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Thanks all!! I can't wait to order mine! I have been talking to some people in my area. A rosarian? from the Milwaukee Rose Society & he lives about a half hour east of me & says the CdeC does well for him. But then I am a novice to rose growing, so who knows. I am checking out the Young Lycidas too. I have much interest in fragrant repeat blooming roses. :)


mad_gallica and SouthCountryGuy, Ah ha! Okay, so that isn't a bud union I'm looking at after all. Thanks for clearing that up.
The soil line probably was higher at one point. The rose is in a raised bed, but the back of it is just a cedar fence. I also cut away some creeping phlox from the base of the rose this spring.
If the graft is reasonably buried already, I'm not going to worry about it. Maybe just the layer of winter mulch then.
Thanks to everyone for your time and help!

Just to clarify a point you raised, no, a Julia cane will not switch to a Dr. Huey cane. Julia canes are any cane growing at or above the graft. Any cane growing under the graft will be the rootstock, which is most likely Dr. Huey.
What could happen is that the rose suffers through another brutal winter and by next winter it has partly died back and rootstock (from under the graft) has started growing. However, given that your poor rose suffered through a brutal winter this past year, we'll hope that doesn't happen again to your roses. At least, I don't want it happening to a couple of my roses that have limped through this season as a result of last winter's brutal cold. Don't think my poor babies would make it! : (
Kate

Roses (except wild species roses) do not come true from seed. I doubt that the Green Rose even sets seed (roseseek will know). If it does, the resulting seeds will not produce more Green Roses. If you want to grow roses from seed, read online as to how it is done and gather some ripe hips from 'Knock Out' roses in your neighborhood.

Hi Michael, no, the Green Rose (Viridiflora) sets no seeds nor does it have pollen. It is completely sterile as all flower parts have been changed to leaf parts. Anyone considering importing (bringing any plant material in from outside the Continental US borders) plants or plant materials of ANY kind, requires an import permit. If the seeds originate outside our borders and they happen to make it through to you, it's doubtful they are even rose seeds. Several people have complained of receiving radish seeds. Even if they are rose seeds, they won't look like what you think they should. Very few of the ads for those types of rose seeds even depict REAL roses which haven't been highly Photos Shopped. If you want to raise some from seed, follow Michael's advice and go pick your own. At least you will know they are rose seeds and they won't require an import permit. Kim


Hello Sammy,
So good to see you again!!
My husband, Markku has picked up my Rose torch for me! : ^ ) Now, he buys me roses as gifts, plants the roses,, waters them and even will feed, dead-head and prune when needed. I am so lucky I have him!!!
My health hasn't improved but I do love gardening especially my roses!!
I have become very fond of my fruit trees, who wouldn't love a delicious tangerine?? : ^ ) But at this new house the plant that amazes me is the Wisteria growing out front,its just Wow!! What a nice addition to my life and garden.
Old friends stick around, new friends I look forward to calling you old friends one day!
Carlota

I'm on Facebook, but I don't have any family or friends who are into growing roses, or gardening for that matter. Folks are always posting selfies, food selfies, pet selfies, but not pics of their gardens. They just aren't into it. I LOVE gardening. It's my passion. I come over to the Rose Forum and a bunch of other garden forums because I can get advice, give advice, discover new roses varieties that work for my Zone 5 garden and learn about new rose nurseries to check out. It would be great to have my folks on the forum, but FB, Twitter and all of the other social media outlets are luring them away. That's ok. I'll stay on. P.S. I love to see pics of everyone's roses and gardens, especially during Winter. It's cold and cloudy here in Chicago. Could use some pics today. :-)

She's a beauty, isn't she!
Jubilee Celebration

I love her blooms, but in my garden, she has been a bit of a disappointment. The good news is that there are a couple other posters on this forum who claim she does well for them, so hopefully you will hear from them also.
In the meantime, here is my less than glowing report about JC which I've had for about 7 years in my garden:
From the beginning she was something of a wimp--no vigor, not really unhealthy, but kind of a weakling, no strong growth, too "delicate" appearing. She just never has really taken off and I often think she needs an extra shot of vitamins or something. About her third or fourth year, I tried doctoring her with everything I could think of--she got somewhat better--a bit more vigorous and greener and more fulsome looking, but not a lot. That was the best she ever did, though she began looking more "permanent" after her fifth year.
I don't think she ever got over 2.5 x 2.5. Quite a bit smaller than Austin lists in his catalog.
She has never burst into lots of blooms, but typically produces 3-10 blooms, occasionally more during the spring bloom. She does have a fairly good re-bloom rate, so there are often at least a few blooms on her bush most of the time. And the blooms are beautiful!
Unfortunately, the blooms are not long-lasting. If it rains, they will collapse rather quickly. In the burning hot sun, the edges burn. If you can, definitely place her where she gets some protection from the hot afternoon sun.
Oh yes--she does have a bit of the droopy neck syndrome that a number of Austins feature. Lovely droop--but sometimes I have to get down really low to take a decent picture of her blooms.
She is not a disease-magnet, but she often suffers from a low-grade BS infection. I spray her a couple times in the spring and one or two times in the fall, and she gets by with that, but she never looks completely clean if you get up close and look at her closely.
Is she a keeper? Well, I've been keeping her for quite some time now and have no intention of getting rid of her--but she is a disappointment in some respects.
But her blooms are beautiful--lovely pink/peach/salmon shades with yellow at the base! And her re-bloom rate is good. Her two best features.
Actually I love her--but still want to put an extra sweater on her when she goes out to play--just in case.
Kate


If you are saying you are in USDA 4 you should start by looking at which ones will actually survive the winters there and then proceed with your selection process from that point. As the choice will be very much smaller than in warmer climates you may have to sacrifice one of more of the desired attributes in order to have climbing roses at all.

I second the recommendation of Granada. It's still in its first year here, but it's very healthy, blooms frequently, and is magnificent at any stage. Granada can be any combination of colors from yellow to magenta, but it is never boring. Here's an example from June 1.
I'd also vote for Chihuly, a floribunda. Striped, anything from coral to deep pink and white. Very fast growing, and large for a floribunda.
I grow the "loud" roses in the front, where their colors stand out against my pale yellow house, and Austins/teas/OGRs in the back, where subtlety is the key.
They're all beautiful as far as I'm concerned.



Thanks Ingrid, although the layout looks formal, I'm just using it as a guide. And the spot isn't that big, about 25 feet, so I'm sure after a few years, it will be filled with plants and the lines won't be that visible. I also tried to think of the colors in the original design, that's why I have a yellow rose in the middle.
Right now it's just a bunch of overgrown junipers (in the back of this picture) so this will be an improvement.


I'd use iris or daylilly clumps (or dianthus and lillies) where you have the forsythia, and I'd do the small false cypress for the evergreens. They'll get bigger than they list where you are, I bet. I use one called snow (or snow-something) that is perfect with my roses :) It's white variegated, to go with my silvers.
The upright sedums make nice low borders for most of the year (I use the white variegated). Not winter, though. If thyme grows well for you, an upright version might do great. I can't ever grow it or lavender for more than a season or two, though. Too humid, maybe? Meh, I use dianthus (Williams, I think) a lot for short little borders, and they don't spread too quickly and bloom all the time, so I don't mind that they aren't so great in winter. There are some low grasses that look good in winter. Caryopteris is evergreen enough here, but it gets so big that that didn't work there (ditto rosemary).
Oh! The 'snow-something' little 'cedars' I have and love turn too brown in winter for my tastes. So make sure to get an evergreen that changes to a nice winter color or keeps its usual color. People always ask if mine got frosted out :( It isn't till spring that they turn so pretty again.
Such fun! Good luck, y'all!

It looks like some weed tree I have in my yard in the land of poison ivy here, but I always have my local PI to compare it to, lol. My PI isn't as serrated. It's definitely not hairy here when young.
The PI has brighter colors this time of year, too, so it's easier to tell apart now.
I wasn't allergic my whole life, but one day of pulling it up by its roots changed all that! Be careful that all y'all don't give yourselves the allergy like I did :) I got a hideous case from that day, too, so it was miserable.

Sure looks like poison ivy as I know it. I see it often, and if it's near a plant I want to keep, I just put a few drops of round-up on the leaves. I had to get medical help once after pulling up roots I did not recognize. I also had a colleague who spent 3 days in intensive care before they got it under control. I does not always vine, and it looks different depending on the time of year, I mostly find it on the ground hiding under other plants.
Here is a link that might be useful: CDC Poison Ivy




I saw Aschermittwoch (aka Ash Wednesday) growing at Eurodesert in 2011. The flowers appeared quite grey to me, very unusual. It's a climber. My mother used to grow the hybrid tea Blue Girl. Its flowers were a silvery lavender. As best I recall it was fairly healthy in this area (and was grown near our horses and thus never got sprayed like many of my mother's other roses), but I don't know how it would fare elsewhere.
The plan you have for your cat sounds lovely. I do similar things when a much-loved pet dies. When my little dog Scarlet died, I planted Scarlet Moss and Rosa canina Laxa (the dog rose) on her grave. I lost my beloved Kuvasz Magda in February and redid a whole section of the yard in her favorite colors and dedicated it to her.
Melissa
Here is a link that might be useful: Aschermittwoch
I'm so sorry for your loss. I don't have any suggestions but I hope you find a rose to dedicate to Murphy.