22,795 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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jacqueline9CA

You are of course correct - I think it depends on soil type, and mostly HUMIDITY. Here, in the summer we are so hot and dry that I have seen roses and other plants not die back, but just DIE completely, if the top growth is not substantially reduced, and lots of water given. We have clay soil also, but the air is so dry (unlike many parts of the country) - I think that is the problem. We do not (even when we are not having a drought) get any rain at all (truly) from May through October, so watering is essential. Thanks for reminding me that the answers to most questions on here totally depend on local conditions!

Jackie

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ellatiarella(SW Mich 6a)

I moved three floribundas in bloom in mid-June a year or two ago, and they did fine. I did not prune them back. I watched for sevl days of cloudy & cooler weather, prepared each new hole before digging up each bush , dug up as large a root ball as possible (we use three spades plus a big piece of plywood as our "transplanting board") (altho generally we get larger root balls when moving perennials than roses), watched daily for several weeks and watered at first sign of any wilting. I think I lost only one leaflet from one bush. Granted these were not particularly robust, having less than a huge amount of foliage to be supported by the root system.

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reesepbuttercup 7a- Utah

I haven't grown any climbers yet, but I found the Paul Zimmerman videos on youtube to be helpful. I plan on trying climbers in my new garden.

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vasue VA(7A Charlottesville)

Natural or stained fences (like yours) do well with roses in my experience. Painted ones are more of a problem. Leaves can hold a lot of moisture in a damp climate that will have trouble evaporating if right against the wood, and the wood reacts the same. Can lead to mildew on the fence & shorten its life. If you're in a dry climate, likely no worries. But for the health of both, it's more common to leave space between the plant & the fence. Seil's suggestion of a trellis set in front of the fence to allow for air circulations & support the rose is one solution. Here's a thread to illustrate - http://tinyurl.com/p6lw6bp - where you'll see the rose appears to climb the fence but actually does not. There are other methods with wires & spacers directly attached to the fence, loosely looped ties around branches & through the fence gaps or eye hooks screwed to the fence, or posts set in front of the fence with wire or trellis forming a free standing structure to support the rose. Nice fence! Nice rose! I'm sure they can live together happily & bring your vision to life. And I'm with Jackie in thinking your lovely yellow rose is Golden Showers. http://tinyurl.com/nddwe4r

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msdorkgirl(11)

Oh so pretty. Thank you!

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rosecanadian

Now in retrospect - it balls from the rain way too frequently. But when Betty is on a roll - she's awesome!!!

Carol

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amanda

I just posted the question on the antiques forum

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reesepbuttercup 7a- Utah

Mssorkgirl: just so you know, several of my bare roots arrived from wayside with white mold. I think they packaged them on a Friday and they sat for the weekend in the heat before beginning their journey west to me. Plus the heat along the way, it's no surprise they would be moldy I guess. I did call wayside and get a partial refund which I'm happy with. I washed the roses and cut off the moldy parts. I think they will be okay.

Vasue: thanks for the info

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msdorkgirl(11)

Argh.

They said on their website they would send to Hawaii via air freight and charged additional 20 dollars to do so; instead they send it via UPS ground and now they're going city to city there like their on tour. Air would take have taken 3 days at the most ... right now it's scheduled to arrive a week and a half from when it was ordered.

Still crossing my fingers that it is worth it.

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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Shrub, climber...they're the same. Austin likes to confuse people. I have several Evelyns, and I treat them as shrubs. Mine have stiff canes, so I can't see them as climbers at all. Diane

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mustbnuts zone 9 sunset 9

I grew Evelyn for probably 8 years or so. She would grow tall (about 5--6 feet tall). Blooms were sporadic after the first flush. She was in HOT, direct sun all day and had the reflected sun of a white fence behind her. Finally pulled her when she reverted back to rootstock. Loved her blooms. Scent to die for. Really only got good flushes when the weather was cooler. I miss her but have such a small place, I need roses that rebloom more often.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

I can't see c;early, but if two leaflets are stuck together with webbing, there is a larva inside the leaf sandwich that feeds on rose leaves. It would likely be a Rose Leaf Tier. Squish 'im.

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seil zone 6b MI

It's hard to tell from that photo, What color is your rose? White or pale pink or yellow?

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bonny46(6)
In my earlier post I meant to say I didn't know WHY I wasn't getting blooms. I was all too aware of the lack of flowers!!!
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seil zone 6b MI

You might just have what are called blind shoots. That's when the terminal leaf set just ends and doesn't grow a bloom. Just snip the tips back from the end leaf set down to the next one and wait and see if the new growth produces a bloom.

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Donna R zone 6a

Dr. Huey got dug up and discarded this evening. I felt guilty doing it, since it is a living thing. But I don't have room in my small rose garden for roses like this. Thanks for everyone's answers.

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seil zone 6b MI

Don't feel guilty, Donna, he was an interloper! But I know how you feel. I do the same thing when I shovel prune anything, even the Dr., lol! With my bad winters I figure anything that can survive deserves a chance. I'm getting better about it but I still look for good homes for my living cast offs.

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Dingo2001 - Z5 Chicagoland(5)

I would cut off the dark tips. Cut them all back a little - to a bud on the outside if you can.

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seil zone 6b MI

The dark tips are just a little bit of die back from pruning and storage. If you look carefully you'll usually see that it has died back to the top bud eye on the cane. The rose can't grow from anything above that top bud eye so it stops feeding it and it dies off. Just snip it back to about a 1/4 inch above the bud eye and it should be fine.

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AJ (6A)

They are from Brecks. So if I bury the graft there will be very little plant out of the soil. Is that normal?

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seil zone 6b MI

Yes, that's grafted. Don't worry, just plant them a little deep to protect the graft from winter. They will still sprout and grow. Some people actually mound up soil around the canes to start with to keep them moist. The plants still sprout through the soil.

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nikthegreek(9b/10a E of Athens, Greece)

Cut off any white growth more than an inch long. These have grown in dark conditions. New proper shoots will take their place.

PS. Just saw that Seil above said the same thing. That should teach me to read previous posts before commenting.

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summersrhythm_z6a

I have planted over 130 bare root roses right into the garden this Spring, just planted 10 of them last night. It's not too hot yet in my zone 6a by the Great Lakes here, today's high is in the 70's, tomorrow will be 81. I water them every night after work, no problems at all. Good luck with yours! :-)

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Katie

The name is quite funny! They could have named it Wine & Cheese.

Haven't grown it, but have seen it for sale, quite a dramatic rose. I'm not fond of red roses in general though with the exception of Mr. Lincoln, due to the fragrance.

Thanks to all who posted photos!

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jasminerose4u, California 9b

I saw two plants of Ketchup and Mustard in an open, no-spray garden home and absolutely everyone stopped to admire them. I took this shot of a ladybug (beetle). It wasn't the best example of a bloom, but that is why the ladybug was there.

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noseometer...7A...ABQ

Perfect question for National Donut Day today.

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rosecanadian

Oh come on!!! What a coincendence!! :) LOL

National Donut Day and this question gets asked. How weird and wonderful!

Carol

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Brittie - La Porte, TX 9a

Woo! Some beauties in this thread! Doris Day is super cute. I didn't grab her from brecks because I reasoned that I didn't need another yellow. Naturally though after seeing her I'm having some mild regrets. Lol

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kentucky_rose zone 6

KarenPA,, Thanks for all the detailed info and pics. I was wanting Smokin' Hot and Miss Congeniality, but resisted and now glad that I did.

Th

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