22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

Memorial Day, Beverley, Frederic Mistral, Double Delight, Firefighter, Barbra Streisand, New Zealand, Evelyn, Sonia Rykiel, Ebb Tide (afternoon shade), Felicia (afternoon shade), Big Purple, Perfume Delight, Stainless Steel, Crimson Glory, Granada, Fragrant Cloud. These all grow superbly and are flower machines in my zone 10 garden with long hot and dry summer heat.



I'll second Granada, and throw in Gold Medal. GM seems to have more fragrance to my nose. Austin's Tamora (top photo) smells terrific, I think, and has done brilliantly here in hot'n'dry land (SoCal). That picture was taken during a spell of triple-digit days last year. Gold Medal's in the foreground of the bottom photo, Granada in back of it.



Jerri Moore, this is an old thread. You might want to start a brand new thread to get better answers.
Exposing seeds to cold is called stratification; some seeds need it, others don't. It simulates what the seed would experience in nature. I can't help you with more than that. Some people say rose seeds need stratification, some people don't. It might also depend on the type of rose.
Another thing to keep in mind is that seeds from a hybrid rose won't be the same as the parent. Because of the complex hybridization of roses, they do not "come true" from seed. Only species roses (those found naturally, that existed before humans started hybridizing) come true from seed.

True hybrid teas like 'Savoy Hotel' are not very attractive plants to have straddling your sidewalk. 'Mother of Pearl' is bushier but would still give you the type of cutting roses that you want.
'Julia Child' would be fine. So, for that matter, would be 'Knock Out'. The size can be controlled to about 4' x 3' wide by pruning to 2' in spring. But maybe they are planted too close to the sidewalk, or you just don't like them.




If it's been warm, like 60 and above, for some time now where you are then yes, I'd say the one that hasn't leafed out is dead. Sorry. Even very good nurseries can have duds. I have a potted Peace, not even a bare root, I got from a very good local nursery that I think isn't going to make it either. It happens. Most places will replace plants that don't live within a year. If you can call them maybe they will replace it for you.
I like that Black & Blue salvia too!

It's been a lovely spring here in western Missouri, I would have been pleased with one survival from this group so two is just a bonus. I hope your Peace recovers, the ones at the rose garden are beautiful. We got a Angel Face last year that I was convinced was dead earlier this spring. Pruned it back and gave it some time and now it is looking great. I'm still working on the patience that loving roses seems to require...


I have purchased roses from both Chamblee and Antique Rose Emporium, and they both send great products, and like Seil mentioned, one season seems to catch them up. I planted the one gallon roses as soon as I received them and they did great!
Have fun!

At $12 each, I'd take 20 of them! :-) DA roses are selling $27-35 each around here. Just 1 year difference in size, no big deal. You will buy more than 10, I am just guessing. I hope you have enough room in your car. :-)

Hi. I live in zone 5 in the Selkirk Mountains of BC. Because I live in a valley with a very large lake, it may ameliorate our climate in general, nevertheless cold snaps here regularly get down to -17C and can last a week or two. Our average cold temperature in winter is about -3 C. I heap soil and/or peat moss up around it after the first frost. It is recommended to make a 12-inch high covering, but that is arduous if you have more than 2 or 3 roses and I soon found out it didn't need that much. As a matter of fact, one year I broke my leg and didn't cover it at all. It died back quite severely, but popped back better than the year before. This year I only did about 6 inches of dirt and topped it off with a heap of pine straw -- the dropped needles of a long-needled pine tree. I had no winter die back at all. Lots of people here grow HTs, but as I say, they are generally not long-lived in this climate. The Taboo (Barkarole) is about 10 years old (and failing), but with only 4-1/2 hours of sunlight a day it's amazing it has lasted this long. I have seen HTs in this area that have obviously been growing many years, though.

I have to second Dinglehopp3r's experience with Heirloom. Their plants always arrive so healthy that when I first ordered from another (wonderful) nursery I was shocked to see some dead wood that wasn't clipped off. The roses from the other nursery are still healthy and doing well, but when I received my order from Heirloom the difference in health was very obvious even to a inexperienced rose lover like me.
That said: is this the rose you're talking about? If so, then both Chamblee and Heirloom Roses have it. Both nurseries have an excellent reputation.






I'm very impressed with 'Munstead Wood', but any dark red rose is going to get fried in hot sun to some extent. A dark red is a dark color that is going to absorb a lot of heat and dessicate--the nature of the beast. MW is darker than WS2K and Darcey Bussell.
If Red Eden (Eric Tabarly ®) isn't too tall, I love him. He's very shrubby, so keeping him a shrub is easy, at least where I am. But watch out if you are in one of those areas where balling is a big problem, because his petals are already slow to open. He's got a very globular, very double bloom form (that I love).