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henryinct

I have Gardens of the World and it is just about the most vigorous heaviest bloomer of them all. No mildew but not as tall as Granada with red-pink-white blooms that resemble Cherry Parfait. It is much better than Cherry Parfait IMO both for strength and bloom quality. I highly recommend Gardens but I don't know if it is available.

I would never be critical of Californians since I love it there. I know when we get out there I'm not going to want to work all the time in the garden like I do here. It is a 100 percent completely different lifestyle.

As far as Granada is concerned, with the regular spraying I do anyway powdery mildew is a problem barely worth mentioning even on Granada. I think some years I haven't even seen it at all and I can't think of any other rose in the garden that gets it. Granada is my favorite red-pink-yellow blend because it is so big and vigorous and such a good producer of it funky colorful blooms. I would suggest that on the the west coast where you can grow it without worrying about PM you ought to give it a try.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2009 at 9:08AM
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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

This is definitely a rose that loves dry heat. My Granada has not been sprayed and has no mildew or blackspot what so ever. It produces large flushes in quick succession. Each flush will have more than 100 long stem roses perfect for cutting. It is also very long lasting as a cut flower - around 10-12 days in a vase. My garden is in zone 10 Mediterranean climate with 40 degree C dry heat in summer. My Granada is on Fortuniana rootstock so extremely vigorous.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2015 at 4:38PM
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redwolfdoc_z5(5)

Fantastic! You're going to love it.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2015 at 2:41PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Nice looking rose!

    Bookmark     April 25, 2015 at 3:53PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

Bagged roses are bareroots, at least they were before they broke dormancy. You can repot them now, but be prepared for wilting leaves, which might happen after transplant. Water them very well before and after transplant. Better now than when the canes start growing out.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2015 at 2:55PM
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poppy_pa_6b

Thanks for your reply diane_nj! I differentiated them from a typical bare root rose that has a larger root system intact that aren't sold in bags thinking they'd be less able to withstand a repotting 2 wks in. But maybe you're saying it doesn't make a difference how big the root system is,a bare root is a bare root. Do you think the wilted leaves will bounce back?

    Bookmark     April 25, 2015 at 3:27PM
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jasminerose4u, California(9b)

Oops, I was editing my post while you were adding yours. Rosecandy, I hope the Amazon tip helps.

    Bookmark     April 19, 2015 at 7:11PM
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Rosecandy VA, zone 7

We have a lot of praying mantis, if the many nests I find are any indication. I never find any in my garden, though. I plan to plant some companion plants someday, but every time I research them it seems like they always grow into a bush! I just finished fencing in my garden to keep deer and rabbits out - I can't afford to expand it for non-roses. I also really don't want my young rose plants to have to compete with something like marigolds right now, since they're only about a year old and I just finished planting about 14 more from bands.

That's why I'm thinking predator insects, which unfortunately seems to be another dead end. I can't find pirate bugs for a more reasonable price ($65 might be reasonable for 500 of them, but I don't need 500 of them) and I keep reading that lady bugs and lacewings prefer aphids over thrips and that they'll fly off and/or eat each other. You also need to "apply" them after you're already infested, vs. the pirate bugs which can be used as a preventive. I might try asking around to see if anyone wants to split the bugs and cost with me....maybe I'll get lucky.

Does anyone know if pirate bugs can be fed something at the end of summer to keep them from biting people?

    Bookmark     April 25, 2015 at 2:34PM
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zack_lau z6 CT

http://www.paulbardenroses.com/hulse.html

From what I've read in many places the heel wood roots most easily.

1 Like    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 6:52PM Thanked by mikey616
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mikey616

dude that's so awsome! i didn't even you could do that. thanks for the link. and thanks to everyone who replied for a bit i thought i did some serious damage. :)

    Bookmark     April 25, 2015 at 12:34PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Nice looking roses anyhow!

    Bookmark     April 25, 2015 at 8:18AM
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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

I ditto Jim's comments. Eh, beetles and earwigs are part of garden experience. Just ignore them if you can. Remember that you trespassing their space..lol.

    Bookmark     April 25, 2015 at 11:21AM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I found this long lost thread I started back in 2011.... I know its 3+ years late but I want to thank everyone again for there input! This year I'm finally trying some of the suggestions... Earthsong, Prairie Harvest, and some others...

Thanks!

    Bookmark     April 25, 2015 at 8:13AM
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wirosarian_z4b_WI

Also check out roses with ADR certification, a German testing program. Palatines of Canada has a good number of them for sale.

1 Like    Bookmark     April 25, 2015 at 9:48AM
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amanda

i live in florida zone 9 the garden was left alone for about six months due to school and life bein way to hard for a while .. i thought everything was dead but all i lost was a mini . i gave the same mix i always do and they never perked up its pretty much summer so idk if i should just prune them way down and feed them agian ...

    Bookmark     April 25, 2015 at 7:01AM
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amanda

i have never really pruned the drifts just dead headed .. could that be the issue or part of it

    Bookmark     April 25, 2015 at 7:08AM
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summersrhythm_z6a

Thanks agin Bayarea_girl, I love the Wedgewood rose- just by one look! :-) I ordered some roses from David Austin TX today: The Wedgewood, Wild Eve, Malvern Hills and The Albrighton Rambler.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 3:33PM
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bayarea_girl(NorCA 9)

Thank you everyone.

Thanks Jo. The info that you gave regarding Wedgwood Rose is very useful to many of us.

Karen, you are right. That is one of the reasons I took these pics ;)

Summersrhythm, those are beautiful roses especially Wedgwood Rose. You must have a big garden.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 11:40PM
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arcus_85(5b)

1.firefighter
2.twice in a blue moon
3.flaming cardinal
4.signature
5.chris evert
6.stainless steel
7.papa meilland

    Bookmark     October 12, 2013 at 12:36PM
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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

In my hot and dry zone 10 climate not many roses would hold much fragrance in the 40 degrees Celcius heat but if I cut them and bring them in these will still smell good: Firefighter, Stainless Steel, Memorial Day, Double Delight, New Zealand, Barbra Streisand. Ebb tides still smells good in the morning but fries by late morning. When the temperature comes down, Frederic Mistral, Papa Meilland, Crimson Glory, Beverley, Blue Moon and Felicia all smell fantastic.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 7:13PM
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Oops--wrong forum.Sorry--forgot where I was
Posted by dublinbay z6 (KS) April 24, 2015
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jasminerose4u, California(9b)

Oh, great. Now I'm curious about what you were going to post. Hope you get to where you wanted to go. :)

    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 2:23PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

You can go over to Hot Topics and pick your choice--but be careful. Sometimes in-coming fire over there. : )

Kate

    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 3:55PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

3-in-1 products aren't recommended (sorry Dad). You don't want to use insecticides, they also kill the beneficials (like earthworms), and should only be used for specific problems. The fungicide isn't strong enough, nor is the fertilizer. Best to tackle each issue individually. They are looking good so far!

    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 11:54AM
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danuv

I never reapplied the 3-in-1 after the first time. It didn't feel like it did much of anything to me. Jack of all trades master of none I guess. Also I wanted to be able to grow some strawberries in that front bed and the -icides seemed like a bad addition. Going with Rose-Tone for now and I realize that black spot will be a somewhat inevitable part of life with roses in Georgia and will do what I can to minimize it without fungicides.

I don't have the massive yards and gardens that some of you do (YET!) so I suspect the clipping and mulched leaves from my own yard will do for now and they're not treated with anything aside from mild contempt from my husband.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 12:54PM
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kublakan

Good point Michael. John, have you tried to fertilize the roses to promote blooming at another time of the year.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 11:44AM Thanked by John McInarnay
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John McInarnay

It's at my dad's house and I don't think he fertilizes it.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 11:57AM
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Dingo2001 - Z5 Chicagoland(5)

I like it! And I think it will look nice and blend with the colors you have - I love the bright stuff. After winter with all the brown stuff it's nice to see!

    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 7:29AM
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comtessedelacouche (10b S.Australia: hotdryMedclimate)

Just got back from a circuitous journey, distracted in turn by Jacques Majorelle's currently rather unfashionable art, his father Louis's Art Nouveau furniture, and Yves Saint Laurent's 'Love' card series from the 1970s and 80s, as byways in my search for a good link to post here to the Majorelle Garden - only to find StillAnn had found the excellent one above...

If a shade of blue could ever be described as hot, this would surely be it - it simply sizzles!

I think, as Ingrid said, it's very much a matter of personal taste combined with how this colour works with the colours and degree of brightness of the surroundings, and the general ambience you wish to create...

One possibility, if the colour of the pots does appears to 'shout' a bit too loudly, might be to connect it in with its surroundings by painting something else a little way away in the exact same shade - e.g. an archway/arbour, a little fence or gate, an obelisk/tuteur or some garden furniture; or perhaps create a little mosaic feature like a birdbath or edging for some steps (I'm sure you were longing for another crafty project!). Or, as some garden designers around here were doing a while back, simply by 'planting' a few painted posts and/or bunches of sticks as arty/funky vertical accents, in a little group or wavy line for example. Sorry I don't have a picture to illustrate.

Love to see some photos, it sounds very pretty...

Comtesse :¬)

1 Like    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 9:26AM
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himalayanmusk51

The scent is missing from my roses and I'm so disappointed! I have Rose de Rescht, Comte de Chambord, and Zephirine Drouhin and the David Austin Rose, Falstaff...and only sometimes if there a faint whiff of scent. I thought I was losing my sense of smell, but I can smell the aromas from my lavender, thyme, rosemary, mint and marjoram and anise hyssop (and my apricots which are stewing as I write!). So it's not my nose. Maybe my garden's too dry. Anyway, thanks for the information, glad to see it's not just me & my garden, & glad I joined this site.

    Bookmark     July 7, 2013 at 12:28AM
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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

I agree with all the above. Often when I take cut roses to work I cannot smell much of the fragrance while I was in the car but once I take them out of the car the strong fragrance hit me in the face straight away. My roses here in hot dry climate smell their best in autumn. Spring is less good and summer is the worst. There are a few roses that continue to impress with their strong fragrance in hot dry summer though - Firefighter, New Zealand, Memorial Day, Felicia, Ebb Tide (in the morning) still manage to pump out lots of scent at 40 degrees C.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 8:01AM
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