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Marlorena(Z8-9 England)

I had Jasmina for 2 or 3 seasons and got rid of it. Thorny and coarse with not too many flowers and the bunches hang on the ends of the stems drooping. I thought I would like this one, but not for me. Sorry for the negatives. Very hardy as I could tell here, we had some bad winters at the time. Hope you like it a lot more.. I perhaps should have grown it through a small tree or large shrub, or somesuch... instead I had it on a fence...not the best place in my view...

    Bookmark   November 3, 2014 at 10:55AM
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kittymoonbeam

I'm in So CA by Disneyland so I can't comment on cold but I like my Jasmina very much. She grows in a Crepe Myrtle tree and the flowers hang down like lovely wisteria blooms. The little stems are thin at first but in a few years will get thicker. I just kept braiding them together until the shoots were thick enough to go straight up without flopping. She still wants to grow sideways sometimes. She has super catchy little hooks so wear old clothes gloves and goggles. I don't get any rebloom but maybe because I cant get up there to cut off the old flowers. This is probably most spectacular on a low fence where she can spread wide and you can remove the old blooms. I have her growing high because the flower clusters hang down and I like looking up into them.

In bloom this is one beautiful shrub/climber

    Bookmark   November 3, 2014 at 2:00PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Seil and KR - I'm sure I've had late growth like this, I've never noticed it to this extent before though. I recall a few times having a few blooms in late November and maybe early December. Kentucky Rose - Your frosty rose pictures were gorgeous. I think Saturday morning it got down to about 28. At least for the next week we're supposed to have highs in the 60's and lows probably in the mid 40's. We're supposed to have rain Monday evening into Tuesday. I have a few large buds that haven't opened yet, not many though. Souvenir de la Malmaison has several that I think will open in a few days. I can't wait to see what they look like this time of year.

    Bookmark   November 2, 2014 at 7:52PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I think roses continue to grow at 45 degrees and above...
Once temps drops below 45 degrees and are constant things will slow way down...

This post was edited by jim1961 on Sun, Nov 2, 14 at 20:26

    Bookmark   November 2, 2014 at 8:24PM
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seil zone 6b MI

The canes still look green. Try potting it up and see if it recovers. You'll need to keep it moist but not soggy and don't fertilize it until you see new leaves forming. In your cold zone it may not get any new growth now until next spring. Keep it very well protected for winter and see what happens.

    Bookmark   November 1, 2014 at 5:25PM
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xyzDaylilyDaddy

The white stuff looks like some sort of insect infestation causing a variety bark scale, which can be scrubbed off, and the winter should take care of it shortly. I'm new to roses, but I've seen it on other shrubs like crape myrtles and azaleas.

    Bookmark   November 2, 2014 at 12:01PM
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

I have plenty of roses with brown edges, Belinda's Dream being one of the worst affected, but most of them have it to some degree. The only answer is rain, and more rain.

Ingrid

    Bookmark   October 31, 2014 at 12:52AM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

You planted roses in the hottest part of the year if you planted them only 3 months ago. Three months ago was July 30th. They look toasted and no wonder. They are struggling to get going. They'll look better and grow better if we get some winter rains. The cooler weather will improve their looks greatly and you should see significant improvement by next April. That would be the time to start fertilizing.

Mulch. It keeps the soil cool, helps keep the soil moist, and as it breaks down adds nutrients to the soil.

    Bookmark   November 2, 2014 at 1:35AM
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zack_lau

I had some nice blooms open up--Gemini was almost at exhibition stage on Wednesday.

Typically, blooms are done by mid November. But, this year I have two dozen bushes in the front yard, where the microclimate is warmer--direct Southern exposure next to a busy road.

    Bookmark   October 31, 2014 at 9:13AM
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sara_ann-z6bok

It was supposed to get down to 24 degrees here last night, I think it only got down to 28, think the roses are okay now. I'll have a few blooms, but not many. My roses look like they are setting on the spring flush, they are loaded with lots of little buds. I believe the almost spring like temps, combined with the rainfall made them think it was spring, I hope they don't get confused when it's really spring. LOL!

    Bookmark   November 1, 2014 at 5:47PM
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Sylvia Weiser Wendel

Thanks, everybody, and glad you like them. Maybe the Great Pumpkin will actually send us some rain tonight, as predicted!

Sylvia

    Bookmark   October 31, 2014 at 1:20PM
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

Very lovely, Sylvia, and a great combination of pinks. You have my kind of taste!

Ingrid

    Bookmark   November 1, 2014 at 11:57AM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

My AD is horrible here. Pretty bloom but horrid plant, but I do not spray. If you do not spray either, there are other roses that should do better

    Bookmark   October 30, 2014 at 5:36PM
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buford(7 NE GA)

If it did well for you before, then I would try it. AD is not one of the monster Austins. Mine stays quite mannerly.

    Bookmark   November 1, 2014 at 8:23AM
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sam 4b Adirondacks

Thanks Henry

    Bookmark   October 25, 2014 at 7:46PM
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susan4952(5)

this was awesome. good advice for cold zoners

    Bookmark   October 31, 2014 at 10:01AM
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nastarana(5a)

DA catalogue has been ordered.

    Bookmark   October 30, 2014 at 9:30AM
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farmerduck

DA catalog is lethal, the ultimate rose porn. Put it down, and walk away slowly.... :)

    Bookmark   October 30, 2014 at 1:03PM
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gijoe50000(9b)

So yea it seems healthy enough again anyway. Winter is coming in Ireland now so I wouldn't expect any growth for the next few months.
I will feed it and keep the rootstock away and hopefully it will get stronger..
The other rootstock at the left, in the top image had already completely taken over.. there was nothing left of the graft..

    Bookmark   October 28, 2014 at 9:06PM
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Lala_E(GP, ZA (11))

That's wonderful! Congratulations on the successful reclaim. I wish you many beautiful red roses in the summer.

    Bookmark   October 29, 2014 at 1:46AM
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Deer sanctuaryNot my intention. My HT are safe.
Posted by deervssteve(9) October 17, 2014
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campv

Know Berkley well --just didn't realize there was such a deer population

    Bookmark   October 28, 2014 at 2:30PM
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deervssteve(9)

"The Friends of the Berkeley Rose Garden has been very active over the past decade in restoring key historical features and improving accessibility to the garden. Working in partnership with City gardeners, the Friends continue to play a key role in improvements to the garden. The construction of a new entry and overlook on Euclid Avenue sparked new interest in the park. In response to the growing depletion of roses by hungry deer, a perimeter fence was erected in the late 1990s."

    Bookmark   October 28, 2014 at 6:47PM
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Rosecandy VA, zone 7

We don't have a new house yet, otherwise I probably would directly transplant them.

That's good info about wind shake, thank you!

    Bookmark   October 28, 2014 at 12:44PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

the media is more important than the shape or form of the pot ...
IMHO ...

i would spend more time worrying or thinking about that ...

and i would insure it is lightweight enough .. that you can lift the pot ...

and its not the weight of one pot that is important... its the sum total of all of them ...

what starts as just a little heavy on a single pot.. can become back breaking over a large volume.. trust me on that ...

then there is the actual problem of moving them.. when you move ... even worse with thorny canes sticking out the top ...

and your pail might be hard to move.. if the plant is taller than the handle .... thats a lot of dead weight from ground level ....

think about all your variables.. not just one ...

ken

    Bookmark   October 28, 2014 at 12:50PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Good luck with your Queen Elizabeth. I used to have three of them, they did great for me.

    Bookmark   October 27, 2014 at 9:18PM
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boncrow66

I have 6 that I inherited when we bought our house over 10 ears ago and they were my first experience with roses. I have managed I keep them alive all these years and learned something along the way lol. Good rose and always has blooms but it can get some black spot.

    Bookmark   October 28, 2014 at 9:01AM
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aurorawa(8B)

This is not my photo, but this is what the Osiria Rose looks like, unedited.

Here is a link that might be useful: Osiria Rose

    Bookmark   October 27, 2014 at 6:56PM
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Lilyfinch z7 mid tn

This is so funny , I'm glad others were able to help you . I had seen a pic online of a koala bear dry and cute , then one of a koala "wet ", and horrifying looking.It really was convincing , to one who had never seen one in real life , wet or dry.
Well I made a total fool of myself at work , showing my pic to my boss who had many times caught me in the most rediculous situations of ditziness. As soon as he saw it , he said it was fake . One quick google search proved that , and now I don't believe anything anymore . Lesson learned ! Lol

    Bookmark   October 27, 2014 at 7:40PM
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anntn6b(z6b TN)

In agreement with lionheart on the color and the bush itself. I lost mine to hungry voles.

I guess that's what happens when you put a rose in really nice soil and let it grow. The predators move in. And they stay as long as there are roots to eat.

    Bookmark   October 27, 2014 at 12:26PM
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frances_in_nj(z6 NJ)

Thanks for the information, and Ann, sorry to hear that you lost yours to voles, they can be nasty. It sounds like I will love this rose! Any thoughts on whether it might be shade tolerant?

    Bookmark   October 27, 2014 at 7:07PM
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