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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

A Z4 winter will give them more cold than they need but you could try winter sowing them. Approx 2-3 months at 35-40F before bringing back to about 70F should help in germination. But the fruit from any vines resulting could be variable and not have all the characteristics of the grapes the seeds were taken from.

    Bookmark     November 6, 2012 at 11:48AM
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yiorges-z5il

give it a try THEN let usknow what happons

    Bookmark     November 3, 2012 at 5:38PM
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marricgardens

I tried them and the 'seeds' just rotted. There are still babies growing on the top of the stalk so I am trying to root several of those, so far so good. Marg

    Bookmark     November 6, 2012 at 8:42AM
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yiorges-z5il

Thanks

    Bookmark     November 3, 2012 at 5:36PM
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jonathanchuang1

Ah, the seller said that they'll send some soil that the original plant was grown in along with the seeds.

    Bookmark     November 1, 2012 at 1:32AM
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PrairieDock

In that case it'll probably have the fungus, give it a try!

    Bookmark     November 2, 2012 at 8:49AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Your expectations of how long germination is going to take needs an adjustment - aconitum from dried commercial seed takes patience. And when some germination does take place, it can be erratic, meaning not all seedlings will appear at the same time - they may be days, or weeks apart.

Self sown by the plants, the seeds would be exposed to warm (relatively speaking) Fall rains, then a cold moist winter, to germinate close to Spring when temps begin to warm again.
As monkshood from commerical seed can be difficult, sometimes best to try copying mother nature.

You can do that by giving the seeds a warm moist period of 2-4 weeks, moving to 40F for 6 weeks, then bringing back to warm.

    Bookmark     November 1, 2012 at 12:48PM
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NemJones(5)

Morz8, thanks for the help, but I do know they have differing periods of germination. I had atleast 3 sets sitting in 30-40
F temperature for 3-4 weeks, and still waiting for germination. I do know they have different temp ranges.. so I guess keep on waiting..

    Bookmark     November 1, 2012 at 4:16PM
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terrene(5b MA)

Poppies also seriously resent any root disturbance; in my experience you can transplant but only when very tiny (cotyledon stage or so) and then you must be careful not to disturb roots.

My poppies have always done best via direct sowing in late winter/early spring.

    Bookmark     October 20, 2012 at 7:34PM
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NemJones(5)

In my experience, DO NOT EVER plant those "bio degradable"
peat pots or jiffy pots. Very nice starter pots, but they stunt the poor plants. Had some tomatoes like this. One was 2-3 feet bigger than its partner. I dug up the small one, and it was instantly apparent that the peat pot had stunted it.

My recommendation, (IF YOU CAN)cut the fabric off the peat moss, and leave the moss intact. find a place in the yard or a suitable pot, and repot. Dont disturb the seedlings roots.

    Bookmark     October 31, 2012 at 4:17PM
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susanzone5(z5NY)

take apart a seedhead and see how far developed the seeds are. if they look dark and well developed, then you can cut them off and dry them on a paper plate indoors for a few days.

    Bookmark     October 28, 2012 at 10:23AM
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yiorges-z5il

If the pod is green then the chanches of the seed being ripe is slim
I always delay collection untill the pod open up & starts to show the seed

    Bookmark     October 25, 2012 at 1:30PM
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rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7

The pods should turn brown and crack open. In other words, they have to ripen on the plant like other seeds. Caster bean seeds are readily available by mail order. There are some really neat varieties.

    Bookmark     October 25, 2012 at 5:54PM
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lizatgar

Thank you nil13! My bank is about 8-10 feet tall, and the run of the hill is 15-20 feet. 100% slopes would be completely vertical - can't imagine that! Thanks for your suggestion, I'm wondering if the mulch is easy to maintain. Do I need to add mulch every year, and keep weeding? Since it is a large area, it will cost a lot of money and work to mulch and weed. That is why I was thinking about an "aggressive" ground cover to control weeds.

Also, do you have any idea how much the mulch and plugs will cost including labor? I'm totally new to gardening and have no idea...

    Bookmark     October 18, 2012 at 9:23AM
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nil13(z21 L.A., CA (Mt. Washington))

A 100% slope is actually 1:1 or a 45deg slope, but I have donned my rappelling gear and planted on vertical faces.

Yes, the mulch will have to be replenished from time to time. I wish I could tell you how often but there are some variables. I also can't tell you costs because I don't know about either your plant or labor market. You can also get mulch for cheap or free from tree trimmers and some municipalities offer free composted mulch from green bins. You will also have to weed regardless, but the mulch makes it easier.

Aggressive groundcover can itself become a weed, especially if it self sows. Plus, weeds are by their nature aggressive and can compete with a lot of aggressive groundcovers, at least for a little while. When I say shrubs, they can be groundcovers as well. They are just low growing shrubs. You can also mulch heavily (8-12") and sow perennial shrub seed. That is a proven restoration technique, although weeds will still come up.
Since you are new to gardening, I will recommend this site, The Informed Gardener, especialy the bits about mulch.

    Bookmark     October 18, 2012 at 12:04PM
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rachelthepoet(7)

Thanks for everything, Flora! I'll figure it out. This geranium only cost 40 cents, and I've enjoyed it for 6 months, so it more than earned its keep! I might still try the cuttings/overwintering as an experiment.

    Bookmark     October 15, 2012 at 6:10PM
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flora_uk(SW UK 8/9)

Good luck!

    Bookmark     October 16, 2012 at 8:18AM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

I have been successful germinating the seed, but did not put in the time and effort needed to grow them to bloom to see what I might have achieved. Dirr's "Reference Manual of Woody Plant Propagation" does provide some seed starting information of roses. However it points out how erratic the various roses are, and tends to discourage most of us from the exercise. Al

    Bookmark     October 15, 2012 at 9:54AM
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flora_uk(SW UK 8/9)

BTW - you do know that any seedlings you get are unlikely to produce flowers that look like the parents, don't you?

If you really want to replicate the roses you have grown fond of exactly,you need to take cuttings or learn about grafting/budding.

    Bookmark     October 15, 2012 at 1:01PM
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threas(z7 PA)

Hlily ,
Did it bloom?

Theresa

    Bookmark     November 19, 2008 at 7:35AM
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dorne

I wish you had carried on with this thread as ive just ordered some seed.

    Bookmark     October 13, 2012 at 1:40AM
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yiorges-z5il

The problem may be its not getting polinated by insects.
Try hand polinating the flowers.

    Bookmark     October 12, 2012 at 8:57AM
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yiorges-z5il

Yes & they are producing fruit now.... Will soon be able to enjoy this years crop!

    Bookmark     October 12, 2012 at 8:54AM
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