22,795 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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jasminerose4u, California 9b

Ha, ha, Bill. Glad you ended up liking it. Hope your obelisk turns out well and that you post pictures for us to see.

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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida 9a)

Mine is now 3 feet tall and started to put out a bud but one of the chickens (I think) bit it off grrrr. It is going gangbusters. It has been in the mid nineties F here and it hasn't even blinked. I think it likes it hot. I am planning to pair it with a Laguna rose that is about the same age and height (so far). I think I will need a really huge arbor lol.

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Devi Viswanathan

Many Thanks to both of you! I loved all the pics!

Cynthia, My god - you have such gorgeous colors there that I am searching for space in my garden for more than just one additional rose. I tend to be more attracted to the dark coral ones - Like the buck rose and the coral drift - will definitely look them up. I have 'vavoom' (floribunda) and 'bewitched' (hybrid tea) near the spot where i am looking to plant the new rose - so thinking that the color 'Sweet Fragrance' or 'Anna's Promise' might look similar - although they are absolutely beautiful! Here's my vavoom

Once again, thanks for the lovely pics and the time!

-Devi

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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

Happy to help, Devi, and glad you liked the pictures! We're always happy here to enable other gardeners to get more roses. Only ONE coral rose?? Bah - you need several, obviously (smile). Your Vavoom looks terrific, but I'm surprised that it's such a muted apricot color. It has a reputation for being a knock-your-socks off vivid orange, but that could vary with weather too. Regardless, it'll be nice to partner it with another vivid colored coral rose. These are not necessarily all floribundas that I mentioned - several are "shrubs" - but they bloom frequently and are disease resistant.
If you're worried about color clashes, you could always put a contrasting color between the roses. I have white/cream and burgundy as "filler" colors with my apricot roses, and I think apricot and lavender look nice together as well. Let us know if you need additional suggestions (who needs that grass, anyway - eh?)

Cynthia

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steve_gw

We rarely get rust here in SE WI, usually only during severe hot dry conditions, unless it came on potted plants that were shipped to our area from a distant location.

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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

I agree with Steve. It's unusual to get rust in our regions, unless you have a particularly susceptible rose. With nearly 1000 roses, I may have seen it once in 10 years. This has been an extraordinarily wet spring and early summer, so diseases that aren't typical can crop up from time to time. Just hang in there and wait for more typical temperatures to hit.

Cynthia

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view1ny NY 6-7

Best of luck. I hope that your daughter has a positive outcome and is back to being herself very soon.

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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

That's at least good news to know what it is, so that you can start to manage it. You've gotten some great feedback from other folks dealing with thyroid issues, so that's encouragement that it can be managed. Sympathies on the need to do so, but information is always better than the unknown.
We'll keep you both in our prayers.

Cynthia

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SoFL Rose z10

Dang. That sounds like so much fun. I'm sorry to hear they won't be having them anymore.

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summersrhythm_z6a

There are not many people growing roses in my neighborhood, people are getting so busy with work and other things......and getting cheap too since all other things in life cost so much (like health insurance). I had an older couple came up to me one day, they asked if I could give them some roses (plants) since I had so many. People just don't want to pay the market prices for roses, things are getting expensive...... I hope Wayside Gardens (JP) is doing OK. I love all the DA roses I ordered from Wayside Gardens (same company as JP) this year.

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nummykitchen(Z5B)

Thanks guys. We've been having these intense thunderstorms with downpours so much lately. We woke up to another one this morning after one last evening and a few last week! I just keep telling myself that all this rain is good for the roses in the long run but it's ruined a ton my my first blooms of the season before they even open up, guess I will have to wait til we get some new buds.

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vasue VA(7A Charlottesville)

Just for curiosity & to be on the safe side, might clip a discolored bloom into a ziploc for observation. Same weather here recently, also thought rain damage. Yet bagging showed thrips leaving trails inside the bag, which fogged up when brought into the cool house. Taken back into the sun & looking through a magnifying glass, could see hordes of thrips swarming in the bag. So - you never know until you actually check it out. (If bagging suspect buds &/or blooms from more than one plant, keep only one rose's flowers in each bag. If you mix them together, won't be able to tell which plant has the problem otherwise.)

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arlene_82 (zone 6 OH)

I agree, much more sun is probably what my Julia needs since that spot probably gets less than 6 hours per day. What looks like grass at the base is actually creeping phlox, which is rooted about a foot away and I cut it back each year, but it does like to grow back in her direction. It's also a raised bed which probably doesn't help either. I have a sunny spot reserved for her in front of the house, and I do believe she will moving this fall :)

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cleangeek(Zone 9)

Getting back to humidity: if you live in a humid area you still need to water, humidity doesn't effect the roots. Plants get most of their water from the roots.

Always use the finger test no matter where you live: stick your finger in the soil up to your knuckle, if it's dry then water. My grandparents were farmers(who lived in the humid Midwest) and taught me that trick when I was a child.

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Trisha Spare

Thank you all so much for this valuable information!!!

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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

No, chemical fertilizers don't cause blackspot. A weak plant can be more succeptible to an outbreak.

OK, thanks! I know a lot of rose growers in SE PA, from Chambersburg to Philly. The fungicide that Meredith_e provided is one that has been successful for many people. Make sure to get this specific product and not one of the combination (fungicide/insecticide/fertilizer) products. It is best to start early in the season, but the Bayer fungicide can help with stopping the progression of the blackspot infection, and help suppress future outbreaks.

seil's guidance on handling insects is spot on. Also the note on determining your tolerance for blackspot, and whether the plant defoliates (loses all of the leaves) or not.

Sorry if we seem like inquisitors, but the info was important for us, as what might be useful in SE PA might not be in NE CA. :-)

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Missy, Traverse City, Mi Z5

Thanks for the info, everyone. . Seil, I had not sprayed them with anything until now. I sprayed for Mildew today, hope it solves the problem.

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jasminerose4u, California 9b

Looks like you have a Hoverfly (scroll up) in your photo, also known as Allograpta obliqua. The larvae eat aphids and thrips. The adults are important pollinators.

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seil zone 6b MI

That plant is not getting enough water or nutrients. It looks like there's been some kind of root damage. Do you have moles or voles or anything the burrows and eats roots in your area?

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Jasmyne Fisher

Thanks jim1961. I'm in Virginia, zone 7a!Roses are beautiful, I really like the Double Red! I'm a very visual person so that helped! I guess I noticed it so much as it just really started blooming, now it's blooming so much it's going in waves and starting to look better.

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Jasmyne Fisher, your rose bush is young yet it should bloom even better/more with age...

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seil zone 6b MI

Heat will make them open quicker than usual. Cool slows them down. That's why exhibitors refrigerate their roses to keep them from opening too soon. I've had some of that off and on too. One day it's 85 and the next it's 65. On the 65 day they sit. On the 85 day they blow open fast. High humidity will also cause some thin petaled roses to stick together and not open. It's called balling. I get rid of those around here because my humidity is always high.

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rosecanadian

professorroush - I really enjoyed your garden musings!! Thank you very much for the link!

Carol

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professorroush(6A)

My pleasure. I hope you enjoy the info and the writing!

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densiemill

Agre this is one lovely rose. Such a distinct pink

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parker25mv

The pink almost looks fluorescent, similar to Electron.

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dan8_gw (Northern California Zone 9A)

Why is Mister Lincoln so intensely fragrant this morning? Sometimes the scent can be really faint but this morning it's really powerful. What are usually the conditions that make the fragrance more powerful? I haven't been able to find a trend.

It's been so hot and dry here lately that the flowers are burnt up.

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Lovely HT roses, Growing rose without BS now that would be nice. Hope rust never shows up here.

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