6,340 Garden Web Discussions | Growing from Seed

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gardenman101(Z6 Spingfield, Ma)

Well i dont know if thats what he/she wanted to hear. What i got was freshness, not whats new. Most seed companies sell only fresh seed that is no more then 1-2 years old insuring maximum germination. There are a few places that sell older seed, that would most likely be heirlooms that were grown out within say the last 10 years and seeds saved. The germination would be lower but the reason they do this is so that others can grow out that paticular hierloom and then in turn offer fresh seed.

    Bookmark     November 27, 2012 at 12:00PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Hmmm no reply from the OP so we can only assume but I agree that the question was about fresh seed not new varieties. At least that was my interpretation.

If one had to have "fresh" seeds each year to have a successful garden then there would be little use for all the seed banks and seed vaults around the world nor for all the info available on how to properly store seeds for multiple year use.

Dave

    Bookmark     November 28, 2012 at 11:35PM
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mccommas(z5CT)

They need lots of sun and warmth. You can't start them outside in early spring. Maybe half a day of sun would be OK.

    Bookmark     November 21, 2012 at 8:57PM
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gardenman101(Z6 Spingfield, Ma)

Im going to have to say you wernt getting enough sun. That area looks kinda dark to me. Does it get any brighter then that and if so how much does it get full sun (1 hour 2, etc) Morning Glorys are a sun loving flower, and if the got leggy its becuase you could not provide enough sunlight.

    Bookmark     November 27, 2012 at 11:55AM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

Tomatoes will germinate in a cow patty or a compost pile. Providing anything special for tomatoes is a waste. Al

    Bookmark     November 27, 2012 at 9:16AM
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mccommas(z5CT)

I did not even know that they did flower. I bookmarked the page so keep us updated bro.

    Bookmark     November 25, 2012 at 8:29PM
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mccommas(z5CT)

I just yahooed "Poinsettia flowers". I always thought the red flowers were just leaves!

-- learn something new every day....

    Bookmark     November 25, 2012 at 8:32PM
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yiorges-z5il

The craked nut will germinate IF!!!!!!!!
1 given a 2 month treatment at 70F THEN a 2 month treatment at 40F......THEN......
Lightly cover the seedsoil temp 65-75F for 30-60 days
Reeamber the sexes are seporate & will take ABOUT 25 years to flower the first time

    Bookmark     November 18, 2012 at 6:04PM
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HelloPandaNF(Zone Five)

Okay, that's a relief...

Thanks

    Bookmark     November 22, 2012 at 3:12PM
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flora_uk(SW UK 8/9)

Any plant which produces pods is designed by nature to spread its seed by the pod bursting open. It will not do this until the seed is properly ripe. So you need to watch the pods until they are dry and on the point of opening naturally to get the ripest seed. For your Koelreuteria (I assume, rather than Laburnum) the seed has already been dispersed by the tree, so that would be the best to gather. Unless, of course it has dropped some substandard seed prematurely or the seed has been lying around a while in poor conditions. In which case maybe wait for the nice fat looking pods still on the tree to mature and then get them as soon as they fall.

    Bookmark     November 21, 2012 at 2:18PM
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RetiredFlorida(9)

Thanks Flora, I kinda had that feeling after I sat, peeling open too many pods that I "took" off the tree. All the seeds were green and then I thought, that would be awful to offer someone seeds that were not viable. I just googled the tree again and saw a photo of the "ripe" seeds, being black.

Darren

    Bookmark     November 21, 2012 at 8:25PM
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terrene(5b MA)

I am a "seed person" too! Here's a few examples of great pleasures for me:

- Enjoying the numerous assorted seedlings that sprout in mature gardens

- stumbling on little seedling "surprises"

- Seeing the first green seed leaves show up!

- Appreciating the genetic diversity amongst your seedlings, some are taller, some shorter, some plants bloom earlier than others

- Finding an interesting or unique seedling and anticipating what it could mature into!

- Collecting seed on a mild and sunny September or October out in the wild, and enjoying the company of the birds or an occasional late season butterfly

- collecting extra and sharing seeds with others

- scattering a little native seed, such as common milkweed Asclepias syriaca along wild field edges, hoping to cultivate more Monarch habitat!

And there are many more, too numerous to list!

    Bookmark     November 18, 2012 at 6:40PM
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bugbite(z9a FL)

Terrene,
Wonderful post. I could visualize and enjoy each point you made.
Thanks!

    Bookmark     November 18, 2012 at 9:35PM
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albert_135(Sunset 2 or 3)

Scratch the seed with a nail file before soaking.

    Bookmark     November 8, 2012 at 3:40PM
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susanzone5(z5NY)

I grow them every year just by planting them in potting mix, about an inch deep.

    Bookmark     November 17, 2012 at 5:59PM
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kayjones(Mo6b)

This is a great site - THANKS for the link - here's a clickable link to the site!

Here is a link that might be useful: Tutorial on germinating different seeds

    Bookmark     November 16, 2012 at 8:49AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

In other words regardless of source, are all Better Boy F1 seeds created equal?

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With that particular variety since it is well stabilized, likely so since the seeds from all the common hybrids are usually purchased by the reputable commercial suppliers from just a few grower sources and then re-sold to the public. Of course that would not be the case if you buy from individual sellers (IE: those on ebay, amazon, etc.) so you need to stick with reputable vendors.

But that is NOT true for all varieties. There are literally 100's of hybrid varieties where the quality all depends on the source of the seed.

You can find any number of discussions about reputable dealers and non-reputable seed dealers discussed on the Growing Tomatoes forum here. My personal preferences are tomatogrowers.com and tomatofest.com

Dave

    Bookmark     November 2, 2012 at 7:31PM
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bugbite(z9a FL)

Hmm, I never heard of F1s being limited to certain growers.
Patented cuttings are limited to licensed growers.
They pay a royalty per cutting, which will be rooted and grown to a plant.
The royalty in a F1 seed is paid in the price of each seed.
The objective is to sell a lot of seeds, and that includes to the public.

Here is a link that might be useful: random seed page

    Bookmark     November 14, 2012 at 11:10PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

A Z4 winter will give them more cold than they need but you could try winter sowing them. Approx 2-3 months at 35-40F before bringing back to about 70F should help in germination. But the fruit from any vines resulting could be variable and not have all the characteristics of the grapes the seeds were taken from.

    Bookmark     November 6, 2012 at 11:48AM
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yiorges-z5il

give it a try THEN let usknow what happons

    Bookmark     November 3, 2012 at 5:38PM
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marricgardens

I tried them and the 'seeds' just rotted. There are still babies growing on the top of the stalk so I am trying to root several of those, so far so good. Marg

    Bookmark     November 6, 2012 at 8:42AM
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yiorges-z5il

Thanks

    Bookmark     November 3, 2012 at 5:36PM
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jonathanchuang1

Ah, the seller said that they'll send some soil that the original plant was grown in along with the seeds.

    Bookmark     November 1, 2012 at 1:32AM
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PrairieDock

In that case it'll probably have the fungus, give it a try!

    Bookmark     November 2, 2012 at 8:49AM
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