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seil zone 6b MI

Since you want to put them in the ground now is the time to do. You want them to grow those new roots into the soil where they are going to live, not in a pot you're going to take them out of. Besides, those pots they're in are way too small and will be full too soon.

Water the roses very well the night before you want to plant them. When you transplant them dig your holes first and prep them and water them. Then try and just slip the existing root balls out of the pots and into the new holes. Back fill about half way and then water. Fill the rest of the way and water again. Keep them moist but not drowning until they start to get new growth and then fertilize at half strength.

    Bookmark     April 17, 2015 at 4:36PM
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bryanlihp

Thank you all guys! I have transplanted 3 of them to the ground. Will do the other one (strawberry hill) in a really big container-I would say about the same size as a half whiskey barrel. Hope they will grow well!

    Bookmark     April 18, 2015 at 11:15PM
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Reine des ViolettesI like the smoky color but rose bush very small in my yard.
Posted by James_Shaw_San Francisco Bay Area April 18, 2015
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James_Shaw_San Francisco Bay Area

Thank you Seil.

    Bookmark     April 18, 2015 at 5:56PM
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

This sounds like an excellent cool weather rose. I took mine out in spite of the fact that it grew really well and quickly because the blooms, few as they are in the heat, fry within five minutes. Planting the right rose for your garden is at least half the battle.

1 Like    Bookmark     April 18, 2015 at 6:17PM
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irisgal_z9

I only have it with Abraham Darby and Gemini. Both are "newer" in my garden. 10 years instead of 20. Different sources for each. So I can't pinpoint why these two.

I remember reading years ago, in Sunset, to plant with the graft well above the soil line > in mild winter climates only. This was thought to discourage suckers. I have usually followed that practice.

In a previous garden I did as Seil says. Rip, don't cut! And it worked great. Don't wait another minute Sara_Ann. Remove a shovelful of soil so you can see the base of the Huey sucker and pull it down, out and away.

PS. 'reverting' would be used for another behavior.

    Bookmark     April 18, 2015 at 5:19PM
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zack_lau z6 CT

I've only had it happen once, with Burning Desire, a J&P HT that wasn't very popular. I ripped off the sucker and never had the problem again.

Puttng the graft below the soil line usually hasn't been a problem, except once when the plant was completely buried and decided it wasn't going to leaf out. Fortunately I remembered where it was and replanted it--it is doing fine now.

    Bookmark     April 18, 2015 at 6:17PM
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What variety is this rose? (The blooms are about 3" across)
Posted by Gary(USDA ZONE = 9b SUNSET ZONE = 18 (Riverside, CA, USA)) April 18, 2015
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seil zone 6b MI

Yeah, I thought Playboy right away too.

    Bookmark     April 18, 2015 at 4:14PM
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Gary(USDA ZONE = 9b SUNSET ZONE = 18 (Riverside, CA, USA))

I knew I had one Playboy (because it still has its tag); it's nice to have another one

    Bookmark     April 18, 2015 at 4:28PM
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Holly Kline

Thanks!

    Bookmark     April 18, 2015 at 10:00AM
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seil zone 6b MI

You'd be better off just feeding them some good organics for the soil. Healthy soil makes for healthy roses.

    Bookmark     April 18, 2015 at 4:15PM
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Please identify this rose (each bloom is 2" across)
Posted by Gary(USDA ZONE = 9b SUNSET ZONE = 18 (Riverside, CA, USA)) April 17, 2015
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ksgreenman(6a)

Here in the fair city of Lawrence, KS, I would say that Dr. Huey is the second most common rose to be found, and second only because of the large numbers of Knockout roses planted around various parking lots. And yet, of course, no one ever actually bought a rose labeled Dr. Huey. Why people persist in selling roses grafted onto this monster is beyond me. This is why I am such a fanatic about own-root roses.

    Bookmark     April 18, 2015 at 3:46PM
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seil zone 6b MI

You have to follow the canes down and dig down to where they originate at the roots. Do not just cut them off. That only seems to encourage the Doctor to grow more. You want to rip off the canes at the roots so that you cause some cell damage and the canes will not grow back...at that point anyway.

Doctor Huey was chosen as a root stock for precisely this reason. It's VERY VIGOROUS! With it's strong desire to grow it pushes other varieties that are grafted to it to grow that much faster. Rose producers can get bigger plants to market faster and make more money. The less time and money a grower has to spend raising plants for sale the more they can make on them. Simple as that.

Up here in the North Country we don't have as much problem with DH showing up. I only have him come up when I've neglected to take out an already dead grafted rose. Even then it's pretty rare because it's usually because the whole thing, roots and all, froze to death over winter.

    Bookmark     April 18, 2015 at 4:04PM
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Another rose to be ID'd (The large bloom is about 2 3/4" across)
Posted by Gary(USDA ZONE = 9b SUNSET ZONE = 18 (Riverside, CA, USA)) April 18, 2015
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jazzmom516(Zone 7 LI, NY)

I have a few David Austin roses; someone recommended Queen of Sweden and I agree its Blackspot resistant. I have in my yard growing Tamora, a small apricot colored rose; Molineux, a lovely medium height golden yellow rose (my favorite) and Alnwick Castle, now renamed The Alnwick Rose, a medium pink rose with medium height. and finally Pat Austin a medium height orange/coppery colored rose. Most of the DA roses in the US are not BS resistant so buyer beware.
If I had to add roses again to my garden I would chose Kordes roses because many are BS resistant.

    Bookmark     April 17, 2015 at 8:26PM
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Sow_what? Southern California Inland

gibsongirl74_gw, thanks so much for liking our facebook page! I've observed Queen of Sweden and Tamora for several years in clients' gardens. Queen of Sweden has exceptionally beautiful blooms that are held upright on a 4 - 5' shrub, and Tamora remains a small shrub with plenty of pretty apricot/pink blooms. Both have remained healthy in our mild winter/hot, dry summer climate. We have several other Austins not on your list at Humpty Dumpty House, and they are among our most beautiful and best performing roses. Lots of pictures and detailed evaluations are on our Facebook - please visit. Your simple act of "liking" our facebook page can help us get our gardens reopened. Here's the link to our Facebook:

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    Bookmark     April 18, 2015 at 8:49AM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I noticed today while driving that everyones forsythia are in bloom here...But a lot of roses around just have the small swollen leaf buds so far... Ours are a bit more advanced than what I seen today...

Most people around here buy a rose stick it in the ground and forget about it... I seen so much dead wood last year sticking out of peoples roses I wanted to run into their yard and prune the poor things...lol

    Bookmark     April 17, 2015 at 5:40PM
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stir_fryi

I live in the Detroit area and did mine yesterday. I was shocked to find leaf buds on them! So much for lopping them down nice and even...

    Bookmark     April 18, 2015 at 8:18AM
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bethnorcal9

It happens occasionally, but I wouldn't say it's a normal characteristic. I have an own root rose I got from Heirloom about 12-15yrs ago called WONDERSTRIPE. It has at least 4 separate plants all in a big cluster. I really should remove some of them. I also have an own root STOKES I got from Roses Unlimited over 20yrs ago, and it shot up a second plant almost a foot away. Good thing tho, because the original plant died.

    Bookmark     April 18, 2015 at 6:18AM
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bayarea_girl(NorCA 9)

Beautiful garden. Thank you for sharing.

    Bookmark     April 17, 2015 at 8:41PM
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huckdog1

Such beauty! You have worked hard and they are lovely.

    Bookmark     April 18, 2015 at 5:10AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Gosh, a plant in my neighborhood, also from Heirloom, grew about 30' wide in that period of time. Is yours getting winter damage?

    Bookmark     April 17, 2015 at 12:21PM
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comtessedelacouche (10b S.Australia: hotdryMedclimate)

Can you tell us something about your climate - zone and general location, plus what sort of spot it's in in your garden (sunny, hot/shady, cool/ near a brick wall, etc)?

:¬)

    Bookmark     April 18, 2015 at 3:42AM
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Please identify this rose
Posted by Gary(USDA ZONE = 9b SUNSET ZONE = 18 (Riverside, CA, USA)) April 16, 2015
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Gary(USDA ZONE = 9b SUNSET ZONE = 18 (Riverside, CA, USA))

Gotcha! Will do.

    Bookmark     April 17, 2015 at 4:22PM
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Gary(USDA ZONE = 9b SUNSET ZONE = 18 (Riverside, CA, USA))

Thanks, muchly to all !

    Bookmark     April 17, 2015 at 9:53PM
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