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BlueKYstream, your roses look so good! Plum Perfect bud has captured my eye. Keep us updated on the feedback about these 3 new plants. It sounds like all 3 are winners. I got my Poseidon from Palatine this year and I will be comparing it to Love Song (last year). The way Poseidon broke dormancy was most impressive, the appearance of health and vigor. Anyway it's off to a good start.
Looking at Poseidon for three years now. It tops out at about 4.5 feet so not too tall. For the second spring now, the blooms don't open well and begin to turn a yucky grey color. Seems slow to repeat too. We had a shovel talk recently. Can't say enough good words about Golden Beauty (South Africa). Great in so many ways.
Wow! You have a whole new rose garden!! (Jealous!) I wish I had the room!
I must say, it looks like you've made some excellent choices. Those all are great roses. I wish I could see them in three years when they are well established and blooming. Enjoy!!!
Oh and tell your hubby that we here at garden web/houzz think he's awesome!
Love this rose! Such a great combination of warm yellows and oranges. She's quite stunning.
I would soak it over night and put it in a pot so you can baby her until she's happy and leafed out. Then I'd put her in the ground come fall. If you have good soil or amend the soil well, you can put her directly in the ground. Just never let her dry out.
If the white stuff is flocky and wipes off, it is mildew. This will not be a chronic problem in Houston. Blast it with the hose and then spray just once with 1 tsp baking soda per quart. The lack of growth is probably from too much or too little water or fertilizer. What is it planted in? Looks mucky.
The more people we can get looking for it and removing affected planted especially the neglected ones in commercial plantings, then perhaps the disease level will die down enough we might be able to grow some roses, the way it's going now, it's just going to keep getting worse and worse around here.
I can't answer any questions about the rose bush other than what I said in my original post...it's a Joseph's Coat running rose bush. We haven't trimmed it at all except to cut off the spent blooms (we were told not to for the first two years). We're in North East Texas. The rose bush is in full sun from about 11am and the soil is a sandy loam (a mixture of sand and red clay). Here is a picture from the first year we planted it (two years this month).
Oops...sorry. I missed seeing that your rose is a Joseph's Coat. It's a fairly good grower, but I doubt it can keep up with multiple full-grown plants of yellow jasmine. I'm assuming you're talking about Gelsemium sempervirens, or Carolina jessamine. It's a rambunctious plant here in TN, and there aren't many roses that could keep up with it. I can't say the planting is a "mistake", but it may end up being more upkeep than you want. You're going to need to keep encouraging the rose, and DIScouraging the gelsemium.
John
I recently noticed my Firefighter is also going to be a one cane wonder :( I planted it early last summer. I thought I read a lot about Firefighter I guess I missed that it's not as winter hardy as I thought. If it doesn't pan out I'm going to go with Veteran's Honor.
Back when I had a lot of roses, the beginning of the season pruning was distressing because of cane subtraction. Start with three, then two, then one. I've seen rose bushes with 8 or more and I think it's some kind of miracle.
Since I started up two years ago, I've lost two canes; one I removed when a new cane was crossing with it and another that I fell on.
I'm a huge optimist and if I had the space, I would leave the one cane plant alone and plant another of the same with the requisite number of canes.
The one caner can always be removed and replaced with something else later.
msrose, I believe the drift rose you have in this pic is coral. I posted a whole series of drifts (with pics) on 4-18-15, entitled "No rose blooms continuously like the Drift series". If you like your drift rose, you may find that post interesting. I have around 85 of them.
The one I just planted in the front is actually a carpet rose. I do love the three Drift roses I have in the back though (Pink, Peach, and Sweet). In fact, I was out looking for Apricot today, but couldn't find it. I have a raised bed in my backyard and these roses handle the low water and Texas heat like nothing else. I can't wait to see your pictures!!
I agree Heritage might be a good choice, especially if you're really drawn to it. Since CPM at the other end of this row of roses is pretty tall/climbing, the size of Heritage at this end might look fine, balancing it up.
I wondered, if you liked the idea, whether a simple support (whether functional/disappearing, like a rebar rod teepee, or pretty/decorative, like a painted wooden tuteur) at each end, for CPM and H (or whatever), might help you keep them to a controlled shape, more vertical than widely/wildly sprawling, if horizontal space is an issue. Some do say Heritage is too stiff to train at all, but I think others must have done it. I can't speak to the question from personal experience, but you could search in GardenWeb using the box above to find past threads on the subject, and/or look up 'Heritage' and check the Description, Members Comments and Photos on the HelpMeFind/Roses website to get some idea of the natural growth habits of CPM and H and how others have grown them. Be aware that DAs can vary a lot in both size/vigour and disease resistance in different zones and areas, even in different parts of a garden.
To look up DA alternatives, isn't there an American DA website? Perhaps you could browse through that, then look up any that appeal to you on the above two sources, for further descriptions, photos and comments. I realise you may already be using these resources; I just thought I'd mention them just in case you're not familiar with them - they're both terrifically useful reference points.
Comtesse :¬)
Diane, that's a good idea, thanks! Comtesse, yes, there is a US Austin site, and that's where I got CPM from. I don't know why it didn't occur to me to check with them - I got the new catalog in the mail 3-4 weeks ago, and put it under the coffee table. There's my reading for tonight, although I'm afraid I'll be sorry tomorrow - I didn't read it initially because I can't stop once I open it. I do love Austin roses. Something about all those petals, I think.
I do have a support behind the Princess (well, in my bed she IS, lol!) so as she grows I can put canes up it to try to keep her more vertical than arching. We'll see if she cooperates...
Queen of Sweden is a lovely light pink with a faint apricot blush and very bs resistant and not at all unruly. It grows quite upright and can get rather tall. One of mine is about 7-8 ft tall--I don't quite know why, because the other two are more in the range of 4-5 ft tall (and about 3 ft wide). Perhaps not the quickest re-bloomer when it get really hot, but it is certainly a lovely bloomer when it does bloom. If you got several of them, make a hedge with them--they are great that way. But you can also scatter them around also. Just remember it is not a short shrub, so don't put it in the front row!
Sometimes it can take several years for the Austin shrubs to really hit their prime, so be patient.
Seven Austins for $35? Bargain of the century. Usually ONE Austin costs $35 all by itself! Enjoy!
Kate
Three Queens of Sweden--forming an informal short hedge between my neighbor's garage and my garage.
Wow, you got two really beautiful roses at an unbelievable price. I'm familiar with both, and together they should make a lovely combination colorwise. I used two Tradescants on a central arbor, and flanked them with another upright pink -- Alnwick (Queen of Sweden grows in a similar manner). The Tradescants bloomed like crazy and completely covered the arbor in well under a year. Here's a picture of a Tradescant bloom:
We have an evaluation of Tradescant and many other roses on Humpty Dumpty House facebook. Lots of photos including buds, blooms, leaves, shrub or vine, the arbor, etc. If you visit, please give us a page "like". This simple act can help us get the gardens reopened to the public after my lengthy hospitalization due to an injury. Here's the link:
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Thanks -jannike
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Thank you! I waited 7 months to get these roses so I'm like a new mother that freaks ut about everything with her newborn... They were identified as Japanese beetle grub (one inch long, not too fat, white with legs close to the head, etc.)
Just don't do what I did. Back in the early days I just amended the planting hole in an other wise dryish area. I created the proverbial wet hole and if there is one thing grubs love it wet soil. So the next year when poor rose looked more dead than alive I dug it out to see what the problem was. There were tons of grubs that had migrated to that lush hole I had made. The rose had one tiny root left. Live and learn I guess.