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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Rideau Rose Lad has it. He posts sometimes on the Antique Rose Forum.

    Bookmark     April 10, 2015 at 8:50AM
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seil zone 6b MI

I do have several Buck roses and I love them. They have nice bushy growth habits and good repeat bloom. My favorite is Quietness and it's relatively healthy, very hardy and blooms all the time. I just think it needs to be pointed out that, as you said, they're not all created equal. Iobelle is a gorgeous rare Buck HT. It was a BS magnet and not very hardy to boot!

Others I have or had are Rural Rhythm, spotty and a wimpy grower, and Country Music, another spot magnet and poor grower. On the other hand Winter Sunset grows quite well and rarely spots for me. You just never know. Try Dakota Song out and see for yourself how it does. Then let us know because it's gorgeous!

    Bookmark     April 10, 2015 at 12:58PM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Honestly if I lived down by Chamblee's and some of the nurseries you have. I surely would not have a dime left to spend on food.

    Bookmark     April 10, 2015 at 7:26AM
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Beth zone 8a Dallas, TX

ruthz, all of my roses are in pots because our terrible black clay ground.

I placed an order with Chamblees to be picked up at a later date. I had planned on waiting to choose roses while we were at the nursery. The spring flush is several weeks late this year so we will be visiting the gardens later than we planned. It usually is the second week in April but they are saying the end of April or maybe the first of May for a good flush so we won't be at Chamblees until May and I was afraid they'd be selling out of things.

Then of course I might just find something else while I am there!

    Bookmark     April 10, 2015 at 9:21AM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Is that referring to a commercial rose growing situation

    Bookmark     April 9, 2015 at 10:28PM
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henry_kuska

I hope that westerners will be able to modify it (or use part of their solution such as the use of coir) for home use.

http://blogs.usda.gov/2015/04/10/in-the-west-preparing-for-uncertain-water-supply/

    Bookmark     April 10, 2015 at 9:20AM
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sam 4b Adirondacks

Layman's terms?

    Bookmark     April 10, 2015 at 6:02AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Spider mites were repelled and poisoned by alcohol extracts of spider plant, common stinging nettle, and chili pepper (each separately) when rose leaves were dipped in the solution. Cleome was most effective.

Note: it doesn't mean that growing the plants alongside roses will control spider mites on roses.

    Bookmark     April 10, 2015 at 6:56AM
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bethnorcal9

It's not exactly a show-type bloom. But it's pretty. (I don't exhibit)


    Bookmark     April 2, 2015 at 9:59PM Thanked by rosydreams
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rosydreams(10a SoCal sunset zone 19)

Hello, thank you. :)

I hope it does do better for you than it does for me, Seil.

Hmm, interesting Beth. Your blooms are much better looking than mine... That does give me some hope. The edge of the petals seem to curve out while mine stay cupped in, even in full sun. Maybe I just need to give it another year.

    Bookmark     April 9, 2015 at 11:45PM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

I'm happy you got some good answers. Hope they recover for you.

    Bookmark     April 8, 2015 at 8:36AM
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MaryAnn1950

I am happy to announce that Prof. Manners feels that it is herbicidal damage. I will just keep a close eye out on them and keep you posted. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH !!!!!

1 Like    Bookmark     April 9, 2015 at 5:40PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Thanks to both of you, my guess is, you are correct.

    Bookmark     April 9, 2015 at 5:36PM
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bluegirl_gw

the flower form & big leaves look very much like the ones I've seen.

Yes, baby roses are often quite different looking. And our first spring blooms are often a bit weird, too--I've got a Pink Poodle & a Rosette Delizy blooming with virtually white blooms--just a hint of blush. But the new buds are coloring out correctly.

    Bookmark     April 9, 2015 at 5:38PM
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ameri2nal

Livin easy is just as thorny

    Bookmark     April 9, 2015 at 5:21PM Thanked by Theresa McHarney
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Check Easy Does It out here:

Click on photos at the top of page for more pics:

http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.58853

    Bookmark     April 9, 2015 at 10:19AM Thanked by leah02
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mzstitch(Zone 7b South Carolina)

Leah I normally prune my Julia Childs right down to about two feet. Around August I start doing some severe deadheading instead of all over pruning. As flowers die instead of a normal short deadheading I take that particular cane down. i'm guessing no more than a foot. On some of my other roses that have canes like octopus arms I take them back by as much as three feet. This is just the way I've learned to keep my roses manageable without losing out on any blooms as the rest of the plant keeps giving me flowers.

    Bookmark     April 9, 2015 at 4:52PM Thanked by leah02
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toolbelt68(7)

I suggest you use pressure treated 1 x 4 or 1 x 6 inch boards. Cut the boards in 8 inch lengths then cut the corners off at one end of each board. Next dig a trench around the bed, inserts the boards vertically so that notched end and 5 inches or so are above ground. Back fill around the boards and you have a boarder that can easily be replaced, expanded, and/or relocated as needed.

    Bookmark     April 9, 2015 at 2:15PM
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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida 9a)

We make our chicken runs from 2x4 treated boards and they even rot here in the humidity in about 2 years. Bricks and cement blocks seem to last. Rebar seems to last. I have had several metal trellises rust rot and break. I just pulled the last one down last week. It was a large arch and was so cute and had a gate too but alas they all rust.

    Bookmark     April 9, 2015 at 2:33PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Looking at the photos on HMF there are several full plant shots from the Carolinas and California. The bush looks to get maybe 4 x 4 feet in those. That's about average for an HT.

    Bookmark     April 9, 2015 at 2:00PM
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farmerduck

I have one grafted on multiflor rootstock. I am in Z6b NJ. Extremely vigorous, about 6 feet tall 2 feet wide after 3 seassons, stiff, thorny cane, wonderful repeat and fragrance, wonderful blackspot resistance grown in a no-spary condition. One of the few HTs I have. All together a wonderful rose. Fairly winter hardy for a HB too, but it is probably a nonissue where you live.

    Bookmark     April 9, 2015 at 2:13PM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Edited. Just noticed you wrote Pink Cloud not Pink Clouds

    Bookmark     April 9, 2015 at 9:03AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Pink Cloud is a healthy grower and was, at one time, used as a root stock rose. It may only get 6 feet tall but I think it can spread much wider than that if not trellised in some way.

    Bookmark     April 9, 2015 at 1:37PM
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emily2002(8aFL)

thanks to all who took the time to help me. havent seen anymore canes on the ground so I'm beginning to think it was the wind. Yall are sooo smart.

    Bookmark     April 9, 2015 at 11:37AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

The brown is probably from being below grade, where stem bark gives way to root bark.

    Bookmark     April 9, 2015 at 11:55AM
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summersrhythm_z6a

I use Miracle Gro, it works! :-)

    Bookmark     April 7, 2015 at 8:30PM
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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

Most "regular" fertilizers like Miracle Gro or any generic 10-10-10 pellets will add nitrogen and food for the rose. I go with about a 1/2 cup per well-established rose (don't feed new rose plantings), away from the base of the rose and under mulch or scratched into the soil, more if you have large or heavy feeding roses or highly porous/sandy soil (I think). You don't have to have anything specially formulated for roses, since roses can't read (smile), but you want to watch not overdosing the phosphorus in most garden soils. If I'm adding a standard fertilizer, I usually add a good handful or two of alfalfa hay (purchased from feed stores or pet stores in the small animal sections, if you only have a few roses). The alfalfa seems to add something extra in addition to the nitrogen that promotes healthy branching out. Special rose formulations of fertilizer usually have alfalfa already in them, but they're also a lot more expensive. None of the feeding is strictly speaking necessary if you have healthy soil and you're happy with the roses, but the food adds a little "zing" to the blooming. Just don't feed too often, as Diane mentioned, or you can get a lot of green growth at the expense of flowers. Once in the spring and maybe mid-summer if I feel like it is usually plenty for me. The liquid fertilizers like Ken mentions can be used more often, but at a weak dilution. Me, I'm too lazy for feeding that often as many roses as I have.

Cynthia

    Bookmark     April 9, 2015 at 11:52AM
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comtessedelacouche (10b S.Australia: hotdryMedclimate)

I know they're meant to be scented, but does anyone with knowledge of the old California roses think this could be Santa Rosa OR Burbank?? (Bit of a wild guess, but after all, it must be SOMETHING!) Are you in California, Emily, by any chance, or do you know where your SIL got her plant from? Is the deeper colour always there or does it develop only at certain times of year? And just another Q it might be as well to check - can you normally smell roses? Pardon my asking; it's just that it's not unusual for different people to not be able to detect certain rose scents (particularly teas, but others too) - and it might make our job a bit easier if this were a scented rose!

If and whenever you're able to post photos, clear pics of both mature leaf sets and new growth, canes, prickles, buds at different stages, stipules and a whole mature plant shot might all help get us there. I wonder whether those canes on the left are hoping to get to that fence and climb...

Comtesse :¬)

    Bookmark     April 9, 2015 at 2:54AM
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emily2002(8aFL)

1st pic shows several stems starting to grow above the original shot of this rose. 2nd pic (I hope) shows new growth and old growth. 3rd pic shows 2 stages of opening and one old bloom. I did pay close attention to the fragrance and yes, there is a slight fragrance. Hope this helps, I do appreciate your in-depth remarks, this forum is wonderful! By the way, I am located in North Florida, zone 8.

    Bookmark     April 9, 2015 at 11:33AM
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