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I agree it needs a support to grow on, and I like your idea of planting it to grow on your fence. HMF says it is "climbing, spreading". Along with the comments above that it gets really large, I would think it would do well on your fence. Partial shade might cause it to not be so aggressive. Just make sure to tie the first long canes horizontally on the fence, and stand back.
Jackie
summersrhythm_z6a are you sure that the lack of blooms is due to midge? The stated period of bloom for that garden is June 15-September 30. Rugosas normally bloom earlier than other types (in my experience).
http://www.niagaraparks.com/niagara-falls-attractions/whats-in-bloom.html
Vasue, I was just going to post that. I have Pink Don Juan. HMF doesn't say it's a sport, but I would guess it is based on the way the bush looks and the blooms. The picture from Chamblees is not the right color. It is a deep hot pink. It also has a wonderful fragrance.
Chamblee's link above gives the history as "sport of Don Juan". Nelson's Roses lists their Catherine Nelson as a sport of Don Juan they discovered - first rose on the list - http://nelsonsfloridaroses.com/rose-varieties/pinks/.
I'd call them and see if they used to carry JACOB'S ROBE. With the slight striping on the edges, I'd bet that's got to be it. I just got it from Northland Rosarium, so maybe at some point I will be able to compare it for you. It's still pretty tiny tho. Might be awhile before I get any bloom on it.
You are of course correct - I think it depends on soil type, and mostly HUMIDITY. Here, in the summer we are so hot and dry that I have seen roses and other plants not die back, but just DIE completely, if the top growth is not substantially reduced, and lots of water given. We have clay soil also, but the air is so dry (unlike many parts of the country) - I think that is the problem. We do not (even when we are not having a drought) get any rain at all (truly) from May through October, so watering is essential. Thanks for reminding me that the answers to most questions on here totally depend on local conditions!
Jackie
I moved three floribundas in bloom in mid-June a year or two ago, and they did fine. I did not prune them back. I watched for sevl days of cloudy & cooler weather, prepared each new hole before digging up each bush , dug up as large a root ball as possible (we use three spades plus a big piece of plywood as our "transplanting board") (altho generally we get larger root balls when moving perennials than roses), watched daily for several weeks and watered at first sign of any wilting. I think I lost only one leaflet from one bush. Granted these were not particularly robust, having less than a huge amount of foliage to be supported by the root system.
Natural or stained fences (like yours) do well with roses in my experience. Painted ones are more of a problem. Leaves can hold a lot of moisture in a damp climate that will have trouble evaporating if right against the wood, and the wood reacts the same. Can lead to mildew on the fence & shorten its life. If you're in a dry climate, likely no worries. But for the health of both, it's more common to leave space between the plant & the fence. Seil's suggestion of a trellis set in front of the fence to allow for air circulations & support the rose is one solution. Here's a thread to illustrate - http://tinyurl.com/p6lw6bp - where you'll see the rose appears to climb the fence but actually does not. There are other methods with wires & spacers directly attached to the fence, loosely looped ties around branches & through the fence gaps or eye hooks screwed to the fence, or posts set in front of the fence with wire or trellis forming a free standing structure to support the rose. Nice fence! Nice rose! I'm sure they can live together happily & bring your vision to life. And I'm with Jackie in thinking your lovely yellow rose is Golden Showers. http://tinyurl.com/nddwe4r
Mssorkgirl: just so you know, several of my bare roots arrived from wayside with white mold. I think they packaged them on a Friday and they sat for the weekend in the heat before beginning their journey west to me. Plus the heat along the way, it's no surprise they would be moldy I guess. I did call wayside and get a partial refund which I'm happy with. I washed the roses and cut off the moldy parts. I think they will be okay.
Vasue: thanks for the info
Argh.
They said on their website they would send to Hawaii via air freight and charged additional 20 dollars to do so; instead they send it via UPS ground and now they're going city to city there like their on tour. Air would take have taken 3 days at the most ... right now it's scheduled to arrive a week and a half from when it was ordered.
Still crossing my fingers that it is worth it.
Depends. I've put large roses in i gallon pots, but I cut them back severely and also root pruned. They mist remain in a shady location and be monitored closely for drying out.
Question - do you mean thrive in permanently, or just for a little while?