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arcus_85(5b)

1.firefighter
2.twice in a blue moon
3.flaming cardinal
4.signature
5.chris evert
6.stainless steel
7.papa meilland

    Bookmark     October 12, 2013 at 12:36PM
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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

In my hot and dry zone 10 climate not many roses would hold much fragrance in the 40 degrees Celcius heat but if I cut them and bring them in these will still smell good: Firefighter, Stainless Steel, Memorial Day, Double Delight, New Zealand, Barbra Streisand. Ebb tides still smells good in the morning but fries by late morning. When the temperature comes down, Frederic Mistral, Papa Meilland, Crimson Glory, Beverley, Blue Moon and Felicia all smell fantastic.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 7:13PM
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Oops--wrong forum.Sorry--forgot where I was
Posted by dublinbay z6 (KS) April 24, 2015
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jasminerose4u, California(9b)

Oh, great. Now I'm curious about what you were going to post. Hope you get to where you wanted to go. :)

    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 2:23PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

You can go over to Hot Topics and pick your choice--but be careful. Sometimes in-coming fire over there. : )

Kate

    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 3:55PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

3-in-1 products aren't recommended (sorry Dad). You don't want to use insecticides, they also kill the beneficials (like earthworms), and should only be used for specific problems. The fungicide isn't strong enough, nor is the fertilizer. Best to tackle each issue individually. They are looking good so far!

    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 11:54AM
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danuv

I never reapplied the 3-in-1 after the first time. It didn't feel like it did much of anything to me. Jack of all trades master of none I guess. Also I wanted to be able to grow some strawberries in that front bed and the -icides seemed like a bad addition. Going with Rose-Tone for now and I realize that black spot will be a somewhat inevitable part of life with roses in Georgia and will do what I can to minimize it without fungicides.

I don't have the massive yards and gardens that some of you do (YET!) so I suspect the clipping and mulched leaves from my own yard will do for now and they're not treated with anything aside from mild contempt from my husband.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 12:54PM
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kublakan

Good point Michael. John, have you tried to fertilize the roses to promote blooming at another time of the year.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 11:44AM Thanked by John McInarnay
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John McInarnay

It's at my dad's house and I don't think he fertilizes it.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 11:57AM
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Dingo2001 - Z5 Chicagoland(5)

I like it! And I think it will look nice and blend with the colors you have - I love the bright stuff. After winter with all the brown stuff it's nice to see!

    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 7:29AM
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comtessedelacouche (10b S.Australia: hotdryMedclimate)

Just got back from a circuitous journey, distracted in turn by Jacques Majorelle's currently rather unfashionable art, his father Louis's Art Nouveau furniture, and Yves Saint Laurent's 'Love' card series from the 1970s and 80s, as byways in my search for a good link to post here to the Majorelle Garden - only to find StillAnn had found the excellent one above...

If a shade of blue could ever be described as hot, this would surely be it - it simply sizzles!

I think, as Ingrid said, it's very much a matter of personal taste combined with how this colour works with the colours and degree of brightness of the surroundings, and the general ambience you wish to create...

One possibility, if the colour of the pots does appears to 'shout' a bit too loudly, might be to connect it in with its surroundings by painting something else a little way away in the exact same shade - e.g. an archway/arbour, a little fence or gate, an obelisk/tuteur or some garden furniture; or perhaps create a little mosaic feature like a birdbath or edging for some steps (I'm sure you were longing for another crafty project!). Or, as some garden designers around here were doing a while back, simply by 'planting' a few painted posts and/or bunches of sticks as arty/funky vertical accents, in a little group or wavy line for example. Sorry I don't have a picture to illustrate.

Love to see some photos, it sounds very pretty...

Comtesse :¬)

1 Like    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 9:26AM
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himalayanmusk51

The scent is missing from my roses and I'm so disappointed! I have Rose de Rescht, Comte de Chambord, and Zephirine Drouhin and the David Austin Rose, Falstaff...and only sometimes if there a faint whiff of scent. I thought I was losing my sense of smell, but I can smell the aromas from my lavender, thyme, rosemary, mint and marjoram and anise hyssop (and my apricots which are stewing as I write!). So it's not my nose. Maybe my garden's too dry. Anyway, thanks for the information, glad to see it's not just me & my garden, & glad I joined this site.

    Bookmark     July 7, 2013 at 12:28AM
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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

I agree with all the above. Often when I take cut roses to work I cannot smell much of the fragrance while I was in the car but once I take them out of the car the strong fragrance hit me in the face straight away. My roses here in hot dry climate smell their best in autumn. Spring is less good and summer is the worst. There are a few roses that continue to impress with their strong fragrance in hot dry summer though - Firefighter, New Zealand, Memorial Day, Felicia, Ebb Tide (in the morning) still manage to pump out lots of scent at 40 degrees C.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 8:01AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Thanks, Henry! I enjoy reading another society's newsletters and seeing how they're done. It's good information even if your in a different zone. Knowledge is always useful.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 6:35AM
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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

So gorgeous!! And her scent really is wonderful.

Mine is one of my favorite roses, and it's hard to choose, so that says a lot. I'm so happy to see her with buds already :) Last year the polar vortex during horrible winds nearly killed her, and she had to re-grow everything above ground! She got a few nice canes since then, but this year is when I'll get to enjoy the blooms again :)

She's probably hardier than I make her sound, too, y'all. Mine was grafted, not buried, and wasn't protected. This year I had her buried to go ownroot, and I did protect her base all winter. Her canes did great, and we dipped as cold as last winter :)

1 Like    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 7:33PM Thanked by James_Shaw_San Francisco Bay Area
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seil zone 6b MI

It's beautiful! Wish I could smell it too.

1 Like    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 6:30AM
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Prettypetals_GA_7-8

Wow! It's absolutely beautiful. I really really need to get Peace again. Sooooo beautiful!!! Judy

    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 8:33PM
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jkellydallas(8a)

I still don't think that is Peace. I could be wrong, but it looks very different from mine.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 10:55PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

I'm very impressed with 'Munstead Wood', but any dark red rose is going to get fried in hot sun to some extent. A dark red is a dark color that is going to absorb a lot of heat and dessicate--the nature of the beast. MW is darker than WS2K and Darcey Bussell.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 4:53PM
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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

If Red Eden (Eric Tabarly ®) isn't too tall, I love him. He's very shrubby, so keeping him a shrub is easy, at least where I am. But watch out if you are in one of those areas where balling is a big problem, because his petals are already slow to open. He's got a very globular, very double bloom form (that I love).

    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 7:59PM
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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

Memorial Day, Beverley, Frederic Mistral, Double Delight, Firefighter, Barbra Streisand, New Zealand, Evelyn, Sonia Rykiel, Ebb Tide (afternoon shade), Felicia (afternoon shade), Big Purple, Perfume Delight, Stainless Steel, Crimson Glory, Granada, Fragrant Cloud. These all grow superbly and are flower machines in my zone 10 garden with long hot and dry summer heat.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 7:37AM
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Sylvia Weiser Wendel

I'll second Granada, and throw in Gold Medal. GM seems to have more fragrance to my nose. Austin's Tamora (top photo) smells terrific, I think, and has done brilliantly here in hot'n'dry land (SoCal). That picture was taken during a spell of triple-digit days last year. Gold Medal's in the foreground of the bottom photo, Granada in back of it.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 7:45PM
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steve_gw

Yes, got to keep it but doubt it will make winter without a root system...
When its time to put to bed for winter, I'll take a photo and we'll see what happens....

    Bookmark     April 22, 2015 at 7:03PM
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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

Good luck!

    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 5:48PM
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Jerri Moore

Why do you have to freeze the seeds first and for how long can't i just plant them in the ground i am new to rose growing sorry lol

    Bookmark     April 22, 2015 at 3:47PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Jerri Moore, this is an old thread. You might want to start a brand new thread to get better answers.

Exposing seeds to cold is called stratification; some seeds need it, others don't. It simulates what the seed would experience in nature. I can't help you with more than that. Some people say rose seeds need stratification, some people don't. It might also depend on the type of rose.

Another thing to keep in mind is that seeds from a hybrid rose won't be the same as the parent. Because of the complex hybridization of roses, they do not "come true" from seed. Only species roses (those found naturally, that existed before humans started hybridizing) come true from seed.

1 Like    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 4:59PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

True hybrid teas like 'Savoy Hotel' are not very attractive plants to have straddling your sidewalk. 'Mother of Pearl' is bushier but would still give you the type of cutting roses that you want.

'Julia Child' would be fine. So, for that matter, would be 'Knock Out'. The size can be controlled to about 4' x 3' wide by pruning to 2' in spring. But maybe they are planted too close to the sidewalk, or you just don't like them.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 12:43PM
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summersrhythm_z6a

Check out the David Austin roses, they're hardy and very pretty, great for cuttings. I am in zone 6a, HT roses don't do well here.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 3:43PM
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James_Shaw_San Francisco Bay Area

Dynamite roses and photos, Sara Ann.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 7:36AM Thanked by sara_ann-z6bok
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Sunsprite is really bright! Both very Nice blooms!

    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 2:43PM
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