22,152 Garden Web Discussions | Roses
I'm finding it fascinating to see the pics of the landscape surrounding our various gardens. I think I'll go take some of my surroundings this afternoon.
I would be hardpressed to pick my favorite garden out of all those posted. They are all so lovely.
Then, the good news is that there are a whole wonderful bunch of Eastern Seaboard Rosarians to give you the best advice in the world.
Heck, Maryland was Ethelyn Emory Keays "stomping ground." She grew and researched the best of them. Look for her book "OLD ROSES" and be inspired.
I cringe when I hear someone has planted ZD. I did that once, it was the rose that ate Dodge City.I once cut 50 canes out of her just so I could get down a garden path. My husband finally wrapped a log chain around her and pulled out with a tractor.
Oh dear, Flowergirl, what a monster! At least it's not thorny, though, like some of those big'uns, so it won't actually kill you if you dare to defy its will! Someone on here or the ARF has/had a monster one like that (your ZD). Fortunately I think it was growing somewhere where it could pretty much do its thing. Was that Zephyrose/Florence? I seem to remember it on a slope(?) at the back of a building/house, in semi-shade.
I think Kathleen Harrop (one of her sports), generally stays more mannerly - similarly lovely blooms but in shell pink, and similarly perfumed.
Comtesse :¬)
HOLY SMOKES that is huge!!! And so pretty. Is that actually one plant?? the one I saw here locally must have been a young one, I think....nowhere near that size, just a lush pretty clump resting on a picket fence. And here I was thinking my 18 foot long by 6 ft tall trellis that I have envisioned situated on about a six foot wide strip of land would be adequate over time.....maybe not! I wonder if pruning would have to be a weekly event to keep that sucker in check just to keep it narrow enough not to encroach on my neighbor's property. I also have to wonder what the root system is like...will it eventually pick up the driveway and hurl it into the street?
JJpeace, your neighbor sounds worse than mine!
Tess of the d'Ubervilles has been a great climber for me. Lady Banksia, though a once bloomer, has an impressive set of leaves that would help screen a view. Westerland is a good grower for me, as is Aloha. Or you might consider a fast growing vine that will cover quickly - in my area a good one is star jasmine, its everygreen, blooms yearly with a divine fragrance, and you could plant shrub roses in front of it. In no time, it would cover a trellis. A good material for a trellis is cattle panel nailed onto square 4x4's. Screening that view would be a top priority for me.
Judith
'Bolero' should do very well for you. It is beautiful, very fragrant, and has a low, spreading habit. I would recommend 'Munstead Wood' for the red except it is extremely thorny. It is bushy, not tall, with gorgeous fragrant crimson-purple flowers.
I have seen Valentine for years at Chamblees and finally bought one this spring. Its still in its gallon pot but is out-blooming everything. I would bet this would be a great rose for a pot - blooming constantly. It is a shrub type rose I think, which would look great in a pot.
Here's a link to a handout that was created by a number of cities in N. Texas as part of an education effort. Read the notes at the bottom closely about the decision to allow infected plants to go the recycle location. The mites can't live without a live host, nor can the virus.
http://ccmgatx.org/media/89696/RREC-Handout-from-Claude-Graves.pdf
What about this? Snip the infected roses into smaller bits over a garbage can to collect in there. Squirt some dishwashing detergent in there, then fill with water. This will drown any mites still living on the canes. If you leave it in there for a few days, things should start decomposing -- or at least softening. If you have a compost pile, the material should be safe at this point for adding to it -- the virus-transmitting mites won't feed on decaying rose canes, and any mites still on the rose canes will be dead, anyway. Cover the stuff well with whatever other material you add to the compost pile.
If you don't have a compost pile, and don't plan on starting one, then just leave the stuff to steep in the soapy water for as long as you can stand it -- it might get stinky after a while -- then pour out the water and send the solids off to wherever the yard waste ends up. Doing so should prevent spreading either the mites or the virus into their compost.
:-)
~Christopher
You need to determine if you are in a quarantine zone for something or not first. Then follow the rules form CDFA. Bare rooting your plants was the best way to bring things in according the CA officials I spoke to. In that case, dig them up, hose off all the dirt, wrap them in some damp paper for the ride and keep them wet and most of all follow the rules or they will kindly take them off your hands for you and destroy them.
Please research this and go in prepared. We lived in CA for six years. My husband lived in CA when we got married in 1998 and I was moving from Texas. No one warned me about CA laws and I stood beside my car in tears as some very unfeeling border agents destroyed 52 african violets I had lovingly grown for years.
I have Iceberg (own root) and really love it - in fact, it's one of only two roses I have that I consider to be without any discernible scent - the other 'scentless' rose is the climber 'Pierre de Ronsard' ( aka Eden). I'm about to get an own root Margaret Merril - another white floribunda that has a beautiful perfume, it also grows to about 5 feet tall and the flower shape is really delightful - it's sometimes tinged pale pink (which also happens to my Iceberg, too).
Maybe Margaret Merril might be worth considering? Here's a link to it on Help Me Find -
Margaret Merril floribunda rose
Cheers
Tricia
Very interesting article. As damp as we are we see very little downy mildew around here so the pictures were good to see. Early spring and late fall are our worst times for botrytis. Lots of rain, warm days, cool nights and...bingo, botrytis. Along with some other blights as well.
In regard to the concern that mixing whites will make other whites look "dirty" .. here is my thought. I was disappointed in the very first white that I planted. I cant even remember what it is bc it was so long ago and the label has since disintegrated. It has an offwhite pink tinge to it and I was looking for pure white. However, now that I have the white that I had been searching for (Sugar Moon), rather than take away from the garden it adds variety, and I am actually very happy with the result. The flowers on this rose is much smaller however grows in greater flourishes (oftentimes growing in clusters). SM is a taller rose usually with an elegant stem while this rose is more bushy with smaller leaves and flowers. I see the addition of PJP competing with SM more than this little guy.
I'm about 40 miles from you, less coastal influence. The only disease I get with PJPII is rust in the fall. An awful lot of roses rust in the fall here. It blooms heavily in several cycles over the season.
All this does not mean that Sugar Moon may not also be a fine rose. There is more than one excellent rose in each category. HTs are not my main focus and I only have a few. But PJPII is definitely my favorite white. YMMV, and that is as it should be.
Rosefolly
In England, roses are almost always sold budded. In marginal conditions, it makes a big, enormous, incredible difference. I don't bother with own-root Austins any more, and invariable, nice specimens posted here from the northeast are grafted.
Also, remember DA is the person who recommends his roses be grown in groups of three. Most people here consider that some sort of sick joke. I have always suspected there is some truth to it.
I am not expecting winterkill to be part of the issue.
Most roses including Austins are budded onto Dr. Huey rootstock. What I've seen in my acidic soils is that Dr. Huey doesn't like acidic soils, and (think about the alkalin playa lake beds they are produced in, in Wasco California) and read about Dr. Huey doing best in alkalin soils.
Then look at all the multilflora that grows in Rhode Island and Connecticut. That Mulitiflora loves acidid soils.
The failure to thrive may be as simple as being the wrong rootstock for the garden.
I agree with Patty with regard to Mr. Zimmerman's advice. I bury my roses and don't remove the mound in spring as we are traditionally taught to do. spring. I find it is less work and I loose less roses during harsh winter. But since you live in zone 7, I don't think hardiness is one of your concern.
When I first planted roses our winters seemed to be much milder and that was just 8 or 9 yrs ago. At that time I didn't try to bury my graft as it was all new to me and i've learned as I went plus all the great advice on here.
Christopher I was even tempted to go back to all mine that I didn't bury the graft underground and build up a raised bed more or less around each one to protect them so after reading your post I may just do that. My zone is milder than lots but I do still lose canes and roses due to excessive cold and it makes me mad. lol
Thanks again everyone!