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Steve_gw, The blooms on ThinkingOfYou are a decent size, as is the bush itself which has a neat vertical habit with shiny bronze leaves. The only drawback I have about it is that in common with most scented HybridTea reds, the bloom color fades after a few days to a pinkish hue. I'm currently trialing Royal William which has had very good write-ups in the UK, just to see if it has the same issue.

I was thinking of this thread when I saw our ever returning unnamed rose today. As I recall it was relegated to the untamed wilds at the back of our property a several years due to an ever present pest problem when it was front and centre. It doesn't get enough sun now and the deer invariably snack on it flower buds before it blooms. But this year it has come through. I am proud of it. Such RED!




Summersrhythm; Thanx for your input- I use Bayer's systemic rose & flower granules, but haven't been very regular with it. Michaelg; as for the leaves, a few had black spot but not as bad as I've seen in previous years. A different rose bush looks like it was fried, but the leaves are still hanging on. As mentioned above I use a systemic because I feel it is a more direct application & I don't have to wait for a calm day (few & far apart here where I live) to spray. Do you think I should cut the canes down now? We are in the midst of some pretty hot & humid weather with daily afternoon t-storms, I'm not sure if that would help or shock them. Most of my roses are floribundas or teas & have been growing several years.


I had the same thing happened to one of my ramblers this year-Brushing Lucy, it can't go around the whole porch now due to the same issue. I have to cut it back a lot in the early spring. I am in zone 6a, it has been pretty winter hardy, but this year I also had rabbit damage to some of the main canes. Some of the canes don't have much leaves, and turned brown......canker issue! I cut off some of the branches earlier, then we got sooo much rain for a long time, it rained everyday for 2 weeks straight. I think my issue is due to the canker. Now I have to wait when the hot weather cools down a little, and cut it back more tonight. Now is 81 degrees and sunny, the air is burnning outside!

Heirloom Roses carries it and it's in stock :) Looks like a pretty rose. I love climbers: Spice So Nice at Heirloom Roses




We're guessing on the sawfly larvae, of course. If you could upload photos of damaged leaves, we could say for sure.
All you have to do, to upload photos, is click on the little "photo" icon shown where you type your post. Then, you can "browse" for a photo in your files.
OR you can go to:
https://www.google.com/search?q=sawfly+larvae+damage&biw=1077&bih=561&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=GVuHVcbyL4-cyATxk63IBQ&ved=0CC4QsAQ
to see what sawfly larvae and their damage looks like.
And, as several have said -- using toxic chemicals for this pest is like killing flies with a sledgehammer. The peripheral damage is worse than the original problem.

Mintboxer, Where did you purchase Terminix All Clear Mister? It's pretty expensive. I don't think HD/Lowe's carry that. It's nice to know it works on sawflies. Thanks for the info. I tried to make 1 gal spray with a mosquito dunk for midge, it didn't work very well, but I did get a few rose buds on one cane out of a whole bush, but that's midge, which is very hard to kill. I know HD & Lowe's have Safer Brand Insect Killer soap for about $6.00/7.00, some of my friends from rose club use that for sawflies and other bugs. I think that's a organic spray, beacuse one of them who uses Safer Brand Insect Killer soap, she eats roses. :-) I use Bayer's Inects Killer this season, because I have midge issue in my rose garden. it does kill a lot of bugs inculding midge, sawflies, bad and good bugs.......I spray it right before dark, so it won't kill any honey bees. This season I also spray Bioneem (about $10 from Amazon), which is also a organic spray for bugs, I'm trying it out for midge issue, it works on sawflies too, but I think that's a strong spray for just sawflies. I spray that at night when the temperture is under 80. I'd say Safer Brand Insect Killer soap is the cheapest if you choose to spray. :-)



After a flower fades, the stem just below it is suitable for rooting as a half-hardened cutting. Search online for "rose propagation," or "rooting rose cuttings." The failure rate is pretty high for beginners, though.
Another approach is to use stems that are thicker and more fully hardened and just stick them in the ground in the shade during a season with high humidity and frequent rain. Here in the temperate zone, we can do this over winter. Again, it is hit or miss. Set 3/4 of the cutting below ground.
Welcome, your English is fine.

I find it easy enough to grind up the leaves with a leaf shredder and dump it all onto a compost pile--where it gets transformed into this wonderful black crumbly stuff--a far cry from the slimy mess of leaves that seems to create disease issues with my roses. The additional steps involved are well worth the effort in my garden.

I just spread fallen leaves over the rose beds in autumn 3-4 inches deep and some more again in spring after the mulch has thinned. I haven't had any problem with canker. It's basically sheet composting cum mulching. Good weed suppression, moisture retention, and humus added to the soil faster than bark would do. It's also the most labor-efficient and cheapest solution if you have enough leaves.






HMF says Angel Gardens has it. Have you called them?
Hi Seil. I haven't posted in a few years - I appreciate your comment, and yes, I looked at Angel Gardens website but calling them is a good idea. I'll do it!