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Vasue, I was just going to post that. I have Pink Don Juan. HMF doesn't say it's a sport, but I would guess it is based on the way the bush looks and the blooms. The picture from Chamblees is not the right color. It is a deep hot pink. It also has a wonderful fragrance.

Chamblee's link above gives the history as "sport of Don Juan". Nelson's Roses lists their Catherine Nelson as a sport of Don Juan they discovered - first rose on the list - http://nelsonsfloridaroses.com/rose-varieties/pinks/.

Thanks Jasmine, I am wondering if it might work out for my north facing garden. They are not that common around these parts, but if the pictures online are any indication, it certainly looks like a rose worth searching for!

I thought it funny that my own root Night Owl was taller than my friend's budded one that she got around the same time. This rose could be rootstock.

I'd call them and see if they used to carry JACOB'S ROBE. With the slight striping on the edges, I'd bet that's got to be it. I just got it from Northland Rosarium, so maybe at some point I will be able to compare it for you. It's still pretty tiny tho. Might be awhile before I get any bloom on it.

I sent them an e-mail. I'll let you guys know what I hear back. :)

That's normal for older leaves but if newer leaves look like that then it needs more water and less fertilizer, fertilizer(salt) burn can also look like that.

That makes sense, given our water restrictions. Thanks.

As Ascot hits his stride, I'll have to add him to my list, just behind PAOK. Diane

Oops, forgot Royal Bonica (sport of Bonica). That one is hitting its stride this year, too. A bloom machine. Diane

You are of course correct - I think it depends on soil type, and mostly HUMIDITY. Here, in the summer we are so hot and dry that I have seen roses and other plants not die back, but just DIE completely, if the top growth is not substantially reduced, and lots of water given. We have clay soil also, but the air is so dry (unlike many parts of the country) - I think that is the problem. We do not (even when we are not having a drought) get any rain at all (truly) from May through October, so watering is essential. Thanks for reminding me that the answers to most questions on here totally depend on local conditions!

Jackie

I moved three floribundas in bloom in mid-June a year or two ago, and they did fine. I did not prune them back. I watched for sevl days of cloudy & cooler weather, prepared each new hole before digging up each bush , dug up as large a root ball as possible (we use three spades plus a big piece of plywood as our "transplanting board") (altho generally we get larger root balls when moving perennials than roses), watched daily for several weeks and watered at first sign of any wilting. I think I lost only one leaflet from one bush. Granted these were not particularly robust, having less than a huge amount of foliage to be supported by the root system.

I haven't grown any climbers yet, but I found the Paul Zimmerman videos on youtube to be helpful. I plan on trying climbers in my new garden.

Natural or stained fences (like yours) do well with roses in my experience. Painted ones are more of a problem. Leaves can hold a lot of moisture in a damp climate that will have trouble evaporating if right against the wood, and the wood reacts the same. Can lead to mildew on the fence & shorten its life. If you're in a dry climate, likely no worries. But for the health of both, it's more common to leave space between the plant & the fence. Seil's suggestion of a trellis set in front of the fence to allow for air circulations & support the rose is one solution. Here's a thread to illustrate - http://tinyurl.com/p6lw6bp - where you'll see the rose appears to climb the fence but actually does not. There are other methods with wires & spacers directly attached to the fence, loosely looped ties around branches & through the fence gaps or eye hooks screwed to the fence, or posts set in front of the fence with wire or trellis forming a free standing structure to support the rose. Nice fence! Nice rose! I'm sure they can live together happily & bring your vision to life. And I'm with Jackie in thinking your lovely yellow rose is Golden Showers. http://tinyurl.com/nddwe4r

Oh so pretty. Thank you!

Now in retrospect - it balls from the rain way too frequently. But when Betty is on a roll - she's awesome!!!

Carol

I just posted the question on the antiques forum

http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/3127679/two-root-sock-questions

Mssorkgirl: just so you know, several of my bare roots arrived from wayside with white mold. I think they packaged them on a Friday and they sat for the weekend in the heat before beginning their journey west to me. Plus the heat along the way, it's no surprise they would be moldy I guess. I did call wayside and get a partial refund which I'm happy with. I washed the roses and cut off the moldy parts. I think they will be okay.

Vasue: thanks for the info

Argh.

They said on their website they would send to Hawaii via air freight and charged additional 20 dollars to do so; instead they send it via UPS ground and now they're going city to city there like their on tour. Air would take have taken 3 days at the most ... right now it's scheduled to arrive a week and a half from when it was ordered.

Still crossing my fingers that it is worth it.

Shrub, climber...they're the same. Austin likes to confuse people. I have several Evelyns, and I treat them as shrubs. Mine have stiff canes, so I can't see them as climbers at all. Diane

I grew Evelyn for probably 8 years or so. She would grow tall (about 5--6 feet tall). Blooms were sporadic after the first flush. She was in HOT, direct sun all day and had the reflected sun of a white fence behind her. Finally pulled her when she reverted back to rootstock. Loved her blooms. Scent to die for. Really only got good flushes when the weather was cooler. I miss her but have such a small place, I need roses that rebloom more often.

I can't see c;early, but if two leaflets are stuck together with webbing, there is a larva inside the leaf sandwich that feeds on rose leaves. It would likely be a Rose Leaf Tier. Squish 'im.

It's hard to tell from that photo, What color is your rose? White or pale pink or yellow?

In my earlier post I meant to say I didn't know WHY I wasn't getting blooms. I was all too aware of the lack of flowers!!!

You might just have what are called blind shoots. That's when the terminal leaf set just ends and doesn't grow a bloom. Just snip the tips back from the end leaf set down to the next one and wait and see if the new growth produces a bloom.

Dr. Huey got dug up and discarded this evening. I felt guilty doing it, since it is a living thing. But I don't have room in my small rose garden for roses like this. Thanks for everyone's answers.

Don't feel guilty, Donna, he was an interloper! But I know how you feel. I do the same thing when I shovel prune anything, even the Dr., lol! With my bad winters I figure anything that can survive deserves a chance. I'm getting better about it but I still look for good homes for my living cast offs.