22,795 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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vasue VA(7A Charlottesville)

This one really caught my eye, too. Laguna is certainly beautiful, but too much on the lavender/lilac side of pink to work well here. Sweet Laguna is described on the Daniel Schmitz site as a combination of medium & pale pink. and from various photos looks as if it has a deeper center surrounded by paler petals. Can't tell if it's warm or cool, but best guess is a warm center with a cool border.

Kordes calls it "a color variation of the known and estimated Keltterrose Laguna. As the mother variety is Sweet Laguna very easy to care for and their nostalgic flowers exude a pleasant fragrance." Perhaps an imprecise translation, but does appear to be a sport of Laguna. Especially intriguing is FilRoses estimation of longer bloomtime & stronger perfume. http://tinyurl.com/ol26hxo

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bart_2015

I like Laguna for it's vigour, excellent health, and the fact that it is capable of covering itself in flowers. This last virtue ranks VERY high for me. Actually, for me, Laguna's only semi-fault is it's colour,for on my soil it's not at all lavender/lilac,;(alas! because I'm crazy for that type of cool colour...)it is that very dark pink that is closer to red to my eye. I guess if Sweet Laguna has the virtues of Laguna, it'd be worth a try, even if the colour turns out to be warmer than my ideal. Fact is, I feel a bit "burned" over a rose called Mariella Calderoni, bred by Giulio Pantoli. This is described on HMF (and on the on-line catalogue of the nursery from which I purchased it) as "lilac", or "lilac-pink". Foolishly, I got two. The plants arrived; excellent, huge, and healthy,but the tag clearly described the colour as "coral pink"! Alas, the tag proved right: the flowers are a decidedly warm pink tone, nothing near "lilac"! So now I have to move them, find spots for them in my garden where I want a touch of contrast or just a filler. So I must be more careful in the future!

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jerijen(Zone 10)

I'd never heard of these, before, but I did some reading on them yesterday. A native bee that we haven't (yet) seen in SoCal ... apparently they have been moving north.

Strikingly colored, aren't they? I'd love to hear from some folks who are used to dealing with them. I figure, they might get here eventually, so I'd like to know more.

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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

Mine look like the pretty-colored ones, but they are mostly black :) They are so cute! But they get irritated when you move as they sit on you, lol.

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enchantedrosez6a

Roseseek~ "starve the beast" is right. Either that or no republicans grow roses or maybe none of THEIR roses ever become infected because we are lazy gardeners who deserve it! I will be contacting my congressman about voting against this hateful bill if it does make it out of committee. What an embarrassment our country is becoming with the ignoramuses in charge.
So far I haven't any news that RRD has hit Massachusetts but the thought is still terrifying. Most of my roses are still young. I would be devastated to lose them to this horrific disease. I have read that you are safe if you're not within five hundred feet of Multiflora rose but some have speculated that the mites may be transferred by other means besides wind, possibly carried by JB's, aphids and such. How sad that this hateful idiot's political posturing will not only put our beloved roses at risk but will risk decimating the struggling commercial rose industry which is finally seeming to be on a slow road to recovery from the economic collapse of 2008. Apparently the rose growers don't have a very powerful lobby!

Sharon

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reesepbuttercup 7a- Utah

I was curious about the bill and found this. I get that there's a lot of waste on ag subsidies, but still. The money spend on RRD is peanuts compared to all the corn/ethanol crap.

Jun 26, 2015

SOS

Washington, D.C.—Today, Rep. Matt Salmon (AZ-05) announced the Seventh Shrink our Spending Initiative bill focused on highlighting and cutting wasteful, taxpayer-funded programs. Upon introduction of his latest bill to eliminate federal funding for the Rose Rosette Disease Grant, Salmon released the following statement:

“Though there is nothing wrong with funding research on agricultural diseases, I believe that the National Institute of Food and Agriculture (NIFA) must prioritize the research that will protect our agricultural security.

“This program is at best a government subsidy to the U.S. rose industry, which draws a healthy $400 million of the $2.81 billion wholesale shrub market. The industry had enough money to match the grant money awarded by the federal government; surely they could also afford to fully support their own mite research.”

Background: Rose Rosette Disease (RRD) is a mite borne viral disease that affects the U.S. landscape rose industry. In late 2014, the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s National Institute of Food and Agriculture (NIFA) awarded $4.6 million to “minimize the effect” of rose rosette disease on garden roses. NIFA’s current priority initiatives include: global food security and hunger, climate change, sustainable energy, childhood obesity, and food safety. Cutting this program would save roughly 4.6 million dollars.

Issues:

Spending Cuts and Debt

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jerijen(Zone 10)

Kim describes it perfectly. You see it around here frequently, but usually in locations where paid landscapers stay on top of it.

I wouldn't do it because:
1. I am a lazy gardener, and I avoid all that work like the plague; and . . .
2. I really do prefer them looking wild.

As we age, the garden becomes less-disciplined with every passing year, so it's probably a good thing that I like "un-restrained" plants. :-)

Jeri

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wnan42

I saw a same shoot from my white lady banksia in my garden. I suspected it's having RRD. I nearly start to cut the whole plant down if I didn't see this post.

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summersrhythm_z6a

Waiting for the rain to stop, so I can spray all the roses again, sprayed some of roses for canker two days ago right before the rain, I can see some BS showed up on a few roses.

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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

Ok, maybe it was the lack of rain, although we did have some. I usually stretch out my spray schedule when it gets warmer in late July/August, but this is kind of early. Of course the worry about blackspot has been replaced by thrips and JBs.

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john_hook(France)

www.frenchtearose.com could supply export certificates but they would require the necessary import certificates from your agricultural department. Please check what type of roses do OK in your climate, many would fail.

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nochintami

i have been waiting for "the god goes down to earth" and its you..thank you is not enough,mr john hook..i wish you and your family good luck in your lifetime..

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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

I have Kim's original Lynnie and she is FABULOUS. Right now she is coated with bloom. I can see why Kim likes her behind his roses.

Quinceanera is doing wonderful and I just noticed I need to start tying up Annie Laurie McDowell because she is throwing canes trying to climb the arch already.

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roseseek(9)

Lovely! Congratulations! Yes ma'am, Lynnie has great genes and she freely passes them on to her "babies". Give her a half-way decent partner and there is no telling what could result. Nearly every seedling using her pollen on Pretty Lady is a winner. Great foliage, vigor, good health and scent in abundance. I'm glad Annie appears to have some feet under her so she will start stretching for you. I can imagine what Quinceanera looks like. The flowers here in the cool, damp have been enormous and long lasting. I can't wait to bud it on a standard!

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jerijen(Zone 10)

If they're going to tent the house, the chemical WILL be harmful to the rose. But it's not necessarily a disaster.

Do as Jackie describes. Cut it back at least to some degree. You might get a rope behind it, and pull the plant forward, AWAY from the house. Then, put a tarp over it -- I would use one of those blue plastic ones, I think.

Be sure that the tarp goes all the way to the ground, between the rose and the house, and weight it down with sandbags or large rocks. I think you'll have a good hope that the rose will be damaged only minimally.

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teakettle2

Thank you for your replies. The termite tent man came out and said the rose would have to go inside the tent. He said it would almost certainly kill it. I think both of your suggestions are good - it is a tough plant. When we get to that point I think I will cut it way way back and wrap it. I see that there are bags they give you to put your food in - if you leave your food inside the house (why?) that are supposed to be safe. In any event we are waiting til fall - we have to leave the house open for 3 days and saturate the ground with water for three days before tenting. Its over 100 degrees here now and we are in a drought - so I cant water that much.

Thank you again - it was so nice of you to take the time to answer. You gave me some hope - which I really appreciate.

Sue

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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Have you thought about Elegant Lady (otherwise known as Diana, Princess of Wales)? I don't really know anything about it other than that it is truly a beautiful pink/ivory/touch of yellow hybrid tea. Here's a link to some pics: Elegant Lady .

Kate

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mustbnuts zone 9 sunset 9

Seil, I just love that Watercolors rose. I may have to check that one out next year since it looks like some of my new purchases may not make it through our hot summer.

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rosecanadian

Wow!!! That's tall!!

Hmmmm...looks like this might be a challenging rose.

Carol

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mustbnuts zone 9 sunset 9

Beautiful bloom! Reminds me of my Brother Cadfael who has canes over 5 feet at the moment. One looks like it is clearing my 6 foot fence.

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sandytv

2015 spring I planted Out of Rosenheim and Veranda Ruby. Rosenheim has a nice old world blossom however not a good plant. The stalks are not strong enough to hold the blossoms and this plant needs constant staking. The Ruby has small but prolific floribunda style blossoms groupings. PROBLEM...is that only about half of the buds make it to full bloom....the rest are falling off! I have looked and looked for the cause of this and am stumped. This is the first year so they get one more for good measure!!

Zone 9 - Qualicum Beach, Vancouver Island

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jazzmom516(Zone 7 LI, NY)

I have 'Grande Amore' in my rose garden for several years as well as 'Mandarin Ice' both lovely and disease resistant. Picture is of a 'Grande Amore' bud. I don't have a recent photo of 'Mandarin Ice'.

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sam 5a Adirondack

It took us a few years to buy an ebb tide. We couldn't find it. I forget where we finally got it.

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jazzmom516(Zone 7 LI, NY)

At least they didn't use a rose called 'Twilight Zone' for the show. LOL

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roseseek(9)

My approach is similar to yours Buford, but how something was produced has no bearing on whether it's infected. Start with an infected rose, root it, bud it to VI root stock and you still have an infected rose until it is appropriately heat treated. Own root means nothing, other than the lack of suckers and the potential for it to return from the roots should something destroy the above ground growth.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

I wonder whether the rose in the OP defoliated as I expected. If so, it will recover.

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Amir Eghbal

I am trying to determine whether I would need a trellis for it or not

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AquaEyes 7a New Jersey

I'd say "probably not" since many climbers don't bloom much (or at all) until they've put out their big climbing canes. However, there are some vigorous "shrub roses" which can put out some long canes and can be trained to climb, such as many David Austin roses. In that case, you don't necessarily need a trellis if you keep it pruned to shrub-shape.

:-)

~Christopher

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Donna R zone 6a

Such sweet pictures, Jacqueline. Yesterday, my husband came inside and wanted me to see something. A baby deer was lying in the area right by the door to our chicken coop run. It was shady there and it was resting. They are darling. I have such mixed feeling about them. I love them, but dislike it when they eat everything we work hard to take care of in our yard. I just have to be more diligent about spraying.

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summersrhythm_z6a

Yes, they're pretty, I have a 8 points huge deer head in my living room, bought it from a hunter's wife. Try to find another one for the family room.

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