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Hi Beth --Your Wild Blue Yonder is beautiful! Is it in full sun or do you think it can take some afternoon shade? I've heard WBY's color can vary depending on sun exposure.

Mine's in blazing hot full sun!

The canes above the knot look fine. The shoot coming up from the soil next to the plant is probably root stock. I would dig down to where it is connected to the roots and tear it off. I can see three green canes, not one. I think the rose should be fine once you get that sucker out of there.

You could dig out that root stock sucker and plant it if you wanted to. It would take it a few years to mature before it would be big enough to graft another rose on to it.

Thank you all so much. This was a rose that my Mom got from the White House when she worked for the Justice Department. It is the most beautiful and fragrant rose ever. My Mom, Rose, recently passed away and I am just beside myself that I may lose her prized rose as well.

Thanks again all.

Henry,

Do you recall hyperthorniness with any other diseases?

Ann

Ann, at first I did not understand the significance of your question about excessive thorns.

As you have stated in your e-book: "Hyper thorniness is not a dependable indication of RRD"

I have a copy of the full Chinese paper. In it they state: "WRLRD differs from RRD in the following ways: first, the witches’ broom symptom consists of the proliferation of only small leaves along the canes, instead of both leaves and twigs at the ends of canes; second, the leaves are not distorted and twisted; third, the thorns are not red-tinged or produced in excess."

Thus it appears that the Chinese closterovirus possibility (for the Damask rose infection) can be removed if the claim of excessive thorns in the damask rose is accurate. However, when I look at the picture that they (the damask investigators) provide, I do not see the clear indication of excessive thorns that I have seen in some rose rosette virus pictures. I suggest that we wait for the results of the definitive PCR test before concluding whether the middle East is or is not to be added to the known locations of rose rosette virus. I

Summer, yea I live a few hours away. I have not been to Palatine either. I have yet to order from them too. I rather see the plant in person in general before buying. But I know what you mean. I talk about roses and garden and rave about them at work and my friends, that I am sure they are tired hearing it...lol.

The 3 must-have classic rose varieties are, in my opinion, Mister Lincoln, Sunsprite, and Sterling Silver. I could live with just these three.

My Elle did exactly what Seil's did. Just this morning I was marveling at the pretty bloom and this afternoon the same bloom is wilted and fried looking. I am in hot and humid Alabama. It is a new plant for me, so I am hoping next year it will get stronger. It bloomed beautifully in the spring, but it does not bloom prolifically at all. But again, it is very young.

I'm not impressed with Tiffany as a flower, but as a plant it's definitely a survivor. Elle is gorgeous, but as a plant she's similar to Peace, which for me has always been a piece of...

Intrigue is a beautiful shade of dark purple with intense fragrance, and fairy winter hardy, too. Mine stays about 3X3.
The bugs really like its flowers.

My favorite is definitely Sterling Silver. I realize it is not considered the most prolific bloomer, and there are many other purple roses that are more vigorous, but I still prefer it over other purple varieties such as Sweetness, Lagerfeld, Neptune, or Blue Girl.

First, the blooms of an established Sterling Silver rose bush are perfectly shaped and very full. Second, the color; it is among the most bluish-lavender hues of any rose variety, and the color is completely uniform and not the slightest bit splotchy. It is not the deepest shade of color, and could be described as slightly greyish, but that is why it is called "Sterling Silver". Lastly, the fragrance is probably the best of any rose I have smelled. The fragrance is like lemon with damask. But unlike certain other rose varieties, the "lemon scent" is not the type that smells like lemon disinfectant, and the damask-like aspect of the fragrance is very soft, it's not like other roses that have a very sharp smell like alcohol in a bottle of perfume.

Of course, what I like about the shape, color, and fragrance are entirely a matter of personal preference. But in my opinion, Sterling Silver is the perfect rose variety, so long as you can be patient and appreciate the blooms when they come.

Roses can get botrytis big time.

Thanks for the photo. This definitely looks like something weather related and not a function of your care or any particular disease. Botyris can crop up in humid weather but usually if those roses haven't done this routinely, they'll pull back to their usual blooms as the weather changes.

Cynthia

Beautiful photos, Cynthia. Can you tell us where you found your rose arch? I am looking for something to train the purple climber on that I just received from Brecks.

Hi Donna
Glad you like these! I have two of these trellises bookended at the front of my house, as well as one in the back yard, and my husband helped me stabilize them so they stay more or less close to the house and upright. The two in front were from a local Ace Hardware store that had these in mid-season for a ridiculously low price, so I bought out the two they had. I think the one in back was from Big Lots, and it caused more problems at first being somewhat flimsier metal. I think you could check around at various Lowes, or Home Depot, or other big box stores to see what they have, as well as online sites where you can order things.

Cynthia

Wouldn't Huey be blooming on short laterals along the canes rather than at tips?

allencla - does it re-bloom, or not? If it re-blooms, it is not Dr. Huey.

Jackie

Yes Melodye, welcome! We have been bitten bad by the rose bug. At least I know I am severely addicted and can't resist its lure. It does not help either when you visit the rose gallery and drool over roses so beautiful that you tell yourself you can't live without. When the sales come about, all your resolutions just go out the window. Your mind says no but your fingers keep on working those rose orders. Before you know it, several boxes of roses show up on your doorstep.

Cindi.....I forgot to respond to your question. The nursery is Covington's in Rowlett. They are out of the $10 roses but have about 75 at $14.88. Well make that 73 because I bought two last night. Those will stay on sale until they are gone. The attendant said they may add more to it from their #1 roses as it gets hotter. Right now they have about 200 #1 roses at $29. The roses at $14.88 were delivered as #1 but the nursery takes out anything not up to their #1 standard and puts them in the half price greenhouse. I've only ever purchased from their half price selection and they are beautiful bushes and take off and grow just fine.

They also have all kinds of annuals and shrubs and perennials in their half price greenhouse. That is where I get everything I buy from them. Still way better than what Home Depot or Lowes offers.

I'm in Florida 8b. We landscape with roses and we have seen die back with knockouts but it is not that common. It could be a root problem, but must likely not nematodes, usually KO s on their own roots do well around here and we have high nematode count in most of our soil. There are many pathogens that will destroy roots and usually are caused by poorly drained soil. We also get stem borers that hollow out a stem, and cause wilting and die back. Galls can also cause die back, those you can see close to the base of the plant.

thx as usual for the suggestions. all kos are own root, my property is on a slow slope and has no drainage problems, will look at the base of the plant and also plan to dig up the dead rose and take a look at the roots. will update then.

Hi Mustbnuts, I will create a new thread for you about roses that do well for me in my hot and dry climate instead of diverting from Ingrid's topic.

...I hope Ingrid shows us some more photos of her garden soon, as I have become accustomed to a regular 'fix'..... roses or no roses, I just enjoy the bushes, trees and vistas.... it's all so very different from what I'm used to...

...this goes for everyone else's gardens too I think... it's not always about the roses for me....town, city, country....landscapes... always fun to look from so far away...

Absolutely beautiful! You will love PAK. She is one fabulous rose. Your Lady Of Shalott looks beautiful and a bit pinker than the one I have. My is bright orange. I hope she tempers her orange color a bit or she may have to leave my yard.

Thanks vey much mustbnuts so enjoyed your bird tale. So many of my roses are purchased with JBs considered. Can't help but sneak a few beauties in there thou even if I'll not see a flower for more than half of our growing season.

Anyone know of a source for R. virginiana? Or wants to trade hips?

I'm responding to a very old thread, I realize. I have R. virginiana. I don't have the space for much of it and thus will be pulling out some.

In the autumn the hips are a lovely orange color. The autumn foliage (IIRC) is a mahogany then yellow. It suckers and I've spotted this rose planted as an I pruned colorful roadside "fence" on a country property. I think it's best to have ample space for this once-blooming rose to naturalize. Not a rose for a small garden, IMO.