22,795 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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jerijen(Zone 10)

We're guessing on the sawfly larvae, of course. If you could upload photos of damaged leaves, we could say for sure.
All you have to do, to upload photos, is click on the little "photo" icon shown where you type your post. Then, you can "browse" for a photo in your files.

OR you can go to:
https://www.google.com/search?q=sawfly+larvae+damage&biw=1077&bih=561&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=GVuHVcbyL4-cyATxk63IBQ&ved=0CC4QsAQ
to see what sawfly larvae and their damage looks like.

And, as several have said -- using toxic chemicals for this pest is like killing flies with a sledgehammer. The peripheral damage is worse than the original problem.

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summersrhythm_z6a

Mintboxer, Where did you purchase Terminix All Clear Mister? It's pretty expensive. I don't think HD/Lowe's carry that. It's nice to know it works on sawflies. Thanks for the info. I tried to make 1 gal spray with a mosquito dunk for midge, it didn't work very well, but I did get a few rose buds on one cane out of a whole bush, but that's midge, which is very hard to kill. I know HD & Lowe's have Safer Brand Insect Killer soap for about $6.00/7.00, some of my friends from rose club use that for sawflies and other bugs. I think that's a organic spray, beacuse one of them who uses Safer Brand Insect Killer soap, she eats roses. :-) I use Bayer's Inects Killer this season, because I have midge issue in my rose garden. it does kill a lot of bugs inculding midge, sawflies, bad and good bugs.......I spray it right before dark, so it won't kill any honey bees. This season I also spray Bioneem (about $10 from Amazon), which is also a organic spray for bugs, I'm trying it out for midge issue, it works on sawflies too, but I think that's a strong spray for just sawflies. I spray that at night when the temperture is under 80. I'd say Safer Brand Insect Killer soap is the cheapest if you choose to spray. :-)

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butterfly4u(Aiken, SC zone 8)

The rose is a Bluegirl by Kordes. I am going to pick it up tomorrow, they have a few of them left, and plant in the ground in the pot til the end of September, then decide where I want to plant it. Thanks everyone. That is one sweet looking lavender rose.

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junco East Georgia zone 8a(zone 8a)

Butterfly4u--which nursery has this rose? I'm in Augusta and would be interested in looking.

Thanks

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nochintami

Thanks jjpeace for the reply,i have contacted DA and they said they couldnt ship overseas.is it possible to send a plant from one country to another?does it need any certificate or something?

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nochintami

Thanks michaelg for helping me to identify..i just know that there are a lot of name in rose world.even the flower is same but the name is different in different place..its confusing for me.

Thanks ken for your advice..

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

After a flower fades, the stem just below it is suitable for rooting as a half-hardened cutting. Search online for "rose propagation," or "rooting rose cuttings." The failure rate is pretty high for beginners, though.

Another approach is to use stems that are thicker and more fully hardened and just stick them in the ground in the shade during a season with high humidity and frequent rain. Here in the temperate zone, we can do this over winter. Again, it is hit or miss. Set 3/4 of the cutting below ground.

Welcome, your English is fine.

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zack_lau z6 CT

I find it easy enough to grind up the leaves with a leaf shredder and dump it all onto a compost pile--where it gets transformed into this wonderful black crumbly stuff--a far cry from the slimy mess of leaves that seems to create disease issues with my roses. The additional steps involved are well worth the effort in my garden.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

I just spread fallen leaves over the rose beds in autumn 3-4 inches deep and some more again in spring after the mulch has thinned. I haven't had any problem with canker. It's basically sheet composting cum mulching. Good weed suppression, moisture retention, and humus added to the soil faster than bark would do. It's also the most labor-efficient and cheapest solution if you have enough leaves.

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frances_in_nj(z6 NJ)

Roseseek, do you know if in fact it does rebloom?

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roseseek(9)

It's like many which combine genes from once flowering and repeaters. In the right climate, the right conditions, with the suitable maturity, it CAN rebloom. It can't be guaranteed to rebloom everywhere and every year. I grew Silver Moon, a once flowering LCL in Newhall, CA for 18 years. After it was six or so years old and attained "mountain size", it regularly flowered every spring and continued scattering flowers until late fall, but it isn't a "repeat flowering" type. Pink Clouds CAN do similarly. If your "spring" is long and mild enough so roses like Banksiae will continue flowering for weeks to months, you can probably expect the same from PC. Where that once flowering period is cut short by the sudden, extreme season change as if someone flipped a light switch, it will probably do what the others do and stop when the heat hits.

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Ruth_9B

Incidentally, I also bought 3 bareroot roses from Regan Nursery in Jan or Feb. 1 died right away and 2 have rose midge. I have no choice but to spray chemicals because there are other roses nearby. Terrible!

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Brandon Cakes(Zone 11 - Kailua, Hawaii (O`ahu))
I don't know if the bugs came from the nursery, but I can definitely say they did spread to ALL my roses. Joseph's Coat stayed pretty clean, but I spray him anyway. I decided that I'm going to keep spraying them, and forget about using the petals for the chickens anymore.
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Marigold33

SoFL, I adore Veteran's Honor, I planted 2 of them in my mother's garden but alas it gets black spot and completely defoliates. I never sprayed it though, I wonder if spraying would make a big difference? It has with some of my other plants but not all. I just saw a VH in my nursery in a gallon pot I was so tempted to buy it.

Patty. I definitely will check into Kardinal and Desmond, thanks so much!

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SoFL Rose z10

It does make a huge difference if you spray. Not everyone wants to. If you are willing to spray it will be great, if not, look for a Kords red or an old garden red. Usually they are more disease resistant. But ogr's get huge and aren't always repeat bloomers so keep that in mind.

Usually spraying is needed for the more modern "better formed" blooms. Old garden reds tend to be sloppy in form but easier to care for. It's a bit of a trade off.

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SoFL Rose z10

I just got this rose finally and on fortuniana too. I can't wait for it to get going :)

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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

I am so jealous--I'd love to have Julia on fortuniana. She'd probably be eight feet tall! But it would be fun to see the results with this rootstock. Diane

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Ninkasi(6-7 Germany)

I love moonstone! Yours Is Beautiful!

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cadiarose(zone 7a, NJ)

Lol, I was going to post exactly what SoFL said. then I went off to clean my bathroom.

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cadiarose(zone 7a, NJ)

Buford, you will love Crescendo!

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SoFL Rose z10

I got it as part of my brecks order and I adore it. So far it's had some of the Mose beautiful blooms I've ever seen. Perfect form and lasting power too.

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Thats funny I do the same thing. First I can hardly wait to get them. Then I can barely wait for them to become established.

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Jennifer Tidwell

I have a red double that is about 6 years old and it's taller than I am. I cut it back a little every year and it's still taller than me (I'm 5'6").

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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

This year I resorted to cutting off all the blooms/buds that were thrip damaged. This is a bad year for thrips. If you do that, make sure you put the buds in a plastic bag, seal tightly and put in the garbage, do not compost.

I did resort to spraying, I used Orthene, which exhibitors recommend. It is a strong chemical, but did the job. I misted any new buds with it, avoiding any open blooms.

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sam 5a Adirondack

Thanks Henry for posting this. I was happy to find out about the rose chat podcast.

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sam 5a Adirondack

Hey Paul

Keep up the good work and thank you very much for your description on rose care and focus on soil health and the three strikes rose out. your videos. They are great. Thanks

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Prettypetals_GA_7-8

Everything looks beautiful Andrea. I agree about the grass. Your hubby is so sweet to suggest more roses for you. Mine loves mine but tells me enuf is enuf. He is a sweetie and helps me a bunch but he doesn't understand he still has way more grass than he needs. lol Thanks for sharing, Judy

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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

Very healthy and beautiful roses! I really like your bouquet. The painted roses are very striking. I admire people who grow roses in the middle of the lawn. You must be dedicated to keep the lawn edges sprawling towards your roses. If I were to do that in my hot climate I would have to trim the grass edges every week.

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