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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Took more pics today as the experiment continues....
So far things going great for the roses with Marigolds!
I'm very happy as I can still report good results! And hardly any rose slug damage at all! :-)

    Bookmark   October 23, 2014 at 4:06PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Above in my last post I just updated results on Roses wth Marigolds.

This post has the dark side! Roses WITHOUT Marigolds which are the same type of rose bushes are getting slaughtered by rose slugs!
Leaves are being stipped off worse & worse each passing day!

Just now took these pics! You can see 3 Rose Slugs in the one pic..

    Bookmark   October 23, 2014 at 4:12PM
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ArbutusOmnedo 10/24

Ooo, Lady Sadie looks very intriguing, Beth. I don't know anything about it other than the picture now, but I'll keep my eye out for more info on it.

Jay

    Bookmark   October 22, 2014 at 5:59PM
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margaretmerrill(6 nev)

I just ordered Neil Diamond today from Edmunds. They did have me pay for it, but it won`t be shipped until next april. I am looking forward to growing it. It will be in a pink and white bed.

    Bookmark   October 22, 2014 at 9:16PM
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tare(zone5b)

Pat Austin has proved to be a big disappointment to me. I've had her 3 years now. She puts out a big first flush, then I get nothing out of her once it gets hot. And a few piddly blooms in the fall.

    Bookmark   August 4, 2011 at 3:02PM
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Mountie(6b)

tare,
I'm thinking about Mary Magdalene too. Did you buy some? Or did you decide on something else?

    Bookmark   October 22, 2014 at 1:21PM
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seil zone 6b MI

You can make collars yourself using either old flower pots or gallon milk jugs. For the flower pots just slit the side and cut out the bottom. On the milk jugs you need to cut the top and bottom off and then slit the side so you can get them around the plants.

    Bookmark   October 21, 2014 at 11:19PM
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seil zone 6b MI

In CT I'd wait until spring. You'll need to prune them then anyway and if you time the transplant right in the early spring they'll wake up in their new spots and never know they were moved. You want them to have as much canes with stored energy in them as possible coming out of winter.

    Bookmark   October 21, 2014 at 11:16PM
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catsrose(VA 6)

Thank you, Henry!!!

    Bookmark   October 21, 2014 at 7:53PM
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nastarana(5a)

A rose mentioned in the text, Persane, seems quite beautiful in its' one HMF photo. HMF lists no sellers for this yellow HT anywhere in the world. Does anyone here know more about Persane?

    Bookmark   October 21, 2014 at 7:21PM
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Prettypetals_GA_7-8

Forgot to mention a few roses I love that bloom great here in North Georgia. The Alnwick Rose, Carding Mill, Heaven on Earth, Gruss, Quietness and Cream Veranda. Those seem to be my favorite, at the moment, and they all have slowed down right now but bloom consistently all summer!!! Oh boy!! I'm soooo excited for you. Keep posting pics!! Judy

    Bookmark   October 21, 2014 at 3:02PM
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

Belinda's Dream can get quite tall, to 5 feet or more, so you'd have to be careful with placement. Bishop's Castle is a beautiful and fragrant Austin rose that does very well in the heat. It can spread but I keep mine trimmed short, to about 3 feet, and it still keeps on blooming. Carding Mill is another great hot-weather rose.

I agree with hoovb; you have so much room that a wide border of roses and other plants would be beautiful and have a lot of impact. I wouldn't have just roses. As beautiful as they are, they can become boring planted en masse without anything to lend contrast to their shapes and colors. Bolero and Julia Child are both very good roses, with a nice bushy shape and lots of bloom. Boxwood hedges are very attractive but can be labor-intensive with all the trimming to keep them tidy looking.

With all that room you might want to visit the Antique Roses Forum and find out about roses that can grow to 10 x 10 feet and more with time, depending on your climate. There are on-line nurseries, such as Roses Unlimited, that have wonderful choices of mostly antique roses that would look perfect with your style of house. Once you begin with roses it can quickly become an absorbing passion, especially with the fascinating older roses.

Ingrid

    Bookmark   October 21, 2014 at 4:38PM
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buford(7 NE GA)

A better bet for roses would be a consulting rosarian. Your local rose society will have names and contact info.

    Bookmark   October 21, 2014 at 10:07AM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

It may be different elsewhere, but in my general area many Consulting Rosarians are only really versed in modern roses.

Jeri

    Bookmark   October 21, 2014 at 11:55AM
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vmr423(Zone 8b, SC)

I know I will be getting roses from her at some point soon- how could I resist such great prices, selection and service? I don't have much of a budget for plants, but feel that it's important to try and support the small vendors while they're still here.

I worked for a good many years for several independent bookstores in several different cities... all gone now, as are too many of the Indies in this country... I know whereof I speak.

Virginia

    Bookmark   October 20, 2014 at 9:24PM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

I keep a list under the computer mat on my desk with a Burling list.

She has sent out nice plants, for much less and far faster than any of the other vendors I have bought from this fall. They might be smaller bands, but the bigger gallons from 2 vendors have not been that much better it would be worth buying from them. Except for them having something she does not carry.

    Bookmark   October 20, 2014 at 9:42PM
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sandandsun(9a FL)

And then there's also that pretty well kept secret ADR winner that didn't get an alluring name change when it came to the US.

In the creamy light yellow category:

Here is a link that might be useful: 'Karl Ploberger Rose'

    Bookmark   October 16, 2014 at 11:04AM
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SCMG

Just wondering-are you saying you do not use any fungicide at all? I kept my Julia Child blackspot free through summer last year because I used a systemic. However, this year I tried not using anything and got lots of blackspot by mid summer.
I am in SC, we have lots of heat, humidity and usually frequent rains.

    Bookmark   October 20, 2014 at 8:41PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

These smooth splits are pretty common on some varieties, and I think they are caused simply by the cane growing too fast. (Raggedy splits, on the other hand, are caused by cicadas laying eggs.) The rose has already healed the split. If the cane is supporting healthy top growth, I wouldn't do anything. It seems to be old enough to have a chance of surviving winter, but you'll have to wait and see next spring.

    Bookmark   October 20, 2014 at 8:59AM
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poppy_pa_6b

jerijen:I hadn't thought about Elmer's Glue, even though I use it when pruning, but I think that would be a good precaution to anything taking up residence there.

seil:Fingers crossed Eden does make it through the winter. It's in a protected location and prior to purchasing it I had read that others in my zone had success overwintering it year after year. We'll see : )

michaelg:I think I will take the wait and see approach since it is healthy. The Moo Poo Tea this summer may have spurred on the growth spurt. Maybe too much of a good thing. I'm learning.

Thanks All for your help. I appreciate it!

    Bookmark   October 20, 2014 at 3:17PM
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predfern(z5 Chicago)

Louise Odier does not repeat very well but the blooms smell nice. Brother Cadfael finally died after about 5 years. I got one good bloom from it the entire time.

    Bookmark   October 20, 2014 at 12:27AM
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ratdogheads(5b NH)

I didn't like Brother Cadfael and did not keep him. It was a modernish looking plant that didn't blend well with surrounding OGRs. The real killer though was balling. Not a single bloom ever opened. Not a good choice for a humid climate.

    Bookmark   October 20, 2014 at 5:26AM
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floridarosez9

In hot, humid central Florida, the roses on your list that have done well for me are: Belinda's Dream, Clotilde Soupert, Cl., Cecile Brunner, cl., Fields of the Wood, Mrs. BRC, SDLM, Cl., Sombreuil, and Don Juan. Mrs. Isaac Perriere and Abraham Darby were so so. Eden was terrible. The rest I have not tried.

    Bookmark   October 19, 2014 at 11:35AM
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LeBlossom(Viet Nam)

- thanks floridarsez9 for your feedback on the roses : )
- thanks ken-n, I'll try with fresh fish when potting up the roses. I think it's better than package fish emulsion. Also, I prefer organic gardening. And we ve got a lot of rice hulls here. You know a lot about my country, have you been to Ho Chi Minh, ken?

    Bookmark   October 20, 2014 at 2:51AM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

'Prospero' doesn't "nod."

It's a shorter, very upright rose. And unlike many of its larger Austin-bred cousins, it blooms continuously in my mild, coastal SOCAL climate. It's good in a vase, too, and for us is very disease-resistant.

Jeri

    Bookmark   October 19, 2014 at 4:34PM
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Sylvia Weiser Wendel

I bought 3 Tamoras last year and they are all thriving. I find the scent very attractive, but hard to describe in words. If you have Carding Mill, that has a similar scent.

    Bookmark   October 19, 2014 at 10:12PM
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