for me is Papa Meilland. I'd put Red Masterpiece, Olympiad, Legends, and In The Mood among the earlier bloomers, but my Firefighter hasn't bloomed yet this season (might be because it's only a two-year-old bush).
Cynthia
I have a new Dark Desire ordered from Palatine this spring. Boy is it healthy and growing like mad even after the deer used it for a late night snack. So can't say anything yet except it's supposed to be disease resistant and very fragrant. Here's what I've got so far:
I looked at the photos offered on HMF and this one is definitely different than Intriguing. I will try to keep better track.
I do have some experience with Winchester Cathedral sporting back to Mary. Several years ago it was just one branch each year; now it is half-and-half, but you give a good reminder on how to keep track.
Trying again with less sideways photo... The double graft I purchased from Lowe's clearance rack ended up being just the Walking on Sunshine, Perhaps they killed the other half or maybe it was mislabeled. Either way it's a very vigorous, healthy & happy plant that is constantly covered in blooms and buds. Yesterday I scored a "Dear Delores" hydrangea for $2.85. Love the clearance racks.
chris2486, it has very slight fragrance and it seems to me like climber, because of branches structure.. I am steel puzzled)
danuv, I bought my Walking on Sunshine from Lowes clearance last year, labeled like Brandy
and Im very happy with these bushes - they are blooming machines in my garden
This one really caught my eye, too. Laguna is certainly beautiful, but too much on the lavender/lilac side of pink to work well here. Sweet Laguna is described on the Daniel Schmitz site as a combination of medium & pale pink. and from various photos looks as if it has a deeper center surrounded by paler petals. Can't tell if it's warm or cool, but best guess is a warm center with a cool border.
Kordes calls it "a color variation of the known and estimated Keltterrose Laguna. As the mother variety is Sweet Laguna very easy to care for and their nostalgic flowers exude a pleasant fragrance." Perhaps an imprecise translation, but does appear to be a sport of Laguna. Especially intriguing is FilRoses estimation of longer bloomtime & stronger perfume. http://tinyurl.com/ol26hxo
I like Laguna for it's vigour, excellent health, and the fact that it is capable of covering itself in flowers. This last virtue ranks VERY high for me. Actually, for me, Laguna's only semi-fault is it's colour,for on my soil it's not at all lavender/lilac,;(alas! because I'm crazy for that type of cool colour...)it is that very dark pink that is closer to red to my eye. I guess if Sweet Laguna has the virtues of Laguna, it'd be worth a try, even if the colour turns out to be warmer than my ideal. Fact is, I feel a bit "burned" over a rose called Mariella Calderoni, bred by Giulio Pantoli. This is described on HMF (and on the on-line catalogue of the nursery from which I purchased it) as "lilac", or "lilac-pink". Foolishly, I got two. The plants arrived; excellent, huge, and healthy,but the tag clearly described the colour as "coral pink"! Alas, the tag proved right: the flowers are a decidedly warm pink tone, nothing near "lilac"! So now I have to move them, find spots for them in my garden where I want a touch of contrast or just a filler. So I must be more careful in the future!
I'd never heard of these, before, but I did some reading on them yesterday. A native bee that we haven't (yet) seen in SoCal ... apparently they have been moving north.
Strikingly colored, aren't they? I'd love to hear from some folks who are used to dealing with them. I figure, they might get here eventually, so I'd like to know more.
Roseseek~ "starve the beast" is right. Either that or no republicans grow roses or maybe none of THEIR roses ever become infected because we are lazy gardeners who deserve it! I will be contacting my congressman about voting against this hateful bill if it does make it out of committee. What an embarrassment our country is becoming with the ignoramuses in charge.
So far I haven't any news that RRD has hit Massachusetts but the thought is still terrifying. Most of my roses are still young. I would be devastated to lose them to this horrific disease. I have read that you are safe if you're not within five hundred feet of Multiflora rose but some have speculated that the mites may be transferred by other means besides wind, possibly carried by JB's, aphids and such. How sad that this hateful idiot's political posturing will not only put our beloved roses at risk but will risk decimating the struggling commercial rose industry which is finally seeming to be on a slow road to recovery from the economic collapse of 2008. Apparently the rose growers don't have a very powerful lobby!
Sharon
I was curious about the bill and found this. I get that there's a lot of waste on ag subsidies, but still. The money spend on RRD is peanuts compared to all the corn/ethanol crap.
Jun 26, 2015
SOS
Washington, D.C.—Today, Rep. Matt Salmon (AZ-05) announced the Seventh Shrink our Spending Initiative bill focused on highlighting and cutting wasteful, taxpayer-funded programs. Upon introduction of his latest bill to eliminate federal funding for the Rose Rosette Disease Grant, Salmon released the following statement:
“Though there is nothing wrong with funding research on agricultural diseases, I believe that the National Institute of Food and Agriculture (NIFA) must prioritize the research that will protect our agricultural security.
“This program is at best a government subsidy to the U.S. rose industry, which draws a healthy $400 million of the $2.81 billion wholesale shrub market. The industry had enough money to match the grant money awarded by the federal government; surely they could also afford to fully support their own mite research.”
Background: Rose Rosette Disease (RRD) is a mite borne viral disease that affects the U.S. landscape rose industry. In late 2014, the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s National Institute of Food and Agriculture (NIFA) awarded $4.6 million to “minimize the effect” of rose rosette disease on garden roses. NIFA’s current priority initiatives include: global food security and hunger, climate change, sustainable energy, childhood obesity, and food safety. Cutting this program would save roughly 4.6 million dollars.
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Kim describes it perfectly. You see it around here frequently, but usually in locations where paid landscapers stay on top of it.
I wouldn't do it because:
1. I am a lazy gardener, and I avoid all that work like the plague; and . . .
2. I really do prefer them looking wild.
As we age, the garden becomes less-disciplined with every passing year, so it's probably a good thing that I like "un-restrained" plants. :-)
Jeri
www.frenchtearose.com could supply export certificates but they would require the necessary import certificates from your agricultural department. Please check what type of roses do OK in your climate, many would fail.
I have Kim's original Lynnie and she is FABULOUS. Right now she is coated with bloom. I can see why Kim likes her behind his roses.
Quinceanera is doing wonderful and I just noticed I need to start tying up Annie Laurie McDowell because she is throwing canes trying to climb the arch already.
Lovely! Congratulations! Yes ma'am, Lynnie has great genes and she freely passes them on to her "babies". Give her a half-way decent partner and there is no telling what could result. Nearly every seedling using her pollen on Pretty Lady is a winner. Great foliage, vigor, good health and scent in abundance. I'm glad Annie appears to have some feet under her so she will start stretching for you. I can imagine what Quinceanera looks like. The flowers here in the cool, damp have been enormous and long lasting. I can't wait to bud it on a standard!
If they're going to tent the house, the chemical WILL be harmful to the rose. But it's not necessarily a disaster.
Do as Jackie describes. Cut it back at least to some degree. You might get a rope behind it, and pull the plant forward, AWAY from the house. Then, put a tarp over it -- I would use one of those blue plastic ones, I think.
Be sure that the tarp goes all the way to the ground, between the rose and the house, and weight it down with sandbags or large rocks. I think you'll have a good hope that the rose will be damaged only minimally.
Thank you for your replies. The termite tent man came out and said the rose would have to go inside the tent. He said it would almost certainly kill it. I think both of your suggestions are good - it is a tough plant. When we get to that point I think I will cut it way way back and wrap it. I see that there are bags they give you to put your food in - if you leave your food inside the house (why?) that are supposed to be safe. In any event we are waiting til fall - we have to leave the house open for 3 days and saturate the ground with water for three days before tenting. Its over 100 degrees here now and we are in a drought - so I cant water that much.
Thank you again - it was so nice of you to take the time to answer. You gave me some hope - which I really appreciate.
Sue
Have you thought about Elegant Lady (otherwise known as Diana, Princess of Wales)? I don't really know anything about it other than that it is truly a beautiful pink/ivory/touch of yellow hybrid tea. Here's a link to some pics: Elegant Lady .
Kate
I remain a firm member of the "Cynthia" fan club, but for entirely different reasons (ahem). Sadly, the rose Cynthia is one that simply will not survive our zone 5 winters even when pampered so my namesake will have to go appreciated in other yards like yours. The same goes for Cynthia Brooke, and I've tried both at least twice. Someone needs to breed a Morden rose and call it "Lovely Cynthia" or something of the sort (smile).
Glad she'd doing so well for you - I think Seil has the heart of what's going on with your clusters. After all, it's hard to complain about 4 Cynthia blooms rather than just one, eh?
Cynthia
Yes, indeed! Those clusters might be kinda funny looking, but they have the truly splendid Cynthia aroma. Last year, I made rosewater out of dried Cynthia petals. The last bit just came out of my refrigerator and still smells lovely. I use it as a facial toner and I imagine I smell like Cynthia all day! This year, I plan on using fresh petals to see if I can get a nearly clear rosewater to use on my linens. Cynthia forever! ; )