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himalayanmusk51

The scent is missing from my roses and I'm so disappointed! I have Rose de Rescht, Comte de Chambord, and Zephirine Drouhin and the David Austin Rose, Falstaff...and only sometimes if there a faint whiff of scent. I thought I was losing my sense of smell, but I can smell the aromas from my lavender, thyme, rosemary, mint and marjoram and anise hyssop (and my apricots which are stewing as I write!). So it's not my nose. Maybe my garden's too dry. Anyway, thanks for the information, glad to see it's not just me & my garden, & glad I joined this site.

    Bookmark     July 7, 2013 at 12:28AM
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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

I agree with all the above. Often when I take cut roses to work I cannot smell much of the fragrance while I was in the car but once I take them out of the car the strong fragrance hit me in the face straight away. My roses here in hot dry climate smell their best in autumn. Spring is less good and summer is the worst. There are a few roses that continue to impress with their strong fragrance in hot dry summer though - Firefighter, New Zealand, Memorial Day, Felicia, Ebb Tide (in the morning) still manage to pump out lots of scent at 40 degrees C.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 8:01AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Thanks, Henry! I enjoy reading another society's newsletters and seeing how they're done. It's good information even if your in a different zone. Knowledge is always useful.

    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 6:35AM
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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

So gorgeous!! And her scent really is wonderful.

Mine is one of my favorite roses, and it's hard to choose, so that says a lot. I'm so happy to see her with buds already :) Last year the polar vortex during horrible winds nearly killed her, and she had to re-grow everything above ground! She got a few nice canes since then, but this year is when I'll get to enjoy the blooms again :)

She's probably hardier than I make her sound, too, y'all. Mine was grafted, not buried, and wasn't protected. This year I had her buried to go ownroot, and I did protect her base all winter. Her canes did great, and we dipped as cold as last winter :)

1 Like    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 7:33PM Thanked by James_Shaw_San Francisco Bay Area
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seil zone 6b MI

It's beautiful! Wish I could smell it too.

1 Like    Bookmark     April 24, 2015 at 6:30AM
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Prettypetals_GA_7-8

Wow! It's absolutely beautiful. I really really need to get Peace again. Sooooo beautiful!!! Judy

    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 8:33PM
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jkellydallas(8a)

I still don't think that is Peace. I could be wrong, but it looks very different from mine.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 10:55PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

I'm very impressed with 'Munstead Wood', but any dark red rose is going to get fried in hot sun to some extent. A dark red is a dark color that is going to absorb a lot of heat and dessicate--the nature of the beast. MW is darker than WS2K and Darcey Bussell.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 4:53PM
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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

If Red Eden (Eric Tabarly ®) isn't too tall, I love him. He's very shrubby, so keeping him a shrub is easy, at least where I am. But watch out if you are in one of those areas where balling is a big problem, because his petals are already slow to open. He's got a very globular, very double bloom form (that I love).

    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 7:59PM
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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

Memorial Day, Beverley, Frederic Mistral, Double Delight, Firefighter, Barbra Streisand, New Zealand, Evelyn, Sonia Rykiel, Ebb Tide (afternoon shade), Felicia (afternoon shade), Big Purple, Perfume Delight, Stainless Steel, Crimson Glory, Granada, Fragrant Cloud. These all grow superbly and are flower machines in my zone 10 garden with long hot and dry summer heat.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 7:37AM
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Sylvia Weiser Wendel

I'll second Granada, and throw in Gold Medal. GM seems to have more fragrance to my nose. Austin's Tamora (top photo) smells terrific, I think, and has done brilliantly here in hot'n'dry land (SoCal). That picture was taken during a spell of triple-digit days last year. Gold Medal's in the foreground of the bottom photo, Granada in back of it.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 7:45PM
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steve_gw

Yes, got to keep it but doubt it will make winter without a root system...
When its time to put to bed for winter, I'll take a photo and we'll see what happens....

    Bookmark     April 22, 2015 at 7:03PM
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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

Good luck!

    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 5:48PM
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Jerri Moore

Why do you have to freeze the seeds first and for how long can't i just plant them in the ground i am new to rose growing sorry lol

    Bookmark     April 22, 2015 at 3:47PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Jerri Moore, this is an old thread. You might want to start a brand new thread to get better answers.

Exposing seeds to cold is called stratification; some seeds need it, others don't. It simulates what the seed would experience in nature. I can't help you with more than that. Some people say rose seeds need stratification, some people don't. It might also depend on the type of rose.

Another thing to keep in mind is that seeds from a hybrid rose won't be the same as the parent. Because of the complex hybridization of roses, they do not "come true" from seed. Only species roses (those found naturally, that existed before humans started hybridizing) come true from seed.

1 Like    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 4:59PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

True hybrid teas like 'Savoy Hotel' are not very attractive plants to have straddling your sidewalk. 'Mother of Pearl' is bushier but would still give you the type of cutting roses that you want.

'Julia Child' would be fine. So, for that matter, would be 'Knock Out'. The size can be controlled to about 4' x 3' wide by pruning to 2' in spring. But maybe they are planted too close to the sidewalk, or you just don't like them.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 12:43PM
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summersrhythm_z6a

Check out the David Austin roses, they're hardy and very pretty, great for cuttings. I am in zone 6a, HT roses don't do well here.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 3:43PM
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James_Shaw_San Francisco Bay Area

Dynamite roses and photos, Sara Ann.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 7:36AM Thanked by sara_ann-z6bok
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Sunsprite is really bright! Both very Nice blooms!

    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 2:43PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I think my Reine des Violettes has the best scent in my garden. Wish it bloomed more. After that probably Golden Celebration.

    Bookmark     April 27, 2013 at 7:29PM
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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

best smelling pinks for me are:

Frederic Mistral

Memorial Day

Beverley

Sonia Rykiel

Perfume Delight

    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 7:29AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Oh my, they look lovely!

1 Like    Bookmark     April 22, 2015 at 3:18PM
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rosecanadian

That is a lovely spot!! The rustic wood and the strength and beauty of the roses looks fabulous!! Wow!!

Carol

1 Like    Bookmark     April 23, 2015 at 12:54AM
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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

Hmmm, I need more time to think about this question.

    Bookmark     April 22, 2015 at 6:55PM
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beaverfoot

I`d say Sharifa Asma, with Jude the Obscure 2nd.

    Bookmark     April 22, 2015 at 8:16PM
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seil zone 6b MI

If it's been warm, like 60 and above, for some time now where you are then yes, I'd say the one that hasn't leafed out is dead. Sorry. Even very good nurseries can have duds. I have a potted Peace, not even a bare root, I got from a very good local nursery that I think isn't going to make it either. It happens. Most places will replace plants that don't live within a year. If you can call them maybe they will replace it for you.

I like that Black & Blue salvia too!

    Bookmark     April 22, 2015 at 3:14PM
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ziyakr(6)

It's been a lovely spring here in western Missouri, I would have been pleased with one survival from this group so two is just a bonus. I hope your Peace recovers, the ones at the rose garden are beautiful. We got a Angel Face last year that I was convinced was dead earlier this spring. Pruned it back and gave it some time and now it is looking great. I'm still working on the patience that loving roses seems to require...

    Bookmark     April 22, 2015 at 4:38PM
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Please ID this rose, thanks (bloom is 3 1/2" across)
Posted by Gary(USDA ZONE = 9b SUNSET ZONE = 18 (Riverside, CA, USA)) April 21, 2015
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seil zone 6b MI

Gary, you might want to dig down below the soil around your mystery roses. A lot of times over the seasons the tags sink and get buried.

    Bookmark     April 22, 2015 at 3:20PM
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Gary(USDA ZONE = 9b SUNSET ZONE = 18 (Riverside, CA, USA))

I have 13 roses (which have been identified via tags or through this forum); 4 roses are overgrown by Dr. Huey suckers; and 7 roses don't have blooms yet.

    Bookmark     April 22, 2015 at 4:03PM
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