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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

I'm guessing a pimpinellifoliae don't know which one yet. Okay never mind thorns are not right or leaves. Your rose has unique leaves that should place it in a family of roses. There is a site called Everyrose.com. They have an advanced search feature. Type in everything that you know about this rose. You might get lucky.

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wolfgang_danninger

Thanks for the answers. I got seeds with no name of this rose from a garden society, The seeds were from northern Italy. I grow the rose in the east of Austria. The climate is zone 5, Vine is growing here. In most of the winters branches are frozen.

The rose looks tender, therefore I do not think that it is a rugosa. The biggest flowers are 4 cm in diameter. The flower has a little fragrant, It is a once year bloomer.

I know Pimpinellifolia quite well. My unknown rose has too differernt thorns and leaves. They do not smell like apples

I will try the site Everyrose

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Jeanne Huebner

Hi! My husband just bought me my first tree rose today for our 10 th anniversary. I'm in zone 4. I'm not at all sure on how to winterized it! I'm new to the tree rose but am loving it! I don't know weather to plant it in the ground, leave it in a nice pot and bring it int the house or outside in the garage. I'm hoping some one can help me save this rose for many years of blooming. My e- mail is soaringwings55@yahoo.com. Thanks Jeanne

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summersrhythm_z6a

Jeanine, Don't put your email address here for safety reason. The only rose trees can be planted in the garden is Polar Joy, a super hardy rose tree. Other than that you have to bring it in the garage during the winter, and water it once a month. You're in zone 4, you might need to wrap it around with a sleeping bag or something even in the garage.

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Donna R zone 6a

It's hard to believe, sometimes, what eats roses, until you see it with your own eyes. My double delight rose is setting buds and some are open. I couldn't figure out what was chewing rounded holes in a still developing bud, but then found the culprit a few days ago. Large black ants. Couldn't believe it. They must smell the rose and figure there is food up there.

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Donna R zone 6a

Does anyone know how to make the pepper spray? I have been using cayenne pepper powder on my petunias, as we have groundhogs that are decimating them and also my lettuce plants. I am at wits end with them-they eat a ton. When it rains, you have to reapply it-that's the downside of the powder.

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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

It's a bullhead, it happens when the temperatures get below 40 when the buds are forming. Some roses are more susceptible than others.

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jacquierz5bmi

Thank you Buford! I have never heard of that before so I'm glad it isn't some disease.

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Donna R zone 6a

Beautiful, Zack. Thank you for sharing with us! So very pretty.

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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

It is quite beautiful indeed. I love the roses against the fence, it is a classic!

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Marigold33

So pretty, will have to sit back and decide! I do gear towards orange given the choice!

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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

'Rio Samba' was a good rose but it faded badly to a muddy color--the sun is very bright here, so YMMV. 'Tuscan Sun' is quite good in that color range. But that is here--I have no idea what it is like in zone 6.

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jerijen(Zone 10)

We're seeing this, too. But it will get hot and dry eventually. What I dread is the Hot-Humid period coming up tomorrow.

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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

The hot-humid thing--it's not as bad as I expected. Suppose to be back to good old June-Gloom tomorrow.

It's been so dry for so many years I've forgotten about foliar diseases--perhaps this is a harbinger of the heavy El Nino winter we will get this year. Hey I can dream!

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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

I always get the RVR mystery roses, and the prevailing one a few years ago was Robin Hood. I checked hmf and both the dark pink and faded blooms are plausible with what was posted there. Of course, you know that I'm poor at rose ID, but I'll post a photo of mine from a few years back for comparison. In the ground, mine have really taken off as well as this one I put in the neighbor's yard (pardon the poor deadheading). They are definitely lanky and sprawly, but in these circumstances it fits.
Cynthia

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john_ca(CA US9/SSZ14)

I received a "mystery rose" from RVR a year ago that looks like this. After going through her online catalogue, my best guess is Lovely Fairy.

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Ann I've never thank you for writing your Rose Rosette E-book. I've perused it more than you would know. Incredibly helpful back in the day when few where saying anything at all and not any other good information out there. So much misinformation out there even today.

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kidhorn2

I've had good luck cutting out infected canes. I know what to look for and anything remotely suspicious gets cut. Better to lose a few blooms than an entire bush. If it shows up again or the infection is on more than one cane, the bush gets it.

I used to be surrounded by infected multiflora, but they built a highway and removed almost all the MF. I guess that's one good thing about the highway.

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ittayd

But the roses next to this one don't quill (at least, not that much)

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ittayd

So, the nursery that develops these roses replied to an email inquiry and said this rose is probably not Don Juan but Oklahoma, and I think it is not even a climber.

Looks like I'll need to uproot it...

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Streisand Fan

One more thing, it's actually spelled Barbra.. She took out the third "a" when she was just beginning in show business:)

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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

I agree with Brittie that the flowers flatten and lose petals in the heat. But I cut Babs in tight buds in Summer and she will slowly open in the vase and retain that classic high centered HT shape. She also flowers a lot in Summer. Wonderful! She is one of the few roses that I can actually smell any fragrance at all in high heat.

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alisonok

Thank-you for your responses! I am in Western NC and we are a Zone 6. We had a fairly mild winter last year and I haven't had any issues with my other roses. We did have a lot of rain which may have washed some of the soil away from the graft. It used to collect in the area where my climbing rose is until we put in a drain.

I think I will definitely pull it up. I am looking at replacing it with "New Dawn". I have heard it is a very vigorous climber and it has gorgeous blooms. I will look into S&W as well!
Alison

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towsonite

I know this was an old post, but I had the same exact thing happen with my Golden Showers. The top died during the 2014 winter, re-emerged but never bloomed in summer 2014, and now it's blooming in 2015. (i.e. no old wood that first year and kstrong was right on the money) Until I found the label showing the yellow rose, I thought I was going nuts when it bloomed maroon. I was smart enough to suspect it was the root stock but admittedly would have been one of those guys tending a Dr. Huey, which certainly doesn't seem to need any of my help the way its growing. Will bury the root stock in the future as suggested.

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

The Antique Rose Forum is very good at Austin roses try posting this over there.

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

When I first got my White Out many years ago it was introduced as a knockout. They dropped it as a knockout the following year. My White Outs are disease free. I love them. They are always in bloom for me and grow to about 3'x3' every year.

End of last season after several frosts

One of the new ones this year

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blueKYstream(6)

My Whiteout Rose blooms probably more than any other rose I have. It's a great "landscape rose" as many would say. It blooms well, but is not a showy flower or fragrant. It isn't technically a knock out rose. My whiteout faces northwest on a slight slope, so it doesn't get as much sun as it should ideally. It stays about 3' x 3'. My mom grows one and it gets maybe 3.5' x 3.5' and stays in a round bush shape for both of us. It does not blackspot, but gets a touch of PM here in KY for me. It certainly doesn't affect its flowering though. All of my roses this year have holes, which I suppose is caused by thrips. This rose is no exception. I lost it during the harsh winter two years ago. I planted another and it survived this past harsh winter with no protection.

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Beth zone 8a Dallas, TX

I have to agree with Jacqueline. I have both coral and red in pots that I bought in two gallon pots from a local nursery. Both are already 1.5' tall and 3' wide easily. I'm sure they will continue to get bigger in my climate. I had planned to put them in the front of a flower bed with a HT behind them but since my beds are only 4' deep I've decided that just won't work. I'm glad I bought them and put them in pots to see their growth pattern before putting them in the beds as a border. I would constantly pruning them to keep them off the walkway.

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rozilla(z9LA)

I've gotten probably 20 of various colors over the last 3 years, and they have done one of two things. They've either gotten far bigger than what you have in mind, or they just died for some unknown reason I've yet to figure out. Pretty little things but check out other options.

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